"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."
"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."
Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479
This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640 ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long
many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long
Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long
Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/
The vegan shills on Jow Forums aren't actually vegan themselves. They are just trying to trick people.
You're not going to find any serious debate.
Jason Hill
Didn't read lmao
Josiah Phillips
Go home sv3rige you're drunk.
Cooper Watson
Seething vegans incoming
Angel Clark
Then they are part of the evil in this world
You don' t need to, just watch the 4 minute videos
him not am I
Luke Kelly
I'm lazy(not a vegan, but my gf is) but this is kinda retarded bro.
For the first video, he says being vegan is bad because some people cannot produce enough cholesterol naturally in their bodies. Ie. the DHCR7 gene being fucked up and causing Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome. Also, it happens anywhere from 1 to 20k-60k, not 1 in 100 or 1 in 30.
So yeah, for those people, don't be vegan. Otherwise, if you search up "cholesterol", even the first link will tell you that you don't need any cholesterol in your diet. Also, they showed that people on plant-based diets had better levels of LDL and HDL(though it might be diet related).
I don't get why people will vehemently hate on veganism to the point of making youtube videos, then having a bunch of people who aren't vegan come to comment on them to validate their dietary choices. It's kinda pathetic m8
David Ross
Whoops. (might not be diet related)
Anyway, this is pretty autistic and isn't really fitness related either. If you want a debate, go to some vegan forum where autistic retards gather to debate other retards on their life choices. Ie. like some kind of vegan Reddit forum or something
The problem is that these vegans are trying to get people on fit into this death cult
You don't need to answer this if you feel it's too personal, but does your girlfriend not eat meat or animal based foods at all? Or does she cheat like all the other fake vegans? How many years has she been on this diet (problems arise from 5 to 10 years after their body can't eat itself anymore).
Are you sure about that? There are sources in the video
>More than 120 mutations that cause Smith-Lemli-Opitz syndrome have been identified in the DHCR7 gene. > The most common mutation, which is written as IVS8-1G>C, alters a single DNA building block (nucleotide) in the gene. >This change interferes with the normal processing of 7-dehydrocholesterol reductase. Another common mutation occurs frequently in affected individuals of Mediterranean heritage. This mutation replaces one protein building block (amino acid), called threonine, with another amino acid, methionine, at position 93 in the enzyme (written as Thr93Met or T93M).
She's been vegan for 5 years. She doesn't cheat as she's pretty vehement as far as I can tell. I've tried out her diet before for a month or two, I stopped because I didn't the bloating. You can google "Smith-Lemli-Optiz" syndrome and it tells you how often it occurs.
Wyatt Watson
how do you explain people that have been vegans for decades?
They eat animal based products from time to time, they're cunning bastards and will lie to push their agenda
Brody Howard
I assumed you asked about vegans that seem to be normal, but you can find thousands of cases of vegans that look decrepit
Josiah Powell
not every vegan is doing it for a monetized yt channel. they actually exist in the real world and function normally.
Ian Myers
Although anecdotal, every vegan I've ever met has had some kind of mental problem or just look very unwell, I'm sure there are vegans who really benefit from their diet, but I've yet to meet a both mentally and physically healthy vegan
Diet is probably the least productive topic that is brought up on this board, and veganism is the least productive subset of that topic. Why you fuckers love talking about shit you know nothing about and spamming links that no one is going to look at I'll never understand. Vegans can stfu and so can anti-vegans. If you care about this topic you're a retard.
amazing that they get off on how healthy their diet is and also plaster these overproduced photos of junk food at the same time
Lucas Clark
they are lobbying for meat taxes and regulations that limit access there are also some vegan IPOs coming up that I would like to see do poorly
Anthony Garcia
Is this supposed to look tasty? This only confirms to me that you're starving for meat and make look alikes to subdue your hunger a little
Nolan Bennett
this. pseudo-meat products are so transparently a cry for help. there's also pseudo-cheese, pseudo-milk, now I'm just waiting for someone to invent pseudo-eggs so vegans can pretend to eat some scrambled eggs while blogging about how fulfilling their starvation diet is.
Blake Peterson
makes so much more sense now. have seen the edgelord named 'chaosandpain' blog linked to shit for and against every controversial thing on here and always by the same person trying to instigate shit. it's never just one link in a post, always multiple.
thing that gets me, if he's making money out of this, why wouldn't he register a fucking domain so he'd have a shred of legitimacy. nobody gives a shit about anything posted on 'blogspot'
Nathan Hall
>even the faggot who vegtards ad hom all their detractors as is smarter than them on nutrition vegans btfo
Brayden Taylor
Omnivore high carb, low starch, low PUFA diet > low fat vegetarian with high dairy consumption > low fat vegetarian > vegetarian > primal = paleo > low fat vegan/fruitarian > carnivore > regular vegan > standard diet > keto > high fat vegan
>even the first link will tell you that you don't need any cholesterol in your diet post body
they have better ldl because starving yourself won't give you high blood pressure
David Diaz
I went on a tour group and one of the girls was vegan, she had to eat eggs and yogurt because she didn't have her "fortified veggies" and pills and would be on the verge of passing out. 100 years ago vegans wouldnt have survived in western culture without eating cow shit
Henry Parker
Vegans spam this same shit retard, go back to sucking off your tranny boyfriend
Isaac Gomez
because they shit up the board while riding jamal's dick, wasn't even a topic here until 10 months ago
Daniel Rodriguez
Waiting for you to link any articles so I can debunk them
There are already dozens of links above showing vegetarian and vegan diets are a deathly diet choice
Aaron Morris
I sure love looking at a thread and see Jow Forums like info dumps. I don't think any animal is a straight plant eater, they also eat animals here and there rarely so they can have a proper nutritional balance.
Ryder Moore
Yes, even herbivores eat other animals whenever possible
Show me someone who has been vegan for decades and doesn't look like shit... you literally can't
Brody Clark
> hehe
Christian Reed
Please support family farmers making a come back !
Connor Cook
Correct OP. Veganism is a starvation cult, nothing more. Luckily it only infects leftists, so (((leftists)))) please all starve yourselves to death. TIA.
stopped reading there. that guy is not just a moron, but also literally insane.
i'd rather listen to dietitians: >It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
that article claims 80% of americans have suboptimal blood levels of dha. better start chugging fish oil. or maybe not. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24551453
maybe just eat healthy nuts and seeds, and let the body handle the conversion in the appropriate amounts. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20861171 >Substantial differences in intakes and in sources of n-3 PUFAs existed between the dietary-habit groups, but the differences in status were smaller than expected, possibly because the product-precursor ratio was greater in non-fish-eaters than in fish-eaters, potentially indicating increased estimated conversion of ALA.
> Many vegetarian sources of B12—such as fermented foods, algae, seaweed, spirulina, yeast, and mushrooms—may not be bioavailable, despite claims on B12 labels.13 A large portion of the assayed vitamin B12–like compounds have no B12 activity in human physiology and are referred to as pseudo-B12 corrinoids. They compete on blood transport proteins with bioavailable B12 forms, thus further aggravating B12 deficiency. Vitamin B12 deficiency in vegetarians is significant at 62%, 25% to 86%, 21% to 41%, and 11% to 90% in pregnant women, children, adolescents, and older individuals, respectively
Alexander Flores
> healthy nuts and seeds > Doesn't mention phytates and tannins
If people (mostly omnivores and some carnivores) weren't so brainwashed to fear raw eggs they would have much, much higher omega 3 levels (you can get 522 mg of DHA from 18 common caged white eggs, Im not even talking about omega 3 rich and organic cage free eggs)
Dylan Rodriguez
If they sell animal based food, sure
Juan Carter
> forgets to mention the giant carnivore mogging the juiced vegan
Luis Hughes
Don't trust sv3ringe, read the sources in the video description
As I said vegans are fanatics that will lie to you
Also, ad verecundiam is not an argument
Ian Nguyen
My girl is vegetarian because of how joos treat our food animals. What should I get her to eat more of so she is healthy and stronk grill?
Owen Nelson
Wait until she gets sick from a vegetarian diet
Nathan Hill
Mozafar [35] demonstrated that adding an organic fertilizer such as cow manure significantly increased the Vitamin B12 content of spinach leaves, i.e., approximately 0.14 μg/100 g fresh weight. However, the consumption of several hundred grams of fresh spinach would be insufficient to meet the RDA of 2.4 μg/day for adult humans [6,7] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4042564/
Austin Gutierrez
Dairy and 1-2 eggs per day.
Logan Lee
buy organic or bring her to a local farm
Alexander Jones
omnivores have the highest dha and epa levels? congratulations, but it's not really a competition. my point was that if you don't consume dha and epa, your body will convert more ala. what was your point? it looks like you just googled up a bunch of articles that are vaguely related to the subject.
Nolan Bell
Fuck off faggot. Diet is as important as lifting fat you fat ass.
Colton Sanders
Vagina stains is gonna destroy you in a debate
Gavin Foster
>it's healthy because I called them healthy nuts and seeds retard
>my retard diet causes nutrient deficiencies but that's okay because it's not a competition weird flex but okay
Gavin Young
it's amazing how mentally ill these spamming retards are alwas the same links, always from the same sources
>B-BUT LDL DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING BRO exp+lain why high LDL causes heart disease in ALL mammals including lions and tigers and cats and dogs then you dumb mother fuckers, high LDL causesa problems in all mammals, some species just have an easier time wi th handling exogenous cholesterol, that's the difference. If your LDL-C is high, you're not healthy, period, stop finding fucking excuses for your shit health.
Isaiah Lee
>Vegans are deficient in vitamin A: >not a single source showing that vegans are even more prone to vitamin A deficiency so this is your brain on on diet memes
Jacob Morris
>caring this much about what other people eat Take your Sertraline >inb4 vegan, nah you’re actually schizo
Thanks for posting all that. Much of that is in line with a study that showed that long-term vegans experience a progressive cognitive deficit -- which is why they start sounding like cult members, and can't think clearly anymore. What's really funny is how he calls 'veganism' a 'death religion', which is what I decided it was a long time ago: putting dumb animals above humans on the food chain, and not giving a shit about whether humans are healthy or not.
Veganism *IS* a death cult. Confirmed. Don't fall for it, lads.
Ethan Sullivan
>The vegan shills on Jow Forums aren't actually vegan themselves. They are just trying to trick people. 100% true. Just trolls, sick in the head, trying to get people to hurt themselves because it amuses the sick-os.
>fukken saved Just saved the *entire page* as HTML, so I can mine it for all the resources in it later.
We must stamp out the vegan trolling on Jow Forums once and for all.
Want to help? Write a letter to Hiroyuki asking him to ban Vegan threads from Jow Forums: Hiroyuki Nishimura 5042 Wilshire Blvd., #34441 Los Angeles, CA 90036
Noah Bennett
nowhere did i state or imply that the reason nuts and seeds are healthy is because i say so. retard.
alright. does that mean they are deficient?
provide evidence that vegans are deficient. the weird flex is bragging about having the highest dha and epa levels, as is that should be some kind of goal. you can have too much of a good thing.
Joseph Thompson
You really can add 2 and 2?
Lucas Fisher
Not nearly enough
Lincoln Diaz
> your body will convert more ala
And even then your body will still be deficient as the links I posted show
Jason Perez
Bart already destroyed him, that's why vagina stains keep running from a debate with him
