Why won't i fucking grow? I have eaten a clean diet, of chicken, salmon, complex carbs and only water for 1.5 years. Lift heavy, do all the compounds, deadlifts, bench, squat, OHP and supplement with isolation lifts Work out 6 days a week Sleep 8 hours a night No cheat meals for 2 years But i just dont fucking put on any weight, and if i do, its either waterweight or just a big of lower bellyfat
Eat more you retarded faggot piece of stinking filth spastic drool.
Isaiah Jones
>6 days a week Overtraining maybe
Kayden Jones
Eating more only results in more fat.
Brandon Nelson
Based
Gavin Martin
I don’t believe you’re as disciplined as you say you are, OP. But if you really are that severe about your routine, then this might be your answer. Take 4 days off and eat lots of protein.
James Jackson
You don't do dips.
Elijah Brown
post body
Jace Myers
Creatine will change your life
Jonathan Edwards
It's another LOOK WHAT I DO thread where OP tells us about all the fucking nothing he does. Stop trying to make up your own way "making it" and follow a plan that is actually proven to work.
Ayden Long
Based and redpilled
Justin Gomez
Based
Henry Murphy
Based!!!
Cameron James
take test
Ethan Richardson
Based
Angel Lee
Based and milkpilled
Wyatt Edwards
Preach
Adam Baker
Based!
Chase Bailey
Basedpilled and red
Justin Kelly
Overtraining is a meme, my arms were stalling for 4 months then one week I trained them everyday for 5 days straight and got +1cm on them (mesurements are always taken in the morning when I wake up)
I know it's anectodal evidence but still.
Ryan Cooper
>But i just dont fucking put on any weight >and if i do, its either waterweight or just a big of lower bellyfat >But i just dont fucking put on any weight >and if i do, its either waterweight or just a big of lower bellyfat
are you retarded? you just contradicted yourself just eat and exercis e dumbass, stop complicating things are you ski nnyfat? are you really lean? are you fat or chubby at all? you don't even give any details you fucking imbecile, jesus. drink chocolate milk between meals, if you can't do this you are a lost cause and a brainlet.
also consi der training LESS, people usually overtrain like crazy, a lot of developed and strong lifters actually train less than most beginners
Jeremiah Allen
Eat more fucking food. Stop working out so much.
Colton Johnson
B A S E D A S E D
Michael Harris
Currently really skinny I have veins all over my stomach so pretty low bodyfat
Jonathan Miller
Based
Julian Powell
Roid
Landon Long
Based!!!!!!!
Zachary Perry
Same problem with me, except I've been going at it for 3 years and this is what I look like. Lifting is like pretty much everything else in life, it's all about genetics. We obviously have bad genetics and can't "make it" like other people can. This is the harsh reality I learned after putting in so much effort for such a long time, while simultaneously seeing someone with better genetics surpass my results in 3 months even with inferior eating habits and excercise
Same question here. I gained 7 kg of almost only muscle mass in the first 6 months of training, then completely stalled for the next 7 months. What the fuck is going on Jow Forums?
You aren't doing enough volume. Do 531 BBB. The 5x10 at 60% will make you grow. Also this
Easton Diaz
>71 kg >want to gain weight >start working out and eat everything on sight >a year and half later 65 kg it's all so tiresome i thought the fast metabolism thing was a meme but it isn't
Those were your noob gains, now you get to experience the big boy arena
Jack Myers
Literally what is your squat, bench, and deadlift. If you are not doing AT LEAST 1/2/3/4 for 5x5 after 12 months of lifting you are doing something incredibly wrong
Robert Campbell
what did you weigh at the start and what do you weigh now? you gotta specify this so we can discount body dysmorphia. otherwise you're not eating hard enough or lifting hard enough. do you enjoy lifting? you have to PUSH yourself, not just go to the gym to tick a box.
Bentley Myers
I weighed 71kg sort of pudgy and soft Dropped down to 64kg and went sub 10% bodyfat Now i eat as much as i can manage and have gained 2kg since November
Dylan Murphy
well you got to lift hard also
Juan Gutierrez
An Icelander monster told me a secret once.
Wild pork. Thank me later.
Adrian Gonzalez
im not gonna sugar coat it - you might just have shit genes for lifting. Look at studies, there's good chunk of peps that get minimal to none muscular adaptations from lifting.
William Baker
don't even look bad. post routine and numbers.
Zachary Walker
>Why won't i fucking grow? >I have eaten a clean diet there's your problem Have you tried eating multiple cans of tuna Have you tried to aim for 4000 calories a day How many packs of ramen noodles do you eat everyday, answer should be at least 5 You need to eat big to get big
William Reed
routine and numbers is cope. You just need to go to the gym and lift heavy. Stop overcomplicating things, nerd.
Isaac Anderson
Need to eat clean to not become a fat piece of shit 4000kcal say hello to fat rolls and diabeetus
Ian Baker
Not eating enaugh, simple, you think you get big by eating chicken and broccoli, lol, oats, milk, rice, pig, what ever it takes
Jack Allen
How are your test levels? Do you feel like righteous murdering and fucking all day? If not, you need to get your test levels up. Get some victories. Beat up some fags. Fuck a slut while yelling at her how much of a slut she is.
Jaxson Ross
>eat everything in sight Well you clearly haven't had enough food in sight. I used to say the same bullshit, you need to drastically change your way of eating and living.
Start cooking giant ass pots of food, have left overs for several day so you can simply reheat stuff or take it with you to work/college. You HAVE to make food easily accessible. Have biscuits, chips, chocolate, ice cream etc in the house and eat some of that as a dessert AFTER your real meals. Eat every few hours, set up alarms if you tend to forget eating (I used to). Make shakes of fruits and whole milk. I use 6-8 bananas with 1L of milk + some frozen berries for taste. That's like 1.5 L worht of shake, anywhere from 1000 to 1500 kcal depending on your bananas. If you're crazy add oats, honey, peanut butter or olive oil to the shake for extra calories. (and drink them with or right after your meal, they should replace your meals, faggot) Add butter and cheese to everything, your potatoes, your rice, your bread (smeared with butter or olive oil instead of normal bread) etc Have some frozen or canned food that you think tastes ok in case you don't have food in your pantry/refrigerator. I can guarantee you 100% that some days you won't have much food available so you'll get lazy and you won't eat properly.
For canned foods I have several ready to eat meals (sounds bad, probably is for health but tastes ok), canned sauerkraut, beans, fruits, green beans, lentils, tuna, tomato paste/puree and probably more stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. Don't rely on the shit daily, it's your plan B or C food.
Lastly learn to cook and discover what you love. One thing I've noticed is that almost all skellies lack basic cooking skills. And when you ask skellies what they like they really struggle to think of anything. Meanwhile fatties could go on and on for days. I bet when you go to the supermarket you're lost, you have no idea what to buy.
Anthony Cook
Oh and a few more comments:
Stay away from high protein food. They're great for satiaty, which is exactly what you're trying to avoid. Think about it, everyone who's either fat or cutting focuses on these foods. You're making things even harder for yourself. The only people who can bulk on those types of food are people with large appetites or people who are really good at force feeding themselves, you're obviously none of those two. And always ALWAYS focus on eating. If you start to get distracted, start talking, texting or whatever you'll lose some precious time. Feeling full takes time, the faster you can shovel large amounts of food, the more you can eat before your brain starts to send the "I'm full" signals.
Parker Ross
*shouldn't replace
Nicholas Adams
Unless your bones are only half as thick as those of other people there is no way that this is due to genetics. How much muscle you can put on is mostly a matter of the size of your frame, the ratio of maximum muscle mass to bone mass is about 5:1 in men. It can vary a bit, but even if yours is only 4.7:1 it wouldn’t make that big of a difference relative to other people with a similar frame and bone thickness
Tl;dr: you’re using genetics as a crutch That aside, you already look better than most normies, a small cut for summer and you’ll get mired by normies. Plus you seem to have reasonably narrow hips which is good
Isaac Baker
You could definitely have put on more muscle in that year, but that’s a very noticeable improvement, keep at it brah
Angel Davis
Eat more
Ian Gutierrez
> I have eaten a clean diet, of chicken, salmon, complex carbs
Why you faggots never speak in terms of grams? 100g of chicken? 10000g per day?
Kayden Jones
Today for example my diet was as follows
Half a liter of pea soup for lunch ~ 700 calories 11g carbs/ 7g protein/ 3g fat per 100ml
Then i had two chicken breast tortillas for dinner Each tortilla bread is about 200 calories Then half a kilogram of chicken breast at about 500 calories So im up at 1600 calories for today and im stuffed
Cameron Cox
could be from the inflammation. did it last?
Aiden Butler
Sounds like you gotta up the calorie density. You can have cheese and grapes as a snack, or full fat mozzarella with tomatoes etc. Use a good amount of olive oil when preparing food, put a high calorie sauce on the tortillas, eat soup with bacon or sausage in it, go for higher fat meat options etc. Right now you are eating very satiating, yet low calorie meals, great for cutting weight but tough for gaining
I suppose it is more satiating because its high in protein. Is cottage cheese a good snack to fill out between meals?
John Gray
1600 calories is not enough to get big. That's less than what a big guy would eat to lose weight. You need to be eating 2500 minimum, probably 3000.
Carson Flores
>1600 calories Are you a woman or a child?
Hunter Rogers
I eat whatever the fuck I want and lift heavy ass weight 3 days a week gained over 10 pounds of muscle since September. Train until your muscles hurt (try to aim for short workouts, 1 hour tops) and then give yourself a day to rest. Don't be a bitch.
Dominic Diaz
I realise its not a lot but i cant really fit in any more full meals into my diet. No i am a 19 year old male, pretty tall
Luis Cooper
What the fuck do you think grows muscle then? Just protein alone? No, you need excess energy. So eat more you stupid faggot.
Logan Jones
Another fucking dumbass that can't count calories
Blake Russell
i see a few problems with your strategy
>not eating breakfast >eating calorically and protein sparse foods >being a huge pussy faggot
Nathan Hughes
Based
Isaiah Hughes
>protein sparse food i eat up to a KILOGRAM of chicken a day
Sebastian Morris
Just eat something more calorie dense instead then you tard. It's not rocket science.
based height. How many calories are you eating? You need at least 3500 if you're going to take this shit serious. I say this because you're probably a skinny fuck who can't retain water.
Jeremiah Wood
>6 days per week Let me take a wild guess - you're still doing the same PPL split you have started doing 1.5 years ago. Sounds like volume is your issue.
Josiah Bell
As i posted above, today i got ~1600-1700 calories
Im trying to make my stomach bigger to fit more food, shit like rice and chicken are very filling, fish has more calories but is expensive
Ethan Walker
ah ok. Yeah that is your bottleneck. I suggest smaller meals, 500calories or so at a time. It really is mind over matter.
Make sure you drink lots of water. It will help with a speedy digestion so you can fit more food in.
Jack Nguyen
This OP, just how tall are you? There's a lanklet (like 6'3") at my gym that has been going for over a year and his muscles look like mine (he can lift a lot more weight than I can though), despite me only lifting for 10 weeks (I'm 5'8") and having gained 5kg in that short period of time. I went from skelly to meaty skelly. Literally all I do is eat meat and salad everyday and douse my foods with olive oil. And I don't even have an actual routine, I just do random machines 3 times a week and do le epic cardio the other days.
That's why you don't eat clean when you're a twink trying to bulk, dummy.
"Eating clean" is for people trying to cut because as you've found out, clean foods are nutriious while also being filling without that many calories. When you're trying to bulk and your appetite isn't that big, you need to eat more calorically dense foods.
Drink a pint of milk for breakfast and a pint of milk before bed. That's 600 additonal calories right there. Have some peanut butter. Buy fattier cuts of meat. Have a cheat meal once in a while.
Asher Reyes
>5 packs of ramen a day
Do not listen to this man. A single pack of ramen has 2 servings in it for a total 70% of your daily value of sodium. It's also only 8g of protein.
Ramen is really fucking bad for you. Sodium will cause health issues, and there are other foods you can eat.
Jose Brown
>I can’t gain any wait :’( Lanklets will never learn, you need to eat more and if you do and you start getting fat it means your routine is shit or you’re not training with enough intensity.
Jeremiah Turner
I'm 5'11, it's about the calorie intake though. Taller you are, more calories you're going to need. It's that fucking simple you fucking lanklet mother fucker.