>Back Squat >suffer debilitating lower back pain for days >Deadlift >suffer debilitating lower back pain for days >Front Squat >lower back feels amazing
I've already thrown out Back Squats in favor or Front Squats for this very reason, so is there any reason why I can't just get rid of Deadlifts now, and just focus entirely on Front Squats and Front Squats alone for my lower body compound exercise?
>b-but you'll get muscle imbalance from just doing Front Squats!
Is that actually true? Surely it's just broscience, how can you get muscle imbalance from just Front Squatting?
Maybe you can do cleans which are also light front squats
Gavin Davis
Only CrossFit fags care about front squats, and only because it relates to Olympic lifts such as squat cleans.
You want to work your legs muscles? Do the powerlifting, jackass
Christian Green
your upper back and hips are weak
Henry Roberts
>"only crossfitfags"
>non-athlete in hs/college detected
Not true. The most fun compound lift should be enjoyed by all.
James Perez
I can do 15 chinups at 90kg b/w and I can front squat 120kg x 8-10
Isn't that using upper back?
Owen Wilson
Front squats are a meme
Carter Perez
>Is that actually true? Surely it's just broscience, how can you get muscle imbalance from just Front Squatting?
Absolutely not.
Picking exercises that don't aggravate any pain you might have is an intelligent strategy.
If back squats are important to you you should keep training them at intensities or ROMs that don't aggravate the pain.
Have you experimented with both high bar and low bar? Or making your squats more knee dominant instead of hip?
Which types of these three things?
is it all three, or all of them on conjunction. A lot of people have trouble squatting after deadlifting, or rowing and squats/deadlift in the same session and is completely normal.
Cleans will not develop the same attributes as squats of any variant.
Consider suicide.
Christopher Rivera
post form is probs right though weak hips->knee cave->butt wink->back pain
Luis Martin
Serious question: how the fuck do you do front squats without breaking your wrists? It looks extremely painful and unnatural. I get more squeamish looking as pictures of people doing front squats than watching ISIS beheading. Is it something you have to be double jointed for? I don't get it. It looks fucking horrifying.
Lucas Robinson
>Skipping deadlifts Front squats focus much less on the whole posterior chain, so if you're replacing back squats with them, make sure you do deadlifts or some variant (i.e SLDL or RDL)
Cameron Wood
Everyone has pain, you probably lift with your ego and shit form.
Plenty of powerlifters do only front squats during deadlift blocks since it’s a more quad dominant movement and involves less back. No you will not get imbalances.
Matthew Diaz
It's all 3 of them. Yes I have gone through periods of time where I only do 1 at a time, in order to try find which caused me issues, and I found its all 3.
I have been just Front Squatting 3 times per week for the last few months, today I decided to Deadlift, and low and behold the back pain came back again.
I got meme'd into doing Deadlifts again by Jow Forums because people said I'll get muscle imbalance if I only Front Squat for lower body and that i NEED to deadlift. Funny how I have zero pain when just doing Front Squats, but pain comes the moment I Deadlift again.
Where can I get a serious answer? I don't give a fuck about powerlifting min-maxing and I dont give a fuck about bodybuilding min-maxing, im just trying to train my legs with a compound exercise, and Front Squats are the only one I can do that doesn't cause me problems.
Luis Nguyen
>Is that actually true? Surely it's just broscience, how can you get muscle imbalance from just Front Squatting?
Bilateral leg work will develop muscle imbalances for a lot of lifters for BS, FS, Clean...you name it. The muscles used to balance are used less when both legs are involved. The solution is pretty large volumes of unilateral leg work and/or exercises to specifically target lagging support muscles. e.g., leg extensions of the medial quad for poor knee tracking due to overdeveloped lateral quads, or lateral band walks for runner's knee issues.
Cooper Rogers
You just need to get more mobile in the lats and wrist. Doing rack negatives and archups/hanging from a pull-up bar should Help
Landon Hall
Why would you do leg extensions if you already have over-developed quads?
Blake Hernandez
you are not able to keep your upper back in the correct postion. Im telling you i just figured this shit out after 5 years of lifting. Start with romainan deadlifts then stiff leged. you are pulling with your back but its more of a hip hinge
Lincoln Young
High bar squats are the answer. My back has never bothered me doing high bar.
Theres an alternative grip that is crossarmed. I find it more comfy.
Eli Rivera
RDls like the other anons said.
Juan Reed
>High bar squats are the answer. My back has never bothered me doing high bar.
OP here.
I use to Squat 160kg x 5 on high-bar back squats 4 years ago.
Something happened to my back one-day 4 years back and ever since then my Back Squats have regressed all the way down to 40kg.
Even now the pain comes with 40kg Back Squats, and even just 60kg Deadlifts. But I can Front Squat 120kg x 8-10 without any problems, in-fact I feel good after Front Squatting.
Cooper Williams
>I got meme'd into doing Deadlifts again by Jow Forums because people said I'll get muscle imbalance if I only Front Squat for lower body and that i NEED to deadlift.
What possible mechanism could cause this?
What are the symptoms?
How can you prove the symptoms (if any) are caused by this?
You didn't really take advice from someone on Jow Forums did you??
Amazing you can diagnose this without so much as seeing a video of the lift.
No shortage of people injuring themselves doing high bar and switching to low bar.
Parker Long
Go to a gym with a reverse hyper. It's not the same thing as a back hyperextension. It looks like a trebuchet.
You could also just learn to do single leg deadlifts. It reduces the weight on your back but still works your glutes and hamstrings as if it were a heavy weight.
Wyatt Rogers
Wtf I don't feel sore at all after gym.
Cameron Lopez
How can I do single leg DL's at home? I just have power-rack,barbell,bands, etc.
The quad isn't just one big slab of meat. The lateral quad can pull your knee out of alignment. The way to stop this is to have your inner quad (VMO) pull with more force by making it stronger.
Dominic Lewis
Get an olympic DB sleeve and put two 25s on it?
Christian Howard
Front squats are great. When I snapped up my back a while ago, I wasn't able to backsquat without pain for a pretty long time. But a week after snapping I was able to start front squatting and adding weight no problem.
Aiden Perez
I can't do traditional grip due to shitty shoulders so I do crossed. That might help you.
Andrew Morgan
front squat should be the only squat you should do bcuz u get all the posterior chain from deadlifts assuming u do them
Logan Jenkins
i still get slight back discomfort even with front squats. i'm very angry about it and on the verge of canceling my gym membership and just swimming (which also will probably just end up giving me back problems). jfl.
