You see this? You see this slit between a woman's legs? Stop obsessing over it. It's overrated...

Well thanks for the suicide fuel bro.

It would solve or improve like 90% of my problems, so i'll keep obsessing over it.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SEX GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL

No it wouldn't, vagina isn't the cure-all, you taking care of yourself is.

that actually looks disgusting to me wtf?

Having sex = eating steak
Not having sex = vegan
Here you can have a large stake with potatoes, sauce, salad for 5 usd and a clean decent hooker for 45usd.
You tell me if it is worth being an ascetic.

congratulation!
you are gay!

it would probably give me a needed confidence boost if i knew someone would want me to put my dick in their slit.

>if you won't put your penis inside a murky infested cum-riddled slimy axe wound you're gay!!

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I think what op is trying to say is that we need to like women for who they really are to avoid bad decisions that will probably end badly

agree some dumb fuck user got some girl pregnant and he has to be a wageslave to her now.

"Convince" lol

>like women for who they a-
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oh that's rich~

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False. It is scientifically proven that a healthy relationship improves health, reduces homophobia and hence improves relationships with other males, increases social status and opens prospects on further romantic partners because women one another's mate choices. A healthy relationship with a female does not guarantee to solve many problems, but it does increase the probability of it.

>reduces homophobia and hence improves relationships with other males, increases social status
Best arguments AGAINST pussy ITT yet, strange enough

>Get a gf so you can stop hating faggots
What the fuck? That's where your concern lies eh?

I agree but it can be hard to convince my dick

No it's actually about the phobia of accidentally getting homoerotic action because it is not clear for others whether your are into vaginas or dicks.

Ok I'm a virgin
How are you supposed to have sex?
Like I'm looking at her vagina but where is your penis supposed to go?
I don't see any hole or anything

What you are looking at is the labia. The whole your penis goes in - the vagina - is shrouded by the inner labia. Depending on the woman, these labia will be more or less pronounced ("roast beef" is mostly a genetic thing instead of a sign of promiscuity).

In sex, the labia grow and part and the actual vagina gets wet. You guide your penis through the labia and work your way into the vagina. The actual location will vary, but the vagina is closer to the back.

Phobia is not hate you Marxist fuck.

Ahh, its the old "I've fucked girls It's overrated!" advicepost.

No doubt you heard that same advice before you had sex, but you did it anyway. Wonder why that is?

Kill yourself.

Ok so when her labia opens that is like the female version of getting a boner?
How do I guide my penis in? With my hand?

Ok, I've been thinking about this for 4 days now.

I think us robots need to learn how to enjoy life on our own without women
when we get comfortable enough than we should seek out companionship, a player 2.
We shouldn't seek a gf to be our core but to be close to it of it.

we show way too much affection that comes of as being submissive
Women seek dominance and are repelled by submissiveness.

Can any lurking normalfags tell me if i'm somewhat right? What are my odds if I attempt to get a gf with this mindset?
I don't know a lot about dominance and approaching though

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Dammit, I knew it was fucking bullshit.
All of this is fucking worthless

It's kinda like a boner in the sense you aren't gonna be having great sex without it, yeah. It doesn't open like a sprouting flower per say, but things engorge (a horrible word, but the best I can do) and loosen up substantially when a woman is aroused.

It's typically better to let the woman guide you in since she knows her body. Either way, you'll be using your hand to guide your dick as you make your way in.

Sex is actually very awkward and kinda icky if you are talking about it dispassionately. You can only really look beyond it when you're turned on and with the right person.

You didn't get a reply because no one really knows what you're talking about.
You sound like someone who spends a lot of time rationalizing in your own head all day. You're basically just running in circles or spinning your wheels.
You need to get out of your own head and go socialize. Coincidentally that's also the only way to get a real gf.

The first part, yes. Stop seeing women as a walking pair of tits and a vagina. And stop obsessing over sex

this is unironically correct. I didn't get with my girlfriend until I started being satisfied with who I was independent of anybody else.

"Dominance" is the wrong word though. I think "contentment" or "self-actualization" work somewhat better. Women want to be someone who adds to their life in some way, they don't want someone they want to fix. The only problem is that relationships are a complete and total crapshoots. Reaching the point where you can look for a companion instead of a caretaker is the critical first step, but the rest of it is a very idiomatic and luck-based process.

The main failings of normies and incels alike is that they try to prescribe a perfect flowchart for what is an intangible and complex thing.

>Sex is actually very awkward and kinda icky if you are talking about it dispassionately. You can only really look beyond it when you're turned on and with the right person.
Is this even possible if you're slightly autistic?

Why do you always assume that every robot thinks about sex constantly?
It's more about the validation that comes with sex.
I want a relationship first and foremost, but I can't even succeed at hookups, let alone relationships. I just want a relationship with someone who cares about me. Someone who's loyal.
I don't care what they look like but I'm a total failure. All I want is someone to huge and cuddle. And I can't even have that. It's not like I'm a jobless NEET, either.

get someone going enough and they become a different person. Arousal releases various hormones which change how your thoughts and nervous system operate. You can absolutely look beyond the weird shit when you're in that state of mind. It's why humanity survives.

That said, you need the kind of arousal with zero holdups or self-consciousness that is hard to come by outside of a long and loving relationship. Hookups and one night stands are going to be awkward for most people.

Any other anons prefer masturbating to sex?

I've had sex with 6 women. About 40-50 sessions in total, over the last 6 years, after losing my virginity at age 21. Lots of oral and vaginal, anal a few times. Some mildly "kinky" stuff like strap-on play and face sitting.

I'm creeping up on an odd realization about myself, though; I think I don't actually like sex very much. I hate how sweaty and hot and messy it all is. I hate foreplay; it takes too long. I hate how much work eating pussy is, and most pussies I've tasted have been unpleasant in some way, especially the poorly shaven ones. I hate having to time things so that we cum at about the same time, or getting myself off and then having to get her off. I hate having to spend time around the women after we've both finished; most of them have nothing even remotely interesting to say.

I think that coming upon this realization has fucked me up even more than anything else. My misogyny has gotten worse. I've realized that what little positive feelings and desires I had towards women were rooted in wanting to fuck them, and now that I don't even want to fuck them all that much, all that's left is annoyance and disdain. The vagina really is all that most of them have to offer, and if I don't care about that, why should I even bother acting on my heterosexuality?

Masturbating is awesome. I can draw well, so I've got all the porn of whatever type I want. It can be as long or short of a session as I want. There is no consent or foreplay to worry about. When I'm done, I can immediately do whatever else I want. Clean-up is easy. The images and videos have no emotions or hangups or expectations, and don't overstay their welcome. What's not to love?

I'm probably gonna die alone, but hey, at least I'll get some good faps in, first.

youtube.com/watch?v=aDafLJRLthM

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When you actually have sex how are you supposed to do it?
Do you just make your penis go in and out?
I know the meme of women saying "faster" but when I masturbate once I start blasting I do like really slow deep thrusts. Like I almost start walking forward and they are really slow
Is this normal

Thanks for the replies and you are both right. some flowchart or rationalizing isn't going to work when you try to exactly predict the unpredictable, people are more organic than that.

I do need to be more content with myself and find the courage to approach, say, and show what my intentions are. I need to get over rejection too.

Read these four books and you will be enlightened.
The Rational Male
The 3% man
The Art of Seduction
48 Laws of Power

You are ready to leave Jow Forums and you unironically should. You are starting to develop a healthy attitude and personality. That's absolutely amazing and is a major step in the right direction, but this place will just tear down all the progress you make. It's psychologically difficult to maintain a state of mind when you are constantly being bombarded by a negative propaganda.

There will be no quick fix and it's a difficult process. There will be stumbles, rejections and frustration. That's part of living life, and staying here will just stop you from experiencing that.

I believe in you user.

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you're getting into questions that are going to vary wildly based off your preferences and your partner's preferences. Some women are going to want you to force them down, tear of their clothes, and violently dick them down while saying they're worthless because they failed a middle school book report one time. Other women want to slowly and tenderly build up, working off clothes and getting hotter and heavier as you whisper how much she means to you in her ear. Sometimes the same woman wants either at different times. It's the same way you might be feeling a particular type of porn depending on the day.

The actual motion is in-and-out with the penis, but not far out enough that you slide entirely out of the vagina. The "faster" meme is going to vary woman to woman. The idea that every woman wants to get jackhamered violently is mostly a myth perpetuated by porn. Good sex is the meeting point between what you like and what she likes. It takes a lot of active communication and discussion inside and outside of the bedroom.

And yeah, slow and deep is completely natural.

Alright thank you for your help user I appreciate it.

>you need to learn how to alone with yourself

ok, ill do it. no sex, friends, no nothing.
you may use me as argument against normies, when ill inevitably die from my body spontaneously shutting down at age 50.

fuck, ill even throw my brain in for free. Let everyone see the results of lack of pussy and friends.

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A guy in his twenties onward is literally measured on whether or not he's put it in "that slit" at least once (preferably multiple times). If he hasn't, then there's something wrong with him and people should be wary of him (and they're usually correct to think this).

Complete and total social isolation drives people insane. Luckily the only person suggesting that is your retarded strawman.

Yeah you need to be Alpha, dominant and lead the women and you need to fix your life before getting a gf

Thank you user,
and thank you r9k

I'll miss you guys

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Of course, because a huge amount of people that would be married back in the goo ole dayz aren't getting married.

You're gonna carry that weight, cowcat