SO HERE IS THE BLOODY THING ABOUT CARBS, THEY REPRESENT CHAOS, IN FACT THEY ARE AN AGENT OF CHAOS, AND IN CONTRAST...

SO HERE IS THE BLOODY THING ABOUT CARBS, THEY REPRESENT CHAOS, IN FACT THEY ARE AN AGENT OF CHAOS, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE PROTEIN

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Should have said fat instead of protein IMO since fat and carbs are both energy sources

Try harder next time

hate this hack

Everyone gives him shit for his endorsement of a carnivore diet but he specifically said not to take his word as gospel and to be careful about elimination diets. He said that it worked for him because of a metabolic disease he (and his daughter to a greater extent) have when eating a normal diet, and that it absolutely is not optimal for everyone

he eats cooked beef and doesn't have a patreon account tho

But for real, look what cutting carbs did for this guys facial aesthetics.

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>look what a calorie deficit did to a guy with an autoimmune disorder
FTFY

Can't deny he looks a lot healthier. I'm sure having a lower BF% alone would do that but maybe there's some reason to his rhyme.

Goddamn can't get enough of what losing weight to this guys face.

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Rogan says (yeah, I know) that he eats meat like an animal. Still, people on keto tend to eat less because of protein and satiety

everything is an energy source ya mongoloid

Really? Guess I'll go eat dirt then for that dirty bulk.

too bad you said protein and not dirt RETARD

welcome to the own zone
population: you

welcome to the bone zone
population: ur mum

Fugg xD

So, about my shit... it's so messy and well, thinking about it, you know. It took me like three months non stop to figure this shit out. You look at it and you could say pretty confidently, just fuck my shit up. That's actually an instantation of a patriarchal mode of being, isn't it. It's like that's the typification of an anal figure that exists at the bottom of all dominance hierarchies. You know, when Alexander Solzhenitsyn was in the gulags, his cell was very often messy and the postmodernist Marxist fascist system fucked his shit up a lot.

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heh... once again youve proven your stupidity

i have two dads idiot

pretty weak lurk more

topkek.

BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MUCH PROTEIN, BECAUSE TOO MUCH PROTEIN IS TYRANNICAL, AND YOU CAN BLOODY GUESS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DIETARY IDEOLOGUES WHO SAY CARBS ARE SUB-OPTIMAL AND PROTEIN IS ALL THAT MATTERS, WELL LETS JUST SAY STAGE IV KIDNEY FAILURE IS SUB-OPTIMAL TOO BUDDY

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U faggots obsessing over carbs and fats are all dumb dyel fatties

his hairline grew back

Laudible wheeze

lmao
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Honestly what was his reasoning behind keeping all that clutter

>hair transplant
>supposedly went 28 days without sleep
>claimed meme diet would already have caused major problems
He's as fake as it gets.

maybe the fact that his life was in shambles at that point

(((Juden Peterstein)))

They were renovating a room

He makes about 200k$ a month and is a public figure. You think he wouldn't go for a 10-20k$ hair transplant?
Please.

audibly keked. well done boys.

>hack

t. academics who die happy if they can match even 5% of the sheer volume of Peterson's published and widely-cited research, and dream sometimes at night about getting the same teaching accolades he collected while teaching Maps of Meaning.

remember to drink your vinegar before bed user

kek

Been trying to read his book for nearly a year. It's good but somewhat common sense. Great if you're starting out on improving yourself.

But he's really bad when it comes to seeking the TRUTH. There are some subjects he won't touch, which means he's not a philosopher or revolutionary. He is a pawn with no interest in being a prophet. HE COULD CHANGE THE WORLD but instead he just makes money. Not only do I not trust that but I look down on it.

These "ideas" people peddle their wares with the hope on some minor improvement in society. But they're scared of trying to really change something. They don't want to ruffle feathers enough that they'd be jailed or killed, else they can't enjoy their money.

They are weak and false prophets.

Incorrect
His hairline grew back after he saved his father from the belly of the dragon monster as a revard for slaying him.

I wish he'd write more stuff like maps of meaning. I don't care for self-help shit but I like his studies into psychology

I watched most of that lecture series but never read the book. It's an AMAZING series which in part brought back my faith through a broader understanding of Mankind.

He changed around last year. When he kicked Faith Goldy out of that conference I knew it was over.

The fact that 12 Rules is about revivifying oft-neglected basics instead of being lofty and "revolutionary" is the entire point you undergrad neanderthal. His idea that only reliable people who've already taken getting the simple things in life right seriously can be trusted with "changing the world" in the first place isn't some complacent and pacifying cash-grab, it's a carefully-considered position derived from a review of the history of just how ugly "revolutions" can get when they're undertaken by bitter and dysfunctional emotional cripples.

he's pretty good in his own field of psychology. eloquent, well-read etc. His research methodology is sometimes questionable, but well, those are social sciences for ya'. in others areas he's a total hack and a bullshitter.

>Should have said fat instead of protein IMO since fat and carbs are both energy sources

>not understanding fat adaption

way too much malevolence in this thread. god no

Back in 2016 when I discovered him I thought that his views could correct a lot of people's paths so that there would be no need for a big sweeping change. Ever since the feminist takeover in 2012-2014 I thought that it could be reversed. Now though things have so accelerated that we're on the cusp of losing all freedom and any hope of a functioning society at all. We'll be like China tomorrow if we're not careful.

So really I think his ideas came too late. They needed to take hold in 2001 when things started slipping as the GenX'ers with shit Boomer parents grew up and started ruining things. Zoomers might recover but they're all over the place.

We're at the point where we get a revolution of idiots like China/Russia, or a revolution of Patriots like America, or God willing we get a Napoleon or Augustus Caesar to bring us to heights we've only read about. It won't be pretty in the transition but there is no avoiding the plunge anymore. Get Jow Forums and be prepared.

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Friendly reminder that peterson is a hack and if you need his advice you've already lost

>When he kicked a literal white nationalist out of that conference I knew it was over.
Yikes

THEN SOME MAY ASK THE QUESTION, "WELL WHAT ABOUT FAT?" WHICH IS A BLOODY GOOD QUESTION. IT'S ARGUABLY THE BIGGEST QUESTION THERE IS. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY "FAT." IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT FAT HAS SOME ARCHETYPAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THE CONVERSATION, OTHERWISE OBESITY WOULDN'T EXIST, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN AT WHAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS FAT COMES INTO PLAY. WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION, "DO I BELIEVE IN FAT? . . . WELL . . . LETS JUST SAY I BEHAVE AS IF FAT EXISTS.

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The value of ideas is how they hold up to scrutiny and that's it. If an idea is so heinous it can't be heard, then it has some kind of value that can't be known.

Faith Goldy is a Catholic Greek-Canadian who used to work for a Jewish-Canadian so to call her a white nationalist is dubious. She was blacklisted because she took an interview with the Dailystormer on the same day that she took an interview with an Israeli newspaper because people wanted to know what happened at a White Nationalist rally that she was REPORTING on. If this logic were used with everyone then Oprah supports doping because she interviewed Lance Armstrong.

Faith is also Jow Forums as can be. Not her biggest supporter but I'll take her over Peterson's soft, doughy fan-boys like you.

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I don't know how you guys can take this guy seriously with his voice. He's literally Kermit.

I love this guy. I bought the book too.

Can any of you fags who call him a hack explain to me exactly what's wrong with what he says? I've only listened to some podcasts and interviews he's done and it seems like his message is a positive one, even if it seems obvious to the intellectuals here on Jow Forums, it isn't to most young men.

he doesnt call out jews, thats it

ROUGHTLY SPEAKING

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YOU SEE PEOPLE HAVE THIS IDEA THAT A PARTICULAR MODE OF LIFTING IS MOST OPTIMAL. SURE YOU CAN SQUAT EVERYDAY LIKE A CLASSICAL RIPPIAN BUT IT AINT GONNA AMOUNT TO MUCH IF YOUR BODY RESEMBLES A T-REX. SO THEN YOU GOTTA ASK YOURSELF "WELL HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO GAIN IN STRENGTH BEFORE THE SIGHT OF MY THUNDER THIGHS MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A FAGGOT?". OKAY... OKAY... SO THEN YOU DELVE INTO A BIT OF ZYZZ. SURE THATS EASY. GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF AESTHETICS AND THE PROBLEM SOLVES ITSELF RIGHT? ... UH WRONG! NO JUST A BIT WRONG BUT DEAD WRONG. GOD THAT IS SO NAIVE. LETS JUST SAY A COCKTAIL OF NARCISSISM AND PARTY DRUGS LEADS TO A CARDIAC ARRYTHMIA IN A THAILAND SAUNA. NOT SO SMART BUDDY? OKAY... SO NOW YOU GOTTA ASK YOURSELF WHATS MORE THAN STRENGTH, WHATS MORE THAN AESTHETIC AND MIRES. ITS BEEN STARING US RIGHT IN THE FACE. HOW ABOUT THE BLOODY NAME OF THE BOARD? FITNESS. GOD ITS SO OBVIOUS. SCOOBY HAS BEEN SAYING IT FOR BLOODY YEARS. GOD IT TOOK ME SO BLOODY LONG TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE THE PERFECT FITIZEN IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS HIS FEET IN BALANCE BETWEEN BOTH STRENGTH, AESTHETICS AND HEALTH. SO NO I WONT RECCOMEND YOUR BLOODY STARTING STRENGTH AND I WONT BE RECOMMENDING YOUR BRO SPLIT EITHER. AND THATS THAT!

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Fuck America and good riddance.

He is reactionary Oprah for failson whiteboys.
Take away the generic self-help shit and you're left with simply another reactionary peddling reactionary nonsense such as his defense of hierarchies and muh "it's natural" fallacies.

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Great thread! Keep it up JBP of great dietary advice and guidance

GOD IT JUST...*VOICE CRACKS* IT JUST BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE ALL THESE YOUNG MEN COME ONTO FIT AND POST THEIR BODYS IN A CBT THREAD AND THEY GET NOTHING BUT DISCOURAGEMENT. *HARD SWALLOW* Y-YEAH ITS OBVIOUS THAT THEIR BODIES ARE PATHETIC..DUH!..THATS THE BLOODY POINT! WOULD IT REALLY BE THAT HARD TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE "GOOD JOB BUDDY! KEEP IT UP!" THATS ALL IT TAKES... REALLY!

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:D:D:D

I'm slain.

I'm legitimately howling at this whole thread, how is petersen posting not more common

SO BANE - AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT BANE - HE REPRESENTS CHAOS, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF CHAOS, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE CIA, WHO REPRESENTS ORDER, ROUGHLY SPEAKING. BUT CIA, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CULTURAL MARXIST IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO TAME THE CHAOS - AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED TAMING FIRE, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU BURNT. BUT CIA, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD ITS SO SAD - ITS LIKE YOU'RE NOT A BIG GUY! YOU'RE NOT A BIG GUY, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF TAMING FIRE - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF CIA'S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE FIRE IS NOT TAMED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY RISING. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 20TH CENTURY. AND IT'S LIKE SOLZHENITSYN WRITES IN THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO - THE BLOODY MARXISTS ATTEMPTED TO QUELL FIRE, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FUELED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A BIG GUY IF YOU'RE NOT. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT IN THE 20TH CENTURY, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.

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Just what makes you think you have the right to tell people that their routine is shit?
>That's easy. I'm 1/2/3/4.

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For example? Because every debate has groups all desperately trying to discredit him and it hasn't happened yet.

This is correct, Peterson is a great guy, highly intelligent, and a fantastic tutor, but he's not a leader or ultimately a player in the world and though you should be taking his advice to be a better person a lot of his political views are simplistic. He's the type of guy to wait until the Persians are at the gate before telling Leonidas "hey let's not do the phalanx, let's try and fight individually, no point in saving Greece if it means we have to stand next to each other, plus no homo".

>"How is peterson posting not more common"
Because Jow Forumstards come out of the woodworks, reeeeeeeeeee, and shit up a thread when you dare mock their reactionary Daddy.

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if carbs are chaos then tickle my anus and call me slaneesh because carbs are my fucking life

Jordan Peterson isn't a reactionary, in fact his hatred of reactionaries is often a point of discussion.

>Voting for Republicans is voting against their own interests
Yeah let's all vote for Democrats and lose our right to free speech and right to bear arms, fuck liberty.

This is unironically true. If Peterson posted on Jow Forums this is exactly what he would say.

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I cringe every time I remember this interview just because of how badly matched this woman was against Peterson in a debate.

based

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It's just one of many, he was recently on an Australian panel and the same thing happened with some feminist politcian. It's pretty hilarious how easily he dismantles people's arguments and how the Left quickly resorts to appeals of emotion.

Good example here, literally no argument

I read this in his voice /10

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>neoliberal capitalists are "the Left"
>Peterson isn't a Reactionary
>muh freedumbs of peaches
>reactionaries always rek the libs with Facts and Logic ™ and never with their fragile emotions

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>Democrats aren't the Left
>Collectivism
>Big Government
>High taxes
>Security over Freedom
>Mass immigration
>Anti-indidivual liberty
>Pro-welfare
>Social politics

The only difference between the leftists in power and the communists who hate them is how to spend other people's money, now fuck off you prarasite and learn to actually debate people instead of making the same idiotic greentext statements over and over again.

>"So you're saying I'm a lobster?"

get a load of this beta lobster who thinks socialism is when the government does things

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Same, he's what people who didn't get into college think a professor sounds like. Fuck his mystical bullshit

Clean your room, kiddo.

4 more years of Trump, Brexit soon and the EU just pissed of it's citizens with Article 13, so no reason to worry about socialism anymore, Leftists are getting BTFO all over the world right now

>welcome to the own zone
>population: you

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it was obviously staged, did you ever stop to think why they released the whole interview?

Man that's a shit meme.

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>in other areas

What other areas? His writing and lecturing is all grounded firmly in his expertise and he is nothing but candid about which propositions are evidence-based and which are hypotheses. He *occasionally* makes expeditions into politics/public policy, but in that area he's every bit as qualified as everyone else who shares an opinion - if not moreso, because his assertions in that space are always grounded in his unique expertise in understanding human behavior.

At most you can accuse him of stretching out into literary criticism and philosophy, but he does so by-and-large to the extent that hacks in these domains presume to make claims that are in fact about human psychology - his domain, *not* theirs.

Leftists don't know what left-wing politics are, they think democrats are centre-right, every socialist state wasn't real socialism and communism isn't real communism.

I've had leftists on Jow Forums claim to be individualists while also wanting to seize people's assets and ban self-defense rights, you clowns are insane.

It appears you're not a man of culture.

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Oof

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laughed and felt it at the same time

This is just nonsense. Peterson's "magnum opus", Maps of Meaning, grossly misreads historical texts (a field in which he has zero qualifications and formal training) to fit his Jungian dogmas.

His actual research publications with citations are mostly concentrated on the efficacy of measuring Big 5 personality traits. His entire public shtick is on ideological fluff with no empirical support.

wisdom smartly packed in a meme format parody. Gj bro and ty

Pretty much. He's just a (((figure))) for online retards that didn't have a father figure.

kek

>I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, which was also a river. Her genital region was exposed dimly. It had the appearance of a thick mane of hair. She was stroking herself absentmindedly. She walked over to me with a handful of pubic hair compacted into something resembling a large artist's paintbrush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm several times to deflect her hand. Finally, unwilling to hurt her or interfere with her any further, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush gently and said, like a child, isn't it soft?
Truly an intellectual

>leftists
>wanting gun control

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>grossly misreads
>he just misunderstands
>he just doesn't get it
These are common triats amongst leftists in debates, pretending the other party just isn't understanding their claims so they aren't expected to back up them up and rationally respond to any counter-arguments.

>he doesn't have qualifications in 'x' subject
This is an appeal to authority, as if getting a qualification in a subject is the only way to understand something. If Jordan Peterson is outside his area of expertise then it should be very easy to debate him and dismantle his arguments, yet despite appearing on over 100 shows, interviews and debates last year not a single Leftist has done this, depsite the apparent lack of experience on his part, and the desperation of them to do so. If anything I'd be more embarrassed about getting school by a man outside his area of experience.

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It's just humanist philosophy you retard. He's pretty much just saying the exact same thing Joseph Campbell and Catl Jung said 60 years ago.

>>he doesn't have qualifications in 'x' subject
>This is an appeal to authority, as if getting a qualification in a subject is the only way to understand something. If Jordan Peterson is outside his area of expertise then it should be very easy to debate him and dismantle his arguments, yet despite appearing on over 100 shows, interviews and debates last year not a single Leftist has done this, depsite the apparent lack of experience on his part, and the desperation of them to do so. If anything I'd be more embarrassed about getting school by a man outside his area of experience.

I'm not sure who you think you're replying to, but if you learned to read, you would recognize that the post I was replying to was one in which it was claimed that his "writing and lecturing is all grounded firmly in his expertise". I then pointed out that the area he writes on is, in fact, well outside of his expertise. You called that an appeal to authority, because you can't follow a conversation.

>thinking Jow Forums's Daddy is a Centrist

Where on earth would you get this idea? Peterson is the gatekeeper stops whites from finding racial solidarity like all the other races. He promotes individualism to a fault, definitely not Jow Forums.

>jp just wants to help people and teaches psychology
>dont be an incel, manchild, a psycho
>hated by the left and pol
How misunderstood can he be?

I never got it either user, imo Peterson is just helping a generation of estranged youth find their footing. What's so wrong with that?