I like to think the Oedipus stuff isn't true but as time passes, it's looking more and more accurate for my life. I have incest fantasies and also a deep hatred of my father. It's been like this ever since I can remember; he was an alcoholic, mom was nice and protected me. Then as I got older I struck him down and now he's living in a nursing home with mild dementia and I'm here with mom, a NEET in a covert incest scenario. No sexual vibes but extreme codependency and less of a parent/child relationship and more of a friend/friend. I don't know much about psychoanalysis besides the gist you get in beginning psychology courses. But the death drive seems pretty acccurate too; I've been suicidal since I was 11 and live in a state of self-destruction while also projecting (or is it sublimating?) the death energy into my hatred for other people. Dreams also seem to have more meaning than purely random movies being pieced together yet they aren't nearly as meaningful as Jung and Freud make them.
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It depends on the person. I would like to say that if you are able to correctly analyze yourself you are probably mentally healthy enough to not need it. And i think that in general, that is true. Some people will misinterpet it all, like literally not understand it and assume it means something completely different than what it really means, and/or project all their own ideas and assumptions on it, and then they might make things worse for themselves.
But for most people, you could give it a try. Just make sure you have mental clarity and are at least somewhat mentally healthy. If you're an nutjob it will only make things worse.
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An interesting take on how the two guys differed. What has bugged me is how do you make psychoanalysis practical? Knowledge isn't entirely power and just because you know what's wrong doesn't inherently fix it, if I'm explaining that right. If to defeat the witch and leave the castle, I need to find positive femininity, what the hell does that look like? Do I just walk outside and talk to girls until someone rescues me from my mom? Or is it the opposite? Do I rescue a sleeping beauty, in turn rescuing myself from my mom? I think I've become a NEET mostly out of laziness but part of me thinks my self-destruction is blinding like Oedipus. Guilt for hating my dad, guilt for my weird fantasies. The solution is to rescue my dad, find a positive feminine force, and that's great and all but very unrealistic. Thanks for the link user, it really got my almonds activated.
Well basically the journey of the hero is leaving behind the safety and stability of order to head out into chaos and to slay the dragon. After slaying the dragon the hero earns the treasure the dragon is guarding, and takes it with him, back to the order that he left behind. This order traditionally and generally refers to the tribe, so the hero is the one who slays the dragon and then enriches the tribe with the treasure gathered by doing so.
The problem of NEETs and people like you seems to be that you cant leave behind the safety of order, and thus become consumed by it. This is what sleeping with the mother symbolizes. Someone who is so dependant on the order and safety that a mother provides to her child that he eventually "sleep" with that order, he falls in love with order and becomes obsessed with it, and also develops a deathly fear of chaos and the unkown. The problem with this is obviously although order brings safety and structure, it also brings rigidity and restriction. So someone who lives his whole life in that order will never really grow because the rigid structure of order simply doesnt allow it. This is how people become manchildren. It logically follows then that the solution to this problem is to introduce more chaos into ones life in the form of positive change
And this is done in the form embodying the hero myth. You have to go out and slay the dragon, which are the problems in your life, that is guarding the treasure, which is that which you NEED (and not necessarily want) to fix your life and even the lives of those around you (the tribe).
What that latter is though, i have no idea. That requires a lot of meta awareness of your life, introspection and critical thought on your part.
Hmm. I knew a bit about the hero journey thing but never connected it to the manchild in me. In regards to treasure, what does that look like? Is it taking home a $50,000 salary to a wife and 2.5 kids in a suburban home? Is it plundering Jewish vaults? Robbing people? I don't want to shit the thread up with me, sorry. I'm just trying to grasp the idea practically.
The dragon is clearcut, it's the chaos of leaving home and entering the world of responsibility. The treasure is really vague and returning with the treasure is even more. Whatever the treasure is, does returning back home, or to the tribe or community, just bring about the same order I escape from? If I'm supposed to get a job, get a wife, make children, build my community with volunteering/donation, etc does that not create the same stability I want to leave? If this is a fight between order and chaos does this make me the harbinger of order, or an emissary rather? Meaning that I'm inherently on the side of order but to grow I must leave it, fight chaos, and come back to share the wealth. Then there must be people who are emissaries of chaos right? They come to the world of order to take wealth and return to their world of shadows. This is all assuming that order is good and chaos is bad but I don't know how else you could frame it. Chaos is an unfortunate necessity and order is our attempt to control it.
Sorry if I'm retarded, user. What I'm trying to say is, if I'm a hero, representing Order, that implies there are villains who represent chaos and they journey into our world the same way we journey into theirs. This is very similar to good and evil and it's really hard not to see it as purely relative. It boils down to kin selection and wanting to protect my tribe, my people, at the expense of others, which I'm fine with, but it also necessitates potentially chaotic, or evil, actions on my part. This doesn't seem in line with what Jordan Peterson wants from people.