Start lifting it'll help with depression

>Start lifting it'll help with depression
>Stop watching porn too
>Eating well helps
>Still depressed

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Pop pills retard

hey try not listening to a bunch of fucking retards on a cantonese knitting forum as they roleplay about how disciplined and Jow Forums they are and go to a doctor you faggot

This all helped but I'm still depressed as fuck

did you replace the bad things that brought you joy with good things that bring you joy idiot? that's important, all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.

It's because correlation ≠ causation.

Spending time watching porn all day correlates with depression, but it's not the CAUSE of depression. Instead it's more likely the MANIFESTATION of depression because you feel you have nothing better to do.

Yeah

Considering the ammount of dopamine someone could dump out watching that shit it could indeed be a cause of depression on the chemical level.

Consider getting a therapist. If not, consider watching some of Kati Morton's youtube videos. I feel they help me, maybe they'll help you too.

>youtube.com/user/KatiMorton

If some dude is living the life and jerks off a few times a week, it's not gonna cause him depression. If you're sitting around jerking off 3-4 times a day, well, it may be both the cause and manifestation of your depression in a negative feedback loop. But removing porn won't be enough to solve your problem unless you solve your root problems that put you in that situation in the first place.

So many therapists out there and yet you come to Jow Forums to complain

how is depression real? I've felt myself being a real fucking loser many times, but never had this dreaded depression.

Surely you don’t doubt the qualifications of the therapists posting in this thread.

>how is schizophrenia real? I've felt myself being really fucking confused many times, but never had this dreaded schizophrenia.

>want to build a house
>only lay down the foundation
>why don't i have a house :(

Pop some D3s I take 3 a day feel great

That's not even comparable

Why not?

Because all people say is it gets rid of it, no one ever says it's to start off or anything like that.
People act like it's a cure or something.

it's not real tho

Those people also post shit like "haven't looked at porn in a month" as if that's a real accomplishment in life. They are foolish and clearly still struggling with their problems.

Sorry foolish was probably too harsh of a term, perhaps naive or premature in their celebration.

So then it's a cause of your problems and not about taking stupid pills from a doctor. Fucking figures. It's not comparable then.

What do pills and shit have to do with the analogy about how stopping jerking off all day and working out are only the foundation of a house?

What causes it. It's not gonna get fixed by pills like said

But this chain of replies originated with 's post about house foundations and shit

Do cardio

>depressed
>Angry about the world that surrounds me
>Started dieting
>One month later started lifting
>Been 3 months and a half of dieting, and 2 and a half of lifting. Lost 16kg (SW 96 CW 80. 1,80m)
>Barely masturbate once a week, top twice.
>Before that, I would masturbate every day. Some days twice.
>It's like my libido it's gone. Like I don't need it anymore. I have transcended the need for pleasure.
>Also, always thought my dick was small. Since my body got smaller and my dick keeps the same size, it's actually bigger compared to my body.
>Look at the mirror and feel happy that I'm not longer a dicklet, even if it's psychological.
>Take the courage to measure my dick. And compare it with sizemeup.com. it's says I'm on top of like 85% of the people. Fuck yes. Morale through the roofs.
>Still no gains and still more fat to cut, but arms are noticeably bigger.
>Have a trip to Europe planned on july, want to be the closest to making it by the date, even if im still shit by Jow Forums standards.
>Besides all the good things
>Still angry about the world that surrounds me.

My mind set its alright, but still have things to tweak on the social side of things.

u dumb

set yourself goals, OP.
youtube.com/watch?v=k54Mm-z7FrE

Start growing garlic and onions rght now for that extra test boost, its what im doing while listening to joe rogan podcast, got neighbor ladies checking me out through the fence, even leaving me oranges on the fence for me. I swear i saw a neighbor watched me get dressed through my french doors over the dog earred fence after i got outta the shower. Bitches be staring, white and latinas

I hear ya bud. I’m the same. Getting cardio is supposed to help you better regulate your dopamine levels but honestly I am even more depressed since I started working out. But I still feel good when I lift and enjoy the progress I’m making. Besides, it is pretty naive to think that taking up a hobby is going to solve all of your problems.

I was depressed once. When you get out of it - it's hard to empathize with how you were when you were in it. It's kind of hazy. Or maybe that is part of taking SSRIs. (I don't take them now, I did then.)
I think a big part of mine was learned helplessness. Like, all this bad shit was just piled on top of me and it wouldn't have been impossible to fix it but having the depression kind of makes you retarded. It's hard to think your way out of it.
So one thing I think might have helped me is if I could have practiced "progressive agency."
Like making a decision and an effort to do a little thing each day then making the thing a bit bigger over time.

If a guy can manage to lift, eat well and do noporn I am not sure my plan would work for him, then. Can't you pinpoint the things making your life shit and cut them out?

There's depression and there's depression. You might have legit hormonal imbalances. Visit a professional
No, they do. These don't cause depression, they just give you easy dopamine fixes. Cutting them out can make you even sadder, but the point is stopping being content to live in mediocrity and pushing yourself to actually improve your life, pursue goals etc.

>You might have legit hormonal imbalances.

not OP, but I'm kinda in the same boat as him. I had my test levels checked and it came back at around 450ng, which isn't all that much, but it also isn't so disastrously low that doctors would put me on TRT.

what options do I have besides going to the gym and eating and sleeping right (which, while they help, don't seem to boost test to normal or above normal levels)?

Cardio on rest days, better sleep not just more of it (for best results, no cold/led lights an hour before bed, absolute darkness while sleeping)
Make sure you eat a lot of red meat and eggs or at least supplement zinc and magnesium. Some people swear by onions and garlic, and I eat as much as I can, but that's the last thing to look at

thanks dude. is there a specific type of cardio you would recommend? I remember reading in a few places that some types can actually lower your test.

Sounds like bullshit to me. The point is activating your muscles without taxing them too much and hurting your gains. I recommend swimming or rowing but any will do

yes, let me prescribe you some anti-depressents goyim.

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