Air Hunger

Yes, but only for really healthy people who aim at exceeding human capabilities. People in poor health should start with normalizing their breathing patterns first.

it could be heart problem. please go and see your doctor.

>try to do breathing exercises
>can hardly breathe through my nose despite taking flonase and zyrtec daily

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Just stop breathing completely for a few secs and then start again but taking as little of air as you can. Breathing like that will be driving you mad at first, but you'll eventually will get used to this.

stop breathing and you will come back later.

I used to get that feeling when I was swimming in the pool as a teenager. Dunno what caused it, but it's gone away in my twenties.

Exactly. You need to build up some carbon dioxide level in your blood so your body will start producing nitric oxide in your sinuses that will open up your airways. The air hunger feeling is the key - you need to be on the edge if it for 3-4 minutes and the difference will be huge.

Deviated septum? I got it too

Google Patrick McKeown nose unblocking exercise. It's very simple and makes a difference in just few minutes. It's not pleasant, the air hunger feeling is panic - inducing but it will help you.

I get this every now and again, both times I went to a doctor they told me its likely just inflamed chest cartilage and stress, and basically just told me to chill out and take some nsaids

iron deficient anemia

eat more meat and take iron supplement pills

do i hold my breath with empty lungs for 3-4 minutes? Is that even possible?

No, Corky;) Breathe out, wait until air hunger sensation (first involuntary diaphragm sensation) and then start breathing but only as much as absolutely needed, so you are constantly at the edge of this sensation. Keep it up for several minutes. You will feel your airways opening up, this sweet sensation in you nose getting unblocked, more saliva in your mouth and general relaxation. It takes a while to get used to but works wonders.

*diaphragm contraction not sensation

I have literally never heard of dyspnea refered to as "air hunger". It's just shortness of breath. There are a wide variety of things that can lead to SOB. Anything from strenuous exercise to asthma or COPD to edema from heart failure to heart attack to pneumonia to anemia, etc etc etc.

If it's happening during strenuous exercise, it's just the exercise. That's natural. Learn to pace yourself during cardio.

I'll give it a try. Thanks user.

Thousand things can lead to it but the underlying reason is always the same. Lack od CO2 in your system caused by hyperventilation. When you get rid of your CO2 you've got blood full of oxygen but this oxygen doesn't get where it needs to go - to your organs and muscles because it's the CO2 particle that "kicks out" the O2 particle from hemoglobin on your blood. Bohr mechanism. Breathing is like food and water - too little = bad but too much = bad as well. There is a sweet spot called "good breathing pattern". Nobody talks about it but it's the single most important thing for health and wellbeing. Hence the asthma and general inflammation epidemic.

In case it's too difficult (air hunger can be very unpleasant) there is a simpler version. Just try breathing through a thin paper bag for several minutes. Just like they teach in panic attacks.

Can you please refer me to something on the topic that would be helpful? When I had my most severe panic attack this is more or less what the ER guy told me (about the CO2).

First thing that springs to my mind would be interviews with Patrick McKeown. There are several on YouTube.

This. I am in a high stress work situation and I had to go to TRE therapy to re-learn how to breathe like a human.

Dude don't listen to the garbage you see on here. It's passably accurate physiology interpreted by people who don't really know what they're talking about and who definitely don't understand clinical context.

It could be a TON of things. Somatic symptom disorder, autonomic dysfunction, hyperthyroidism, high/low blood sugar, allergies, asthma, congenital/structural lung disease, heart/valvular disease, GERD, kidney disease, liver disease, anemia, the list goes on.

Is it probably one of those things? No. It's probably seasonal allergies, asthma, or anxiety/breathing pattern disorder. But you should go see a doctor and make sure it isn't something more serious before you just assume it's okay.

Indeed. Some sketchy cult - like shit. Except that it was approved by UK NHS as official asthma treatment. But since you cant patent or sell breathing so big pharma has zero incentive to promote it and ample reasons to discredit it.

Why don't you just give it a try and see if it works. What's the worst that can happen? Few minutes of feeling breathless on purpose? Aren't you already feeling breathless anyway?

Get checked out for asthma, if I recall correctly temperature can induce an asthmatic reaction in some people.

Might be talking shit though

Asthma and/or allergies. Possible COPD. See a doctor or allergy specialist and get tested.

the guy gives a shitty overview of his own method imo, i would just look up buteyko breathing videos with other people. that shit is 100% the cure for "air hunger" btw. you can feel better in 24hrs

The worst that can happen is that you provide temporary symptomatic relief via breathing techniques and/or placebo effect while the underlying disease remains completely untreated and possible worsens.

Also, your explanation (assuming you're the same person) in your previous post makes no sense. First, asthma causes hypERcapnia, not hypOcapnia. Bronchospasm and airway collapse lead to air trapping, hyperinflation, poor ventilation, and ultimately insufficient gas exchange in the lungs. The CO2 can't get out, and so it accumulates in the blood.

And while the mentioning of the Bohr effect is true, it doesn't take into account the body's natural bicarbonate buffering system, especially chronic renal bicarb reabsorptive increases to compensate for chronic acidosis. Significant pH changes only occur in full-blown respiratory failure, which is obviously not occurring here.

ALSO, aside from an increase in reliance on anaerobic metabolism, your body has no way to detect oxygen imbalance, aside from carotid body/sinus chemoreceptors (which actually play a relatively minor role in respiratory regulation in the healthy individual, which is primarily mediated by brainstem hydrogen ion chemoreceptors). To imply that your body somehow develops asthma (an autoimmune IgE-hypersensitivity mediated condition) just because of poor breathing habits is just ridiculous.

Also, ripped straight from NHS

nhs.uk/conditions/asthma/treatment/
>There's some evidence that breathing exercises can improve symptoms and reduce the need for reliever medicines in some people, but they shouldn't be used instead of your medicine.

AKA you still need medical therapy, AKA you still need to go see a physician. Because chronic inflammatory changes from persistent untreated asthma can lead to bronchopulmonary fibrotic changes and permanenty diminished respiratory capacity.

He's been trained and accredited by Buteyko himself, he teaches Buteyko method, the only difference is that does a lot of work with athletes of various kinds (MMA, boxing, rugby endurance) so he's got some of his own methods of testing and training specific to this. Core of theory and basic methods are the same. But by all means, there are plenty of good teachers, he's just the one that suits me personally.

yes, OP should go to an actual dr to see if he has one of the rare conditions modern medicine excels at treating. but if they find no evidence of actual disease then the breathing exercises are his best bet

Sure. That's something every Buteyko method teacher I came across said in the first place. Nor did I at any stage diagnosed him or told him to ignore doctor's advice or not to go see one. What's your point?

yeah i like his method and i found his book interesting and helpful although like you mention alot of it is rebanded buteyko terminology. he just seems to flounder in interviews and even monologue demonstration videos to a degree that i wouldn't recommend those to someone that's new to the subject

Can anyone teach me how to burp? Every day I get bloated full of air and I can feel the air gurgling in my throat trying to escape but it doesn't happen.

Lol, not really, you just burp. Have you looked for some Online Burping Certification courses?

Yeah but I don't fit the height requirement to enroll (I'm only 6'1...)

Embrace your Manlet Fate, user.

I had some kind of postural retardation and this would happen to me all the time. Kind of hard to explain but i could get the burps out by fixing spine posture. Lay on your back or sit in a chair w sturdy back. Force your upper back including rear delts into the ground/chairback and do the same with your lower back by tilting pelvis. Hope that gets the point across

Smart. Didn't think of it. Is it forward head posture?

Thats probably part of it bc i have that to the max. Felt more like it had to do with thoracic spine tho