How come this guy on the right pic doesn't look ripped despite being such a low bodyfat percentage...

How come this guy on the right pic doesn't look ripped despite being such a low bodyfat percentage? You're telling me he's fat and needs to cut even more? There's almost nothing to him. He'll look like twig if he cuts anymore.

I don't look like this guy i am bigger and higher bf but i'm curious why some guys don't look cut and ripped despite being very low bf. He looks like he has some muscle at least so why does he look bad?

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there is a difference between low weight and low body fat percentage

>How come this guy on the right pic doesn't look ripped despite being such a low bodyfat percentage
Because he's not.

"Ripped" is 6-8% body fat. It is emaciated and unhealthy. He looks better than 90% of guys at his current ~12% body fat, and doesn't need to cut even if he feasibly could.

He doesn't have that much muscle? Isn't it obvious

Muscle. He lacks the muscle to look muscular

lanklet syndrome, too tall to build muscles.

That's still around 12 percent? Jesus? What does a legit "ripped" natty guy look like then?

This guy in the pic looks the same bodyfat as the one in the OP yet he looks clearly and obviously ripped compared to the OP guy.

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amazing face gains

No because you see homeless bums and heroin addicts who never lifted once yet still look clearly ripped and wiry.

Like this. Note the deep vascularity and striations. Fat is practically nonexistent in people who are ripped.

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Another ripped man.

Like I said. It's emaciated and unhealthy. Nobody who just wants to look good shirtless needs to get ripped.

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So i guess the term is simply overused then? and used incorrectly. Look at this guy in the pic he claims 7-8 percent and i don't see anyone challenging it. People just seem to regard guys like this as "ripped" and use it as a fleeting term.

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8% isn't a bad estimation for this one nor is it an unhealthy or unrealistic goal. He's lean, just not bodybuilder show lean.

The guy in your OP lacks this guy's deep definition and vascularity, so he's more likely 10-12%.

Can I get an estimate?

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that's because they're usually on literal fucking steroid therapy

I like it for a realistic goal too. Assuming he is 8%, how easy would it be to maintain this look year around?

>imagine roiding and getting gyno for this

Because he literally has more muscle you fucking retard. His muscles are bulging out even though they are the same bodyfat percentage.
Also, muscles make you more vascular because they push up veins against the skin

12-14% bf

Did you just pull that number out of your ass?

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no
you asked for a number and you got it

11-12 percent

Not easy at all without gear. You would need to follow a very strict training and nutrition program with absolute consistency to maintain 8% body fat, and that's not counting all the cutting and bulking cycles you'd need to attain that level of muscularity.

I respectfully disagree, the op's pic on the right looks leaner and more well defined. He would be well served by a tan and better lighting.
Both are at 10% or just under. Well done to both.

7 point calibers say 9%, given the inaccuracy of these you saying I'm 14% bodyfat seems like a pulled out of your ass number.
Post body.

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10% is my guess. It is hard to go by pics because you may have a strange bf distribution and be not as lean in other places. Looks good though.

No way is this 9 percent. It's about 14-15

I'm 11 percent (pic related) and you don't even look as lean as me

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Looks under 10% to me, but because you are obviously an insecure faggot I'm going to call it 15%.

Sorry about your arms. Can't win 'em all.

god tier pecs

Ah, that majestic African IQ comes into play.
You have a lot more mass than I do, so the effect of bodyfat on you is entirely different.
I'm sure you knew this, and were merely pretending to be retarded.

I would roid for this, desu.

What's wrong with his arms?

Give cycle info plz. You look terrific.

They are tiny. His forearms are proportionate, but there is no mass on upper arms. Good bone structure probably highlights it too. Wide back with nothing really coming out of it. Dude would likely look good if he roided hard. His bicept insertions would still be fucked but he could look decent.

Dude looks great. Why would he cut?

My arms are too damn long coupled with a shitty high insertion same for calves
Dw I am roiding within two months or so, I have nothing to prove by taking longer and being natural

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hes larping as giganiga you retards

Small frame, low fat but also low muscle. He will never look ripped with that little muscle, .

how the fuck did your face change?

your face is a literal 1/10 and goes to 8/10

Jesus I know this sounds like the answer is obvious but why do men have such shit taste in male bodies.

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This is the normie ideal.