/fraud/ steroids and anti-natty action general

>cheating
funny because i say cheating in the olympics/sports to get an edge and win is one thing.. but everyone on stage in bodybuilding is cheating. really makes you think about the hypocrisy of it all..

THE TRIPFAGGOTS ARE GONE
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THE CURSE HAS BEEN LIFTED

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Anyone know why test is the go to compound? I've done a couple of cycles years ago but after losing 14 kg due to a long period of illness im planning another to cut down the time getting back.

However in the past I've just done Test E but from what i can read things like dbol are anabolic without as much sides. What's the story?

petrichor

your body naturally produces test.. more test is better.. exo test is pushing that envelope to its limits.. dbol is an oral anabolic and will always be second rate to an injection.

But is that second rate in terms of anabolic effect or health? I know orals aren't great for the liver.

both.

Right guess its test again. Cheers.

Just a quick question: what needle length do you guys use and where do you inject?

My options are 22G with 1.5 - 2 inch length or 25G with 1 inch length
Is 1 inch sufficient for glutes?

You'll want much bigger than that. Specialist 4 inch 18G for a braphog such as yourself.

22-1.5

I have small waist and hips but my ass is oversized that's why I asked. Should I just play it safe and go with 2 inches. Is it gonna be more painful than 1 inch?
How does 22G treat you? Is it a pain in the ass, a slight pain or ant bite tier?

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Dude just get 25 gauge, 1 inch
Assuming youre not bloatmaxxing, its fine for anywhere. Best option is backloading slin pins, but 25s are fine for twice a week pinning

can i pin delts with a 27G 0.5inch?

Goddamn, finally

Is it required for a needle used for drawing to be dull? I can buy 18G dull needles at my source but they are about 3 times as expensive as 18G sharp needles.

>dull needle for drawing
no, you want the needle to be able to penetrate the membran of the vial

Use a sharp needle
Dull ones, especially 18g (use 21) can fuck up the rubber stopper on your vial, with pieces of it ending up in your oil. Not too good

the go to is 25.. ive never used 22

just exhale and stab like your throwing a dart

Thanks. I'll use 21G then. Still deciding over whether I should take 2 inch 22G or 1 inch 25G I'm going to have to compare my ass with people on Youtube I guess.

Yeah I heard this tip before. I don't have a fear of needles just I don't want to be in excruciating pain

the reddit wiki contains information about needles. link is in the OP

you wont be.. a slight discomfort at most.

>21G
thats a fucking spear my man

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you dont use a tap drill to blast grams user?

I meant 21G for drawing silly. For pinning glutes most people say 1 inch is fine, other say you absolutely need atleast 1.5 inch unless you are super ripped. I'm still on my epic quest to find the right needle if you want to help, take my hand and come along.

25-1.5 only way to go. unless your stage ready body fat levels.. because you know you got that junk in your trunk!

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Yeah for whatever retarded reason my needle source doesn't sell 25G at anything longer than 1 inch. I will find a new one but if you can help please send a link. Source talk for needles and syringes is allowed here afaik

anyone pinned quads before? does it hurt?

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well you can look online for that user.. you dont need a source.. where are you located?

>25-1.5
You are out of your fucking mind fat boy.

I use 5/8 everywhere and never have a problem with sub q leaks and I sit at 12% and 14% when bulking.

I am looking online for it now. I just refer source as the site where I'm going to order them from. The Netherlands btw

now eeeear diis

Yes
No (t really)
Only do the outer quad (vastus lateralis). I can hit a nerve sometimes and my leg wikl twitch which is kinda funny. Just pull out and move a bit before going in.
Subq leaks are terrible though, especially with short esters. Feels like it runs all the way down to my knee and hurts like a bitch

You are retarded. That’s why

30mg is nothing for a male except shutting down your natural test production for a few months.

Anavar is metabolized in the KIDNEYS you stupid fuckhead

Post your body if you think you aren’t deserving of this criticism.

can confirm sub q pain is real and is to be avoided at all costs

post ass unironically

Can any one here yellowpill me on Winstrol?

Use during a cut only? Or can it be run on its own to add lean gains?

so with no subq leak, quads dont hurt right?

i have only done glutes and delts before.

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this guy always looks photoshopped - look at that pec dec .. daaaaamn

no hes the real deal lmfao go check out his instagram. his name is chul soon or something. walks around south korea mogging everyone

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oh i know.. hes insane.. looks like an asian arnold

you don't get into the glutes with a 5/8

maybe hes flex lewis backstage at a event shitposting on /fraud/

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Okay guys I've searched pretty much every online needle shop in my country and none of them have 25G in a length higher than 25mm (1 inch). Wtf? Do they even make them that long on 25G?

1 inch is enough for glutes idiot. if 1 inch isnt enough for your fucking glutes you're probably 30% bf, and should not be fucking pinning

you should be ok with 1 inch if your lean

I'm lean but I have a Brazillian and squishy ass. If I squeeze the upper right area (injection site) I can hold an inch of skin between my thumb and index finger

every guide for newfrens recommends 1 - 1.5 for glutes

Because test is vital for your bodily functions. Other compunds destroy your test production without fullfilling the role of test

I would go for the 22g 1.5inch absolutley. The best i think is 23g 30mm

Can I draw two different compounds with the same needle?

yes. insert air into vial, draw compound, pull back plunger, insert air into second, draw. stab

Change the drawing needle unless you are begging for scarring and infections

Thanks for you concern friend.
Most places I read it says it does not shutdown your HPTA.
And I'm not worried since I'm taking a low dose anyway.

god, arnie was so aesthetic. I really wish bodybuilding was still about aesthetics and not just heaviest mass.

i think shawn roden brought it back to a nice place this year

can i use existing body fat to build muscle?

even better, will gear help me achieve this? keep in mind that i will be on a 200 calorie deficit every day.

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no.

waste of gear

130$ for 15 weeks of test good?
Obv no pct included

Is it real

Seconded
If you can't afford enough needles you're too poor for steroids

my blood work came back with 1.44 mg/dl creatinine levels

are my kidneys fucked?

Bit expensive, test is usually $25-35 a vial.

>be 45
>never used steroids
>never been a gym guy
>have seizure one day
>get CT done have 3 spinal compression fractures
Does taking steroids make you feel good overall in your day to day routine? I'm asking because I hope to get some relief from feeling like crap every day. I know this sounds dumb, but I'm looking for hope. The muscles around my spine are constantly hurting and I hope steroids would help strengthen them up.

not like opioids will

Yes. You should jump on test only size. Between 400 mg to 600 mg for 12 weeks then keep using it at low dosages like 150 mg to 230 mg.

At least 16 weeks, 20 preferably.

weight isn’t going down AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Left test, winstrol, mast, tren

Right hgh insulin dbol deca

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Opioids don't do anything but make my head feel weird and make me fall asleep. I don't why/how people get addicted to that crappy feeling.
That sounds good. I guess my other problem is finding them. I'm not a gym person so just walking in one and asking a random guy to hook me up is scary. When you say test only, do you mean Tren? I've read that stuff is harsh on your body.

also left out of this assessment is time.

we dont talk about sources here.. but trust me its not that hard to find.. look for forums online that allow that type of talk and you should be all set..

read the wiki brother.. its got a lot of info about the different compounds and slang etc

Ok. Thanks for the info. I'm in a quandry, I need to strengthen my back but exercising hurts. It sucks.

check out the mesorx forums for exercise routines

no. listen to your doctor and do what he says. if it's really a muscle problem you should even be going through rehab

>recommending someone who doesn't lift to start bncing after a seizure and spine injury
this is literally the dumbest post in the history of /fraud/

He is a senior citizen. His test levels are lower than usual and he wants to feel better. Testosterone is all he needs.

>this is literally the dumbest post in the history of /fraud/
must have missed the testiFy cringefest

This happened over a year ago. I have compression fractures that will not heal unless I have an expensive surgery that won't guarantee it will heal. Rehab and even the chiropractor hasn't helped. My only solution is strengthen up the muscle surrounding the fractures. Doctors won't prescribe what I am asking for info about here.
My test levels are in the normal range for my age. I had that checked about 4 months ago. It's at nearly 6 mg/Nl

trolling about someone's health is not funny you edgy 13 year old

are you even cleared to work out by your doctor? I don't know how you'd possibly work those muscles without risking even more injuries. steroids won't help you, if the doctors say you need the surgery, you need the surgery.

I am cleared for work. Everyday I risk more injury. I know and understand this. My doctor is someone I went to school with, played baseball together as kids (small town) and he told me the surgeries may not help with the pain and discomfort. They will just inject a type of cement into the spine to keep it from compressing. My muscles are weak around the area and I need to keep them strong. I asked my question because from what I hear about steroids I think they would help with my problem.

I asked whether you are cleared to WORK OUT

steroids will not strengthen your muscles by themselves, you would still need to work out and it's likely that you would simply fuck yourself up even more.

digits confirm. check back exercises on mesorx forums. be well user

Sorry, I missed the out part. I have never asked that. Doing my everyday job, stuff around the house I know what my limitations are. I can't run, I can speed walk tho. I can lift heavy things, I struggle and pay for it later. Don't steroids have a healing property to them? I'm not a retard and think just taking them I will magically become super strong and huge. I am just hoping they will offer me a relief.

Thanks, heading there now for some education

>Don't steroids have a healing property to them?
they do not.