SOCIAL GAINS

Rolling for pushups sknce there’s no thread

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I think I might have super high functioning autism. I work retail and can interact with people, but I don't have sny friends, and dont do anything after work.

Music doesn't woo ladies, your looks do. You could be Ryan Gosling playing twinkle twinkle and ladies would be ovulating for you, or be me and no one gives a damn. Plus, I'm not a guitarist, I can't lug around a keyboard everywhere like guitarists can

>read some post where user gave the tip that you should have the mindset that your life is your own adventure, where every available NPC won't mind / would like to hear what you have to say, no matter how trivial
>used it lately
>mfw making social gains on literally skyrim dialogue options

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Can you provide random examples so I know what you mean?

sure user, like today at a class
>doing pair exercise with a stranger
>"Have you heard of [Teacher] turning ill? I hope he recovers soon."
>"Uh yeah, we still have homework for his classes though."
>conversation actually continues somehow
only example that came to mind because it was so recent. basically, think of everyone else as a npc that can/should respond in some way to anything you say - just, obviously, say sensible relative things.
Talking about getting food? Just say "I really like X-food", no one's gonna care in the long run, but they'll remember you said something. Talking about school? Just say literally any tiny fact you can add to the discussion or exercise.

Underage

I've been practicing this, it's literally the only way I can get through my depression

Normies get extremely sensitive about things that they can actually change, because it reflects on their lack of agency.

unironically play keytar. art girls would be into that.

honestly youre probably just pretentious as fuck

>>start talking to people
done
>>actually stop giving a fuck
done
>>enjoy having a laugh with them
cringe
>>stop taking yourself so seriously
cant
i did all of them and i only got a "cool/chill dude" vibe from girls, i talk to them and then i stop giving a fuck about them since it takes too long to get a date from them when i text

wish i was like that

>start talking to people
>actually stop giving a fuck
>enjoy having a laugh with them
>realize i have no social skills and that i'm basically retarded
>weird them out

that's how it usually goes for me. doesn't get better either. maybe i actually am 'tism.

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>actually start to not give a fuck
>start to lose even more friends and is even more of a sperg now

Help.

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Dude as an objective Chad myself, your talents are Fucking sweet!! No lie friends worth having would love that

Lmao all I do is learn languages and collect stamps. Because I'm passionate about both people like hearing about it. You can say your hobbies are lame all you want but if your passionate about them people will respect you.

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>start talking to people
>dont give a fuck
>you are a dick to people for no reason
>nobody likes you
why do i do this???

oh yeah, i do that too. i think it's because i'm bad at reading social queues and manipulating a situation for a favorable outcome. ideally i wouldn't even be thinking about manipulating anyone but i guess i can't help it.

When I was working construction, everyone was a piece of shit and yet all of us had fun.
>mate, give me the paint
>I'll drop it on your fuckin head, ya inbred piece of shit, bother someone else
>oy, I'm gonna make you a new asshole if you keep that up
>come and try getting a piece of my fat cock mate
>everyone laughs, go for beers after work, get shitfaced, repeat the next day
Good times.
You pussies need to grow a backbone.

smile and have always something to say

there you go

your post is so insightless, i bet you write inspirational instagram quotes.

here’s why nobody here is gonna understand your advice
>>start talking to people
every retard here is still stuck in the middle school-tier “how do i into le smalltalk?” mindset of self-defeatism. what anons should be working on is getting the confidence to talk about whatever the fuck they want to whoever they want
>>actually stop giving a fuck
impossible, people here cling to the desire to be right in every conversation/argument way too hard to ever empathize with normies
>>enjoy having a laugh with them
see above
>>stop taking yourself so seriously
see above
you need to keep in mind that at least half of everyone here has some kind of actual disorder that legitimately cripples their social abilities, whether it’s aspergers or NPD or schizoid or whatever.

>skinny manlet dyel version of me that hangs around one of my friends
>me and my friend always talk shit to each other, he always pipes in to make fun of me along with my friend. But he also lives in the room next to me and whenever my friend isn’t around this little shit is dead quiet, head down, doing his best to avoid me. Saw him in the school gym once and dropped a silent fart next to him. Gave him a big grin. Never saw him in there again

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You are an objective sperg. How do you have so little insight?

the thing people don't get is when someone gives you shit you have to give it back within the first 2-3 times. If you don't you are either considered a beta or you're just expected to keep shrugging it off. Eventually when you blow up it makes you look like a retard because your reaction is super outside the mode of behavior.

why

it's literally that simple.

Fatasses are the quickest to shit-talk people, but for some reason you're the bad guy if you call them out on their disgusting physique caused entirely by their own character flaw.

currently 27, havent had friends in a decade, khv. its been the same story my entire life

>always been the weird guy with ADD
>always can easily make people laugh
>years of isolation make me an angry bitter miserable guy but still make people laugh easily but just no one wants to be friends
>people call me "quick witted" an that i should be a stand up comedian
>people will tease me about stuff, im fine wtih it and joke about since im self deprecating, then if i tease them suddenly im an asshole

oh well. honestly it may sound crazy but i honestly think ive just lived in the wrong area for my personality. lived in the bay area all my life and the way i am and sense of humor seems like i would have been fine socially if i lived in say the northeast, specifically boston

You lack passion

I build and program computer keyboards as a hobby and people are genuinely interested when I tell them. It doesn't matter how geeky/nerdy something is, if you are passionate then people will show an interest. If they don't, they were never worth your time in the first place.

because some people (especially the Jow Forums demographic) struggle with developing the energy it takes to be the type of person to ''always have something to say''. and without that it is quite the impossibility.
it's the same as telling a depressive person to just ''stop being sad lol''. factually not false advice but maybe not getting the point across.

Didn’t make much social gains but i made confidence ones. Feels great to stride to and from the shower naked in the locker room, while everyone else is either shyly towel wrapped or a nude old person.

>If they don't

they don't. dunno where to find people that enjoy listening to my interests but i don't know any. shit, even my gf just tends to roll her eyes when i talk about my interests.

I feel like this is a situation that can only happen among friends who know each other REALLY well if you live in the US. It might work differently in Europe, and it even worked differently here in the States back in the 80s and 90s, but these days, things are way beyond just politically charged. Blacks and whites, women and men, christians and islamists... every single meaningless divide in the country has been amped up to the level where you're always one offhand remark away from losing your job. You might not get shot over it, though someone may clock you one, but you will lose your livelihood for saying something about X Group or Y Sexuality, and that's pretty serious.

Banter is for people who don't have to work for a living. So is freedom of speech, apparently.

t. Burger

>what anons should be working on is getting the confidence to talk about whatever the fuck they want to whoever they want

What if there's nothing I really want to talk about with the person?

Women don't really appreciate culture, user
But this is something that other cultured fellas enjoys. It's just like being good at sports: women don't give a fuck about sports, but if other people appreciate and recognize what you do, you start to be perceived as having high status, wich the ladies do appreciate.
If cultured people appreciate your music, then the uncultured chicks and bois will perceive you as high status. Or do you think most of the dumb hoes who date local scene musicians actually care about music??

THIS
I have i friends who makes anyone listens to him talking about some boring biomedicine stuff for ages, he's very passionate about it so people get genuinelly interested on it.

You're right that music does not woo women for the most part. But looks don't either.
What matters to women most is status. In nature, you can be a pretty boy, but if you aren't the leader of your group then it still confers zero evolutionary advantage for your children. And hence no one wants to fuck you.
By being the leader in the room, you make the panties wet.

bro i live in boston and you’d be fine. we’re all cunts here.

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exactly, i live in like the complete opposite of boston. honestly feel if i grew up there instead i would have ended up fine socially

nah carpenter here, I work with a bunch of mexicans and whites, everyone banters with each other in good fun
the soft soi bois who cant handle the bantz dont last long in this industry

>fatty keeps talking shit
>call him a fat fuck to his face
>fatty btfo
heh, works every time.

Yeah bro we’re all kind of niggers here, not kidding. We’re mostly white but we have a snarky conceited attitude and you grow up being heckled ruthlessly by your peers. We have our share of normal city upper class hipsters obv, like anywhere, but still. Non-whites are pretty similar in culture too if they arent first gen. I think its the cold and the machismo culture from Irish/Italiah untermensch

lol being good at chess and piano is cool. you're personality is probably just shit.

>First day at a sales job today
>Cold calls for hours

Shit brehs. I feel like an obese guy going to the gym for the first time, the desire to quit and all. I need the sales experience to get anywhere I want to go in almost every part of my life.

Shit brehs

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With my close friends I am hyper, energetic, and a funny memer. Theyre normies too. Why can’t I be myself around their friends or people? Fuck man

I dunno, I'm pretty passionate about it, I love music, been doing it for 15 years and still improving and learning new stuff. I can talk about music I like and how it's constructed, how my compositions are built, music theory, how cool work is, etc. Only my guy friends find it kinda cool to listen to some stories, but girls dont really ever care. I think what I lack is capturing their attention to begin with - if they like you, like my friends do, listening to something I can talk about in depth is just cool insight to something they aren't specialized in. But again, I'm 5'9, average-ugly looking, not rich or famous, nothing to stand out with. I work to try to be more appealing, but honestly I don't know what more I can do. I'd like to improve my attitude and be a better speaker tho

>spend 4 years drinking alone in my room
>become fat bloated alcoholic mess that has completely given up on life
>terrible self esteem and can't talk to anyone
>shrink prescribes me a bunch of meds but get scared about turning into a zombie by taking them
>eventually get fed up and change life
>quit drinking and start going to the gym
>everyone there is judgemental stacys and aggressive meatheads
>become a regular at the gym after awhile
>start losing weight and gaining muscle
>start to feel confident
>decide to talk to some of the other regulars
>find out they're not as judgemental or aggressive towards me as I thought they would be
>communicative skills increase
>decide to pursue small business
>getting by with some highs and lows with it right now
>at a better place now overall

And it all started by going to the gym. We're gonna make it bros (:

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nice user

You’re gonna make it man

>fat bloated alcoholic
>afraid of meds turning you into a zombie

I'm glad you're doing better, user, but it still might be worth getting mental health care even if your symptoms aren't as severe as alcoholism.

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most people, I try to talk to or they talk to me, it's almost 99% I feel bad 'vibes' from them for lack of better vocabulary, just as you start talking to someone they start spiting some of their poison, talking ill of other people,etc..
I'm not saint either but I don't engage in bullshit, I want to surround myself with kind and open people because I remember highschool having fun with this english teacher she really lit me up and I saw a happy side of me I didn't know.
I know this guy that works at a graveyard we talk sometimes just basic convos but hes kind hearted.
just want a truly good friend to be a good friend to in exchange

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The only one stopping you is yourself. You'll make it brah.

Eyes on the prize hoss

The root of my issues is my addictive personality. It wasn't necessarily alcoholism. I bury myself with things that can help me such as work and going to the gym to help me treat it. I don't believe my depression is that bad to warrant anti-depressants.

It would be nice to meet someone and date tho

>have no idea how to socialise
>be a cunt to people
>wahhhh they can’t take a joke!

same, ive just decided to be good to people regardless and try to ignite that same light within others, i still have no friends but im happy

I can't I'm socially retarded and all I can think about is the race war

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same but I always remember I'm a loser and I have no career and wont have and probably going to live a life of no skill wageslaving because i just cant learn anything to make money off so I get real fucking sad, I keep trying everyday after a refelection but make no progress.

I'm in my 30s, haven't really had friends in a long time. I'm not sure how people go about it at this point.
Since even if you look at normies they tend to get into a marriage or LTR at this point and bleed off their friends.
Have you ever heard of post-college men significantly adding to their friend pool?

>Women don't really appreciate culture, user
fren you really have been meeting some shitty women

Super weird but interesting. I've tried this but I can't continue the conversation. I get the response and then I blank out and just say filler stuff