Are facepulls a meme ?

Should i include in program or just do more tricep/bicep work ?

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important to do if you bench
they counteract it and prevent bad posture and shoulder injury

how much though ? i do phul, is it enough if i do 3 sets 15-20 ?

once per week

>thinking arm work is a replacement for a rear delt movement

Jeff doesn't hold elbow on 90° like this guy

3×10 and do the other ones Jeff does that work lower traps 3×10 also

yeah jeff cavaliere athleanxdotcom always says to keep elbows a bit below shoulders

You don't do facepulls for your biceps kid.

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Saw 2 guys at the gym do these recently, except they put on 70lbs, leaned back into a sitting position while holding the ropes, and did quick jerky pulls with almost no ROM

citation needed

literally me

I wanted to make a thread on these, I saw them recommended for a shoulder injury/tenseness I have and they looked perfect. I've had forward head posture and bad posture in general for years now from sitting poorly, and a left shoulder problem thats lingered for years

problem is, every vid has a completely different form it seems. youtube.com/watch?v=HSoHeSjvIdY is what I ended up trying to imitate. I did them today for the first time and felt kinda lost, wasn't sure if I was doing them correctly. when I looked in the mirror I'd always be leaning back with my body and I had to correct it and try to stay more upright. I also "felt" it more in my forearms than my back shoulders which obviously didn't seem right, and I found it extremely hard to pinch my shoulders back like they mention in the vids. idk if I just have no muscle at all back there or my shoulders are so used to hunching forward that it's a impossibility for me now but pinching my shoulder blades together as I was doing the exercise didn't seem like something I was really capable of doing. was I just doing the form way wrong? where should you feel it the most when youre doing them correctly?

This is the definitive face pull video guide:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=MiRAi2KOfRQ

Follow his advise, don’t worry too much about leaning back as long as your back is at a constant angle (so you’re no cheating the rep by shifting your weight back mid-pull). Start SUPER light and just be focus on feeling the movement in your upper back only.

I CAN'T DO FACE PULLS WITHOUT LEANING BACK BECAUSE I'M GETTING PULLED BY THE MACHINE EVEN AT A LOW WEIGHT
WHY AM I SO WEAK

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i too feel they work forearms a lor because you have to squeze hands to hold the weight. i also lean back and also put one foot forward otherwise its impossible to perform them with load heavy enoguh. but yes everoyne says differently so what do i know...

So just lean back, bitch. Or do them with literally a single weight plate. Or do them on your knees like Jeff does.

>Citation needed that you should work the muscles that prevent your humerus from ripping out of your shoulder

Fuck off reddit.

Gotta develop your soles for better floor grip strength brah.
>mfw thinking of this manlet flying across the room on the facepull cable

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Put a foot forwards and a foot back. Same with standing curls. You need lateral stability.

When doing facepulls, the focus should be on externally rotating your shoulders. They aren't a high row, you shouldn't be pulling your elbows back. You should feel it around your shoulder, but not in your rear delts.

What angle are you doing it at, and how far back are you standing? I found a slightly lower angle, where the pulley is a bit above face height worked to unfuck my similar situation

How did you know I was a manlet, bro?
Good fucking advice. It also might be how high I'm leaving it. I heard from a video that I don't even remember that I have to have it at chest height.

I have it at chest height. I'll try above my head next time. Might be the solution.

I lean back while i do my mandatory facepulls aswell, i also keep the pully above my head.
That lateral stability advice seems like it may work and i'm going to try it out aswell.

Not for biceps and triceps. I do face pulls and band pull aparts on both bench day and Military Press day. Amazing for opening up your thoracic spine and scapula retraction. I do about 150 band pull aparts and 50 face pulls.

I'm pulling 150lbs and it's impossible with leaning like 30 degrees out.
Should i lower the weight and keep a more straight posture?