Not every dude who mogs you is on Steroids

This is what I think of whenever Jow Forums posts physiques that are obviously achievable natty and ask if it's possible to achieve natty. People were getting jacked in ancient greek times, before barbell programs or protein supplements or roids existed.

>Find one freak
>Ate shit and drank and smoked

"Guess his dumbbell routine made him so strong!"

Protip- You're never looking like these guys natty

Do you think they had "folk" methods of raising test? I have heard of Greek athletes eating bull testicles for vitality, but haven't been able to confirm it.

diets free of plastic, pesticides, fertilizers n shit
just garden grown local veg, grass fed steaks, bone stocks, all that trendy expensive shit was the norm back then
(or so I imagine)

greeks also apparently really loved onions because they raise test

i saw some screenshot pic of how they allegedly not only ate them but also rubbed the raw onions onto their bodies

unironically looks great. might try out this routine.

Also, to all the curl bros out there. He says you should only add two pounds after you can do 120 curls in a row. Weight doesn’t mean shit, volume is what matters. Also, focus on the muscle and feel it contract and extend to build that mind-muscle connection. Music will distract you.

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Don't be a pussy bro

Larry Scott was another natty more fit than 100% of fit too

People in the past (and even present) have a lot of ideas about increasing male vitality by eating weird shit. South Americans still raid sea turtle eggs and Chinese people buy the ground up dicks of Tigers and Rhinos because they think it raises test (it doesn't).
Test levels increase after physical activity, especially resistance training, but the test spike is pretty brief and goes back to normal a few hours after you return to sedentary activity levels. I wonder if the constant level of physical activity the ancients had kept their test levels at a higher set point?
They also had fewer hormone fucking factors to deal with. BPAs, pesticides, and drinking water contaminated with SSRIs and hormonal birth control getting flushed down the toilet are all modern test killers that they didn't have to worry about.

Do you have endurance tough? Can you manage 50 dead hang pull ups?

Nice cope roidlet. Comparing the genetic factor of muscle gains to boob size is retarded beyond words.

why would you listen to what someone with small arms had to say about building arms

he wasnt though

>lightweight dumbells and bodyweight with many reps, low weight
>natty
>still ripped
Lel, Jow Forums btfo

Post biceps.

>T.none of your natty heroes are natty so post body
You first, blackpilling robot.

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They also slept a lot more consistently. If you aren't getting 7.5 hours minimum, preferrably 8-8.5, you are cucking yourself

This is a quote from a journalist observing him perform.

>“The heaviest weight scales 312lbs., and this Sandow lifts with apparent ease to his head and holds it there. He can even turn a back-somersault whilst holding in his hands two 56lb. weights. He terminates his exhibition by supporting upon his chest, propped by his arms and his legs from below the knees, no less than 2,600lbs., or over a ton of stone, iron, and human bodies.” – Eugen Sandow, System of Physical Training

His greatest lift was the harness and chain, where he heaved 4,800 pounds.

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Post biceps.
Also, how many push-ups in a row can you do? You have shit tier endurance.

yeah definitely, shredded enough for the era to tour yourself as a show

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Staring into computer screens and cellphones minutes before bed fucks with our sleep, and by extension our test and gainz.

Before Eugen Sandow they thought all the Greek statues were exaggerations muscle wise and that it was impossible for the human body to actually look like that.

>Lots of dumbbells 10-20 pounds
Are those what he actually trained with, or was that one of the old-timey cameras where you had to hold perfectly still for 5 minutes to get a clear picture?

For real. These Greek statues are so anatomically precise, they were likely made with the equivalent of tracing a model. They literally existed.

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I remember when reading Meditations I found it funny how Marcus Aurelius says not to allow yourself to get too irritated at people banging weights in the gym. People back then really weren’t so different.

Please tell me where I can find this quote

Don't remember this quote. Show it

your turn

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Couldn’t find the exact one, here is another quote from him in the gym.

>In the gymnasium, someone may have scratched us with his nails or have collided with us and struck us a blow with his head, but, for all that, we do not mark him down as a bad character, or take offence, or view him with suspicion afterwards as one who wishes us ill. To be sure, we remain on our guard, but not in a hostile spirit or with undue suspicion; we simply try to avoid him in an amicable fashion. So let us behave in much the same way in other areas of life: let us make many allowances for those who are, so to speak, the companions of our exercises. For it is possible, as I have said, to avoid them, and yet to view them neither with suspicion nor hatred. (6.20)

I found it in my copy, it seems like the hack writer rewrote it to banging weights from nail scratch, trying to make it “more modern.” I’m throwing this copy out and getting a proper archaic version.

Can I suk ur dik

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>Post biceps
He's literally quoting the guy who's picture he just posted, you illiterate mong.

Holy shit

>ate shit
>literally no processed foods
>also drank
>no fluoride in the water

Men were stronger back then it’s a demonstrable fact. And the facts are

>no vaccines required a stronger natural immune system to keep you alive. Infant mortality meant bad genes didn’t get prolonged
>every job was essentially blue collar and daily walks coupled with diets that didn’t have high sodium, sugars or fats meant a lean body mass for everyone
>no fluoride in the drinking water means there’s no testosterone suppressants in the water

No they didn’t you fucking tard. You sound like a professor talking out his ass

fucking Sistine Chapel shit right there. Mirin.

>literally the first man to post body

Based, is this the natty limit?

50 dead hang pull ups all in one set is no joke man, i don’t think there’s many people in general that can do that

yeah he pretty much cornered the market on that

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The genetic factor of muscle gains is equivalent to fake boobs you retard. Cassidy Campbell needed 1000mgs of Tren DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT just to make average natty gains.

You realize none of them were taller than 175cm?

He has a really impressive physique but if I saw it today I would think the person has to be roiding to have it.

>didn't train chest
>natty limit

Not too bright, are ya?

unironically think this with slightly larger pecs is the perfect body

gainz goblinz since the beginning of time

thanks man, yeah that pic is actually from an acid trip i had 5 months back where i tried to emulate the classics and transcended into art and artist

Incorrect majority of them were taller than the average man today you retarded faggot

Average height in America 5’9

Eugene Sandow 5’9

Arthur Saxon 5’10

Angus MacAskill 7’9

George hackenschmiddt 5’9

Ivan poddubny 6’1

Louise cyr 5’10

Apollon 6’3

William bankier 6’5

these greek statues with ripped as fuck models were actually fictional.

they had perfected the human body and after you finish, the new artistic goal was to make it better.

Stop posting the low res version

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Blackpils BTFO

By that logic, shouldn't the gene pool be stronger than it was because later generations get the genes of the culled generation? If only strong immune system survived, why didn't herd immunity take the place of vaccines?

that actually looks like a really fun lift. like squat deadlift dips and bench combined into 1 lift

bobby is fucking jacked

>By that logic, shouldn't the gene pool be stronger than it was because later generations get the genes of the culled generation?

No people with inferior genes breed very quickly negating pretty much 1000s of years of natural selection

>If only strong immune system survived, why didn't herd immunity take the place of vaccines?

Like I said people with shit genes breed very quickly due to a correlation of low iq. Yes people with astonishing genes still exist look at any top athlete and there’s 1% of Europeans immune to HIV due to the Black Plague because their natural immune system is so strong. But the vast vast majority of people should not be alive. Eventually they won’t be, if modern trends continue there will be a virus or disease that is immune to all our current vaccines, spreads in all temperatures and causes death so literally only those naturally immune to it will survive. And see as how all humans are the most connected we’ve ever been with our planes, automobiles, ships etc it will spread to all corners of the earth and only the strong will survive.

May not happen in our lifetime but it will happen

They ate bull testicles to enhance their performance and took cocain to get shredded. They weren't on steroids, but searched for every possibility to have the closest 19th century equivalent to steroids.

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based and redpilled

Fuck...I keep hearing 5’9” as average height in America. That’s gotta be some other America. I am 6’1” and get mogged pretty regularly. When I see someone under 5’10”, my mind instantly registers them as short, not average. In order for 5’9” to be the mean, there would have to be a fair number of short people to account for the huge number over 6 feet. Think about it, would you say there is a 5’5” guy for every 6’1” guy? Where I live, that’s certainly not the case. 5’5” is a rare height for men. Unless there is an overwhelming concentration right at 5”8”-5”10”, it seems impossible. I’d guess I see more 5”10-6’2” than any other range.

Kys larping roidcels. How pathetic of a human being do you have to be to lie on the internet? Lmao

There is definitely some exaggeration going on. I remember reading something specifically “enhanced” for aesthetic reasons about the low back area. And there’s no way that monster was packing that babby dick, that has to be another concession to contemporary preferences.

You mean average fake natty gains

Same here in Germany. Also 6'1, I get even overtowered by women sometimes. Wtf do they put in the water, when I was a teenager I was bigger than most of my school (I didn't grow further since I was 17 and I was already 6'0 at 13) and now at 25 I'm almost a manlet.

*short for white guys

Is there really an eight-footer?

Flex that shit flabs, lets see if there's even a bicep peak there.

m8 do you realize how large usa is?

Had to look up: 7’7”, buttfuck, still...Jesus. Seen here mogging his 6’5” buddy

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When they sculpted these statues the sculptor had the model flex the muscle that the sculptor was working on.

Yeah, I live here, man. I could never leave my state and still feel like it’s big. Most of the truly short people I see are Mexican. They are fucking up the numbers. I’ve never lived back east...maybe the wops are messing up the numbers.

They were all turbomanlets tho.

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I guess its more of a mental game, like you rarely think of the times you mog someone but can't stop thinking about the times that you're mogged. Statistically, you're above average height in one of the tallest countries in the world, but its hard to have that perspective based on what you see day-to-day.

That's easy to explain, you just don't register most shorties you see as relevant, noteworthy, or as people.

>At his peak Pandour weighed 160lb, was 5'6" tall

Hahahaha is that supposed to be impressive? The dude is just lean. I'm 235lbs and I bench 440, OHP 265, deadlift 640, and squat over 500. If we stand side by side I would make him look like a child. And this is a natty with peak genetics by the way.

>her face when he tries to impress her with his 15 inch arms

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The 10 lbs dumbells were for the photoshoot and his bullshit program he tried to sell to old timey normies.
The guy was a strong man with record breaking lifts, that’s how he got strong and big, not with those small weights

Based Philosopher which version did you say is shit I’m reading the same book the penguin published one should I try get a better translation

Nicotine is known to raise T levels
Also keep in mind that their T levels were nowhere near ours.
(In the 80’s, men had 20% more T than nowadays, so sandow must’ve had incredible T levels for modern times)

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What a retard logic.
Iceland has a mandatory vaccination and they have some of the strongest men.
And fluoride is only put in your murica and China's drinking water.. so only you should be sissys?!

>no fluoride in the water
>neglects to mention this was the dickensian era, where the cities were just one giant smog fest from heavy industry

Never skip brain day guys

Could someone draw this?
I cant visualize it

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Its working lads

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Goal body

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Natty

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Looks gay as fuck

Is this peak natty ?

>one month gains
Im not even really trying. Got other, bigger responsibilities, training around RSI. Just you wait nagger

No

yeah but they didn't even have proper training and nutrition information back then