Coworker start talking about dieting

based coworker

>Am I missing anyone
my sister

>muscular female fetishists
how is this as bad as any of the above

calories

>Am I missing anyone
A list too long to fit in a single post

If their literal only goal is to lose weight, health be damned, then yes, that is all they need to know.

Post pics so that we can decide.

Fasting fags
Irregular fasting fags
SS+GOMAD fags

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Based and redpilled, give him a thumbs up from me next time you see him

Honestly, your coworker is right on. Yes, there is more to know but at some point, you just end up overthinking things. If you're a fat fuck, just eat less calories than you burn. Make that your number one priority, worry about other shit as a distant secondary concern.

you're coworker is correct you sound like an idiot OP

Two reasons.

Muscular females are gross and ugly
The threads that get made about them are obnoxious.

That's enough reason for me to give someone a hefty dose of zyklon b.

Well that is correct. I think the problem is that we drop that advice and then the fatties try working out without changing their diets. They eat tons of carbs and zero vegetables.

I fucking hate CICO tards so much.
And no, I'm not saying some fatties are magical and produce fat out of nowhere. But CICO is just a down syndrome way to simple 'solution' for a complex system.
First, you don't know how much energy your body actually gets out of food. You don't know your real metabolic rate. You don't know if you already have stages of insulin and or leptin resistance.. and so on.
In CICO world I could drink a glass of gasoline and have energy for decades.

What is your solution? Be forever a fat fuck?

This is when they shill fasting and keto at you, bud.

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Yeah i know, I honestly cannot believe why those types of people have it so necessary to argue against everything. Both can be good, it is common sense that the most succesful way to lose bodyfat is to be more active and eat less and nobody argues that fasting is useless too. Also congrats, science or pseudoscience came up with this new diet keto that is working for you, good for you buddy, if you want to experiment do that, just don't be a fucking retard.
The problem is that marketing has gone way too far, after you spend some time here you realise all the product being shilled. It makes those kikes good money though.

may i add to your list gentleman, the following personel?
*AHEM*

>FUCK TRANNIES
>FUCK NIGGERS
>FUCK KIKES
>FUCK JANNIES
>FUCK COPE POSTERS
Thank you!

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So cool and edgy. I bet you feel so badass as pecking at your keyboard claiming people should be gassed for such trivial shit. Such a top guy. Women and men alike must love you.

Most people need to start by eating more quality vegetables.

Not our fault you can't live by CICO, Mike. Stop sucking off Disney's balls and move more.

for a healthy diet, sure. But its entirely meaningless for weight loss (cico is all you need)

People are going to lose weight if they eat more vegetables. They have fewer calories.

Oh fuck off mate.

Losing weight is NOT a complex problem. It is a very simply problem that has a very simple solution. EAT FUCKING LESS.

>you don't know how much energy your body actually gets out of food
A simple calorie calculator will suffice.

>You don't know your real metabolic rate
A simple calorie calculator will suffice.

>You don't know if you already have stages of insulin and or leptin resistance
Irrelevant. If you need 4000 calories a day to maintain current body mass, eating 2000 calories will GUARANTEE that you lose weight. doesn't

>In CICO world I could drink a glass of gasoline and have energy for decades
You know people aren't talking about the calories in all states of matter, they're talking about fucking FOOD

Your issue is you're viewing it through some fucking autistic eyes.

The simple fact of the matter is, if you need x number of calories in a day to maintain your body mass, and you eat less than that, consistently, everyday, then you WILL lose weight. Anyone who says otherwise is completely and utterly WRONG.

I mean, sure it's a bit more complicated than that, but when it comes right down to it, your body can't generate mass you're not putting into it.

If one of my coworkers said something that reasonable I’d be pretty impressed.

Sodomites
Trapfags
The Catholic Church
Lolifags
Gamers
Capeshit actors
Illegal immigrants
The EU
The UN
Congress
Senate
Jews

I don't have a single solution, I just hate people who either never had to gain or loose weight or done one of both and now that one concept that worked for them is the only valid solution for everybody on the planet.

Fasting is the best way to lose fat and maintain muscle, and it seriously works. You're just too weak-willed to not eat for three days.

Muscle girl fetishist absolutely seething

>The EU

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Based

> implying that eating less than needed to maintain your body weight isn't the only valid solution 99% of the world's fat population.

>throwing a tyrannical group of bureaucrats in a gas chamber is now a onions
???

No that would be a picture of a remainer, not a brexiter

>t. fattest country in the world
It's a nice theory, aka coping mechanism for autists. It was invented on the late 19th century and since then didn't work even once in big groups.

That is scientific fact. CICO does not work.

However you cope with this is your problem.

>telling people to just eat less is the solution, just look everywhere it's working like a charm
Of fucking course broken down, you won't need more. But it's just as retarded as telling alcoholics to stop drinking alcohol and depressed people should start being happy again. It's just not working.

based

stop fucking coping about being fat. The reason CICO doesn't work in big groups is because no fucking diet works on big groups anyway because people stop after 2 months and get fat again.

>It is a very simply problem that has a very simple solution. EAT FUCKING LESS.
Stopped reading here.

Eat less doesn't work. Your body will balance its calorie budget.

You have to eat healthy food.

Low carb diets work in big groups WITHOUT calorie counting.

>all this misinformation
if cico worked, people who got to a lower weight through dieting wouldn't need to eat much less than people of same weight without diet history. it isn't a matter of people lying about their caloric intake either, it's been measured in studies. you can only lose and maintain your new weight through proper hormones. you can't get them through eating less, it slows down metabolism. fasting and ketosis does not. it doesn't make you hungry either when you fat adopt. you can eat 1000 calories a day and be hungry due to insulin and ghrelin and, yes, lose weight that way, but why should you, if you can eat nothing, lose faster, not feel hunger at all and then not have to eat small ammounts for the rest of your life.

Some sort of mental illness compels people to double down on their failed diets (i.e. CICO) rather than try one that works (e.g. keto or fasting).

Maybe a form of Stockholm syndrome.

Basically right yeah.

carbs and calories.

do these niggas really think you can eat 10,000 calories of butter on keto and not gain weight?

Cico still applies but it's much easier and tastier on zero carb/keto. Hormonoes play big deal in your body composition.

no it doesn't retard. Whenever you calorie restrict people there is no difference.

>studies needed.
Du-duy no way you are telling me that people can't just eat like they normally do when that is a 2000 calorie surplus? Well color me fucking suprised that you have to adjust to your new weigth/calorie spenditure.

they also do prolonged fasting so... yes it just means after those 10 000 calories they won't feel hunger for weeks, maybe months

You can't eat that much butter due to satiety.

But if you could you wouldn't gain any fat mass. Only insulin can cause fat storage.

>Cico still applies but it's much easier and tastier on zero carb/keto.
>Cico still applies
t. can't cook for shit

>much less than people of same weight without diet history.
>it isn't a matter of people lying about their caloric intake either, it's been measured in studies.

Fucking reading comprehension.

Wtf are you talking about you fucking moron. Go drink a gallon of olive oil throughout your eating period and tell me you won't gain weigth.

>if you ate 10,000 calories of butter you wouldn't gain fat
did you really just say that
im gonna give you one chance to go back on that statement just because i feel bad for you

no, YOU go drink it and tell me you won't be repulsed from eating anything for the next couple days. eating fat eliminates hunger so you don't eat so you lose weight.

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>>much less than people of same weight without diet history.
Again hit me with those fucking studies and skip the "it isn't a matter of caloric intake lying" GL HF actually keeping people under supervision for 24/7 for an actual period of time that a study like this would take to actually be worth anything.

Jews and faggots but you've got the right idea.

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You gotta be retarded. I could stuff myself with 5 liters of icecream and deep fried chinese food and I would still eat later the same day.

Go try to eat 10,000 calories worth of butter then get back to me.

>dude imma just eat 3500 kcal of pure whey protein per day lmao

oh so its still cico ok just making sure

>energy can neither be created or destoyed
>hurrr cico is a meme
Tards think their body defies physics.

>Ketoshitters need to keep their cult bullshit to themselves btw.
Dude, we try to. But it’s hard when you go to lunch with your coworkers and they start noticing your orders and ask if you’re on keto. Then they realize how much fat you lost and how good you look now and they all want to ask for advice.
It’s also funny because this vegetarian chick at my office used to be their dietary consultant and said Keto will kill you. Now they all disregard her advice completely and report what they ate to me.

user those food you mentioned have a lot of carbs which will cause you to have more hunger.

What are vitamins and minerals

lol wat?

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because they have carbs that release insulin, that will make you hungry after your glucose stores are depleted, hense you crave more carbs.

The phenomenon the study is discussing is called “metabolic adaptation,”
which is where resting metabolic rate dramatically slows down in response
to weight loss. Meaning, after losing a bunch of weight on a calorie
restricted diet, the person’s body burns less calories at rest, so in order to
maintain their weight after the weight loss, they have to either exercise a lot
more or eat several hundred calories less than someone of the same
weight who didn’t have to lose any weight in the first place.
“In order to just maintain my weight, I have to eat less than 1400 calories a
day. ...it's almost nothing. I'm not full off 1400 calories, and I find myself in a
constant "Well maybe I shouldn't eat right now" It is sort of like an eating
disorder in a way because I have to restrict everything I do."
Not only is the amount of calories burned at rest drastically reduced in
these people, they are objectively hungrier. A look at the hormones
circulating in their bodies would show clearly that have less energy and
have more hunger than others of the same weight. As an October 2011
study in the New England Journal of medicine says: “Caloric restriction
results in acute compensatory changes, including profound reductions in
energy expenditure and levels of leptin and cholecystokinin and increases
in ghrelin and appetite” Less energy expenditure makes you more
lethargic, less cholecystokinin means more hunger, less leptin signalling
means more hunger and more ghrelin also means you’re hungrier.

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Stop larping fatass. Post body.

Go gimme a tub of peanutbutter I'll eat that shit and ask for more 5 minutes after.

It also has a lot of sugar retard.

alright buddy, I've bulked on keto before, eating 4000 calories a day 100% keto before and gained 22 lbs in two months, at 70% of that weight gain being fat. my daily macros were at least 80% fat, with animal fat being the primary source. i gained fat on keto, explain how that happened. you know how it happened? I ate more calories than my body burned, doesn't matter if those calories are fat or carbs

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You're over simplifying this shit. CICO works when macros are balanced and the lard arse trying to lose weight avoids sugar and refined carbs.

If two identical fat arse twins do CICO and one has all of their calories in protein and the other has all of theirs in sugar do you really think they'll look exactly the dance at the end of four weeks?

Based

Not gonna bother with all that. But went from 215lb 6’3” skinny fat to 185lb in a few months and was lifting the whole time for, albeit minimal, noob gains.
I still don’t look amazing mind you, but you haven’t seen the people in my office.

Bullshit larp. Post body, faggot.

Pure peanuts have 4 grams sugar per 100 gram. Is this somehow a lot?

Dude I don’t care if you believe me. It’s not like I have anything to gain from any of this. I just thought I’d share

10 weeks of weigth loss then a measurement a year after with no mention of their weigth or diet at that time. Well how did we just prove nothing at all.

You mentioned tub of peanutbutter which will have added high-fructose syrup on top of nuts.

What kinda shitty peanutbutter do you amerifats eat?

i can back this with anecdotal evidence if you like. when losing weight minnesota starvation experiment way and eating very low throughout the day, i did maintain my weight, but i was very hungry and my weight would go up if i ate over 1000. even 1000 was too much. granted i was a skeleton so that might have been the reason for my slow metabolism, not the actual cico diet i did. but eating even below my recomendation in recovery made me overshoot my starting weight. now, in keto, i am already at my previous starting weight (lost 10 kg) but my metabolism isn't damaged.

Look at labels man table sugar is added everywhere. American are just little more fucked in that regard.

It is possible to get peanut butter without added sugar. No wonder the US of Gay has an obesity problem.

Cope

I have 2 different glasses of peanutbutter in my damn kitchen right now with no sugar added.

then, if you actually eat spoons of them, among other fatty no carb foods until youre satied, you will notice you don't feel hunger. for up to 20 hours. try it.

Ofcourse it is working retard, it is just that your brain thinks that if a x think has a disorder after it, it means that they need medication for it. You realize that you compared depression, a real mental illness that comes from chemical imbalances in the brain to fucking being a piece of shit who cannot stop eating like a pig. Just tie yourself for 3 months and if you are that much tempted to be that pig that you are, say to your mom (the reason why you are this soft) that she needs to make x food and bring it to you. You never get out of your basement anyway, so its not gonna be a big deal for you and in 3 months you gonna have a total different body, maybe even a shorter amount of time depending on the calorie deficit.

So are you saying that what everyone has said and done through history for years "eat less, be more active", nowadays somehow doesn't work for the majority of the population and some other magical way needs to be taken into consideration. There certainly are magical ways buddy, you can go right now and squirt some juice up your ass, its gonna work wonders i am tellin you.