/Mental Health/

Mental illness is only a meme when you self diagnose with online tests. Also an illness is something thats debilitating. If youre able to fully function with it, its not an illness.

>You can't judge me for playing Dota 50 hours a week. My brain has CHEMICALS in it!
You either have the power to make better decisions or you don't. I bet you believe in addiction and ADHD too.

>when Dr Goldberg asks me the same questions and fills out the bubbles for me for $200 an hour you've got a *real* illness. Until then you're a poser.
>debilitating
>function
think carefully about what these words mean and the implications of what a mental illness is according to your definition. Is depression just what we call a sad person who fails to achieve their goals?

>I don't understand x, so that means it is false!
and BPD is Borderline Personality Disorer you faggot. Why are you on this thread?

did you fail high school chemistry lad

Sounds like you have bigger issues in your life, user. I hope youre vaxinated at least.

>believe
>>in addiction and ADHD

I myself don't believe in the sun

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Same shit, it's all nonsense. What's to understand. If you think brain chemistry can COMPEL you to do certain things then free will can't exist.

Do you just believe whatever white coats tell you?

>I don't believe in mental illness
>Is that the BPD hijacking your brain?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Free will. Does it exist?

Is not trusting doctors an illness?

I have a new diagnosis for you I think will shed some light on your problems: You're a moron

it's a rhetorical question. My thinking is that after giving it actual thought nobody could be in a position where they want to take meds and then brain chemistry takes control of your arms and flushes the pills down the toilet and then punches you unconscious when you try to buy more or something. It's all decisions.

No one said anything about compelling, mental illnesses just influence the way you think and act. How much of a brainlet do you have to be to think that all mental illnesses are the same and strip people from being able to think "normally"

>Free will. Does it exist?

No, nothing is aleatory, but insofar as I have the ability to do what I "want" it does exist in a limited fashion

I play about 15 hours a week, around 1-2 hours a day during the week and 3-4 a day at the weekend. You just projected that one.
>I bet you believe in addiction and ADHD too
jesus christ I hope I'm getting baited here

>brain chemistry cant make you do things
Oh boy

this absolutely this, mental illness is not real and all of you are whiney faggots

Owned.

>mental illnesses just influence the way you think and act
That's to say that mental illnesses are just labels white coats put on certain behavioural inclinations.

Do retarded little children run around screaming and hitting their peers because of the ADHD in their brains or do doctors call little shit children ADHD-sufferers because they do that (and realized by doing so they could sell amphetamines to their parents)?

>a limited fashion
what?

>baited
There are professionals in these fields who doubt their existence. Anthony Daniels has shit on both quite thoroughly. He's always been an outsider in his profession, I'm inclined to think white-coats, like everyone else, aren't above locking arms and supporting the narrative that suits them best regardless of petty bullshit like truth.

>you see officer I'm ADDICTED to stealing things, I had no choice.

based

Maybe you should've put some actual thought into your posts, user.
Probably a bit of both, is it that hard to believe that psychology is more or less accurate in terms of mental health?
>implying you aren't the biggest whiney faggot here
brainlets just don't want to understand that being able to function in life is more than just not being a beta virgin

Classic example of the moron exhibiting symptoms, he refuses to look up alternative definitions of words and uses his ignorance as an argumentative tactic

>PTSD, schizoid with dependency traits, avoidant personality disorder, adjustment disorder
>I barely leave the house because of the anxiety and depression
>sleep meds

I'm probably going to be homeless sooner or later

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> is it that hard to believe that psychology is more or less accurate in terms of mental health?
Yes, it's extremely hard for me to believe it's not pseudo-science. At best it's a semi-science. These people will be looked back upon worse than phrenologists one day.

>bit of both
That's not possible. It's a one or the other question. Either brain chemistry dictates the child's behaviour and the diagnosis is an accurate identification of the alien force controlling him or the kid just is what he is and white-coat calls him ADHD because then the kid's shit parents aren't responsible for his behaviour and neither is the kid. And of course white-coat gets to become the kid's drug dealer.

>being able to function in life is more than just not being a beta virgin
What is it?

the post you replied to is so long that it's not really possible to tell what you mean here

Just becuase you don't believe mentall illnesses are not real (Because you might not experience anything) does not mean they don't exist in some for other people. Why else would people empathize with others that feel almost exactly the same way? Go back to your containment board, you're probably a flat-earther too.
It's literally the whole post.

>Classic "I don't suffer mental illness so neither should anyone" faggot shitting up a decent thread

Can we just call this quits and transition to something more agreeable, like a RESPECT WHAMEN thread would be better than this

Are mental illnesses feelings or something which compels you to act in a certain way? Answer the fucking question.

>flat Earth
I've never understood the importance of whether or not the Earth is flat. I don't care. I do believe that the mainstream holocaust narrative is substantially untrue, that the Mossad were most likely behind 9/11, that LBJ was probably in on killing JFK and a bunch of other odd shit but not flat earth.

what mental illness do people who dont believe in mental illnesses have? or is it just retardation

>dependant, PTSD, DID, BDD, BPD, GID, dependant, avoidant, histrionic
>dont go outside
>sleep 18 hours a day
>need pills to sleep
death

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>I do believe that the mainstream holocaust narrative is substantially untrue, that the Mossad were most likely behind 9/11, that LBJ was probably in on killing JFK and a bunch of other odd shit
confirmed for mental illness + retardation

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>Classic "I don't suffer mental illness so neither should anyone" faggot shitting up a decent thread
According to tests I've been filling out for a while on doctor's/psychologist's orders which I was just shown the results to a month or so ago I'm in the top percentile of my country for depression, anxiety and stress. Proof they're meaningless. All of my problems are in my failure to act properly.

>dependant, PTSD, DID, BDD, BPD, GID, dependant, avoidant, histrionic

how do you have so many of then lil niga
is it self diagnosed

>All of my problems are in my failure to act properly

You're putting the cart before the horse, my dude. Your inability to act properly stems from your mental illnesses, how do you not see this? It's only gonna be worse for you as long as you have it the other way around, because your self-loathing will only deepen when your brain chemistry disallows you from moving on.

im fucking crazy

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SELF DIAGNOSED OR NOT?

They're neither you neanderthal, mentall illnesses are a disease. They can disturb your thoughts and behavior but not compelling you. And like most diseases there are treatments and cures.
Autism

no daddy 1234

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Why would Osama Bin Laden deny involvement with the most successful terror attack in recorded history up until his death even when it profited him nothing to do so? Why were 200 Mossad agents found in New York after the attack despite no deliberate effort to find them but not a single person associated with the alleged hijackers? Who the benefits from everything the USA did after the attack?

>Your inability to act properly stems from your mental illnesses
My 'mental illnesses' are just a noted inclination towards desperate thinking, helplessness, feelings of weakness and poor physical constitution. Nothing I can't solve by wanting the right things harder.
>your self-loathing will only deepen when your brain chemistry disallows you from moving on.
My self-loathing is deepening because I recognise that I'm failing despite having all I need to keep going. We aren't slaves to our feelings. What tangible obstacle stands between me and eating enough food to gain weight, sleeping sane hours, going outside, working harder, etc?

I really like being called that user

>What tangible obstacle

Literally, your fucking physical ass brain chemistry. Like, there's a reason the laymen says it's "chemical imbalance" it's because that's a laymen's understanding of real chemical starvation in the brain. Have you even researched the things your doctors have diagnosed you with? Is it cold?

get the fuck out niga, you aint me. I SAW HIM FIRST.

>mental illnesses are a disease
A disease is something you catch. How do you go from not depressed to depressed? What exactly happens?
>They can disturb your thoughts and behaviour but not compelling you
How does that not mean all it takes is will to work past all of them? Maybe it's harder for these people who get labelled by the white-coats but everything's easier or harder for everyone. Is depression just a fancy word for motivation problems?

d-daddy.... 12341234

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Nah fuck both of you, pick ME you gay little boislut

>projecting your homosexuality
how do you know it's not a girl?

more

shut up beta, im taking over

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lord have mercy i love boy attention hhghfd

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>Literally, your fucking physical ass brain chemistry.
All that does is exert soft pressure here and there and make unhelpful ideas more tempting. I can accept that brain chemistry is why I feel permanently tired and sick (partially), but feeling tired and sick isn't a brick wall.

If you love that, you're gonna love this dick

You'll get plenty more if you keep being such a good girl

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>how do you know it's not a girl?

all girls on r9k were boys once

OK, then if you know this so well, why haven't you fixed your shit? Think carefully about your answer.

OWO
o-oh god daddy i love it when you enable my mental illness....~~

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Even fucking better

no one wants your virgin penis

You're welcome slut, trauma based fetishes are my favorite.

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user, you are asking questions and disregarding the answers given to you. I don't think you're baiting so why not just google shit yourself and learn about it if you're so curious?
>Is depression just a fancy word for motivation problems?
You are an actual normienigger if you think this

owo; i got a fuckload of that daddy~

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>why haven't you fixed your shit
Weakness of character. I choose things that are preferable in the short term (caffeine, not sleeping right, poor/no food, using r9k, etc) over smarter decisions and don't do the right things I know I ought to (studying well, working more, etc) because doing so pleases me.

And of course, faggots shit up a thread that has nothing to do with them. You have a containment board, a containment general, just fuck off. This thread is for broken boys that can't live life perfectly

I have a girlfriend and since i moved countries we don't see eachother so often and i feel so lonely since im all alone an incapable of making friends i just turned to weed and alcohol my health and weight are deteriorating and recent bad moment today she's going out with "a guy friend from work" don't even say it i know what that means and yes I'll probably break up with her tomorrow but it all makes me even worse starting to think i developed social anxiety

Whenever I look at official sources on these topics the answers always come off as deliberately hazy and unhelpful. Always seems like they're describing what would just be called a particularly low mood in saner times.

You know it's considered uncool to reveal you're not a virgin here, right, user? Also, worst taste in Persona girls.

Because doing so gives you an escape from the harder things in life, like accumulating money, wealth, health, success, and so on. They're coping mechanisms, and guess what you're coping with? I'm done here.

How is claiming to be mentally ill not a coping mechanism?

Good girl, but you should stop before you get warned/banned.

being gay is a mental illness retard, I also like making mentally ill beta males back off from a literally random person. Feels empowering

Yeah if you're from reddit and or 15. This board used to not be like this. But even non virgins can be bots, sex isnt some mystical de-fucking of your brain, you dont instantly turn into a 6'7 muscle chad.

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>ocd
>drastically reduces QoL
>couple weeks ago, peak of anxiety
>none because i dont want to fry my brain

Being gay isn't, being gay usually ends up with people developing shit like anxiety or depression from bullying or trauma

I'm just saying that from the perspective of board culture, you look retarded... and wtf I have been here since it was Robot 9000 and it has always been this way what are you even smoking

b-but i need the attention :c

You aren't special. Go back to /lgbt/ and /r9gay/ where you're literally like everyone else. kys you fucking attention whore, thread derailing faggot.

What a fucking manlet, eh? 88=====>> I'm gonna put all four testes in your ass

So called ''mental illness'' is a completely subjective classification of one's character. It's a tool of control. A way to subjugate those society sees as out of the norm. Don't let labels define you or make you think there's something wrong with you.

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They aren't though.
>I suffer from x != I am x
also, your waifu a shit

A big part of the suffering comes from how the ''illness'' is viewed. Take autism for example. In pre-industrial societies it was not an issue because the lifestyle was simple enough that your ''quirks'' wouldn't really matter. You could have full confidence of a functioning member of society. It only becomes an illness when it starts to inconvenience someone. Why do you think ''toxic masculinity'' became a thing? And she's no waifu.

how would I go about getting a mental health problem diagnosed? I hate going to the doctors with my problems in general because I feel like mental illness has become somewhat of a joke recently in the sense that people are just looking to attach as many labels to themselves as they can. I've always felt like I'm being judged by the doctor when I went to them with a problem in the past.

>What do you suffer from
Starting from earliest diagnosed to latest
Adhd, Emotional disurbances (childhood schizophrenia), Major depression, General anxiety, gender identity disorder, schizoaffective, OCD, bpd, and PTSD/CPTSD
>How does it affect your day to day life
It is my life, pills, shots, mental ward trips, insurance, psychosis, disability, nightmares, paranoia, delusions, etc.
>What's been your latest bad moment?
I'm back into the delusions that I am Lucifer, that I am lying to my brother to drag him down or profit off of him by forming a band with him and making sure he doesn't do anything important with his life in a more important field like science, part of this delusional is fueled by my brother telling me that Satan is the deceiver and was supposedly an angel of sound or something along those lines, definitely not as bad as it could be, not fully blown psychotic right now, and I've not been as depressed as in the past, but still not normal
>Medication you take
I'll be honest with you, I haven't taken my pills in over a week but when I was taking them i was on 3 antipsychs and an antianxiety, also testosterone
Olanzapine, ziprasidone, hydroxyzine, and I always forget the last one, if I ask what it is, my mother will make me take my pills again

Currently in the works of writing down everything I and my family remember about our comically fucked up lives including such topics as my parents rapes from their siblings, how neither of them knew how fucked up they really were until a year after I was born, eating leaves off of trees, being bullied from kindergarten onward across 4 different cities because I was a weird quiet kid who growled at people, hid in cabinets, had eccentric interests, and was put in special ed as soon as I got to a decent school (2nd grade), and so on and so forth, it includes my story, and will soon include my brothers and mother's sides and points of view of the story, I wont share it here because it's so long

i wish my life were as interesting as yours. there is literally nothing to it never was

Ran out of room, if anyone wants to read the story or chat with me, i might start a thread though I dobt have any way of copy pasting the story so I would have to type it all out and it'd take time as I am on my phone like a faggot, would switch to computer for speed sake, also I'm not finished writing it, only up to the point where I first started schooling in a new town where they started drugging me for wandering the class and growling at people, long story, I can tell you specific parts but anything that you'd start tying together where things really went South may be too long and more worthy of a new thread
Everyone's life is interesting user, you probably blocked it out like I blocked out my years livibg in milwaukee and having to duck down to make sure I didn't die even though I was only a toddler, don't remember a single second of that

>years living in Milwaukee

I kinda envy that just because I want to meet RLM

Honestly everyone i know has lived very interesting lives, not just my family members and me, my brother knows a guy who thought he was born in California, born in 1996, thought his mother died of cancer, this Christmas, beans spill, his mother pops up at home, his father tells him he was born in 1998, and was raised in some forgettable flyover state, pretty wild
You definitely have something interesting about you, how many people can say they grew up on Jow Forums, outside of Jow Forums of course, also considering your in this thread, you have mental illness, and part of mental illness is having at least some trauma, you also have years worth of some kind of school stories, most likely bullies like I had, think about it.

>A disease is something you catch
is this bait? holy shit you are stupid not reading past that

What I said years of living in milwaukee, I really meant maybe 2 years max, also I meant to say I was ducking down because of gang related violence in the area, shootings, stray bullets can hit anything, luckily we were never one of them, by the way, this most likely paints me as a nigger, not black, but not white, 100% not black, most likely Italian, Russian, Sicilian, and many other things, I look mexican
Anyways, don't Kno who or what RLM is but it seems to be a news source, never heard of it before, don't watch the news too much, tv talks to me, very uncomfortable

Shit sorry, I saw media in the title and assumed news for some reason, I looks to be a very cheesy movie review channel, why is every channel from Wisconsin always so cheesy
>Inb4 because cheese state
Kill yourself

My desire to not work 8 hours a day is a disease. Support me.

I don't know dog, but RLM definitely broke the MOLD

Just because you're different than everyone else doesn't always mean you're good, having an extra face on the back of your head is breaking the mold but it's no use and if it talks and all that, the dominant face will probably kill both of themselves
I'm just giving you shit, horrible first impression, the pinned video is probably old and I only listened to a minute worth of rambling, its hard for me to watch most videos or content that isn't jibberish melodic calm music without starting to freak out and thinking the person wants to fuck me or kill me, maybe some day when I'm more stable I'll actually enjoy it

Jeez, could you be any more alienating if you tried? I mean bro I get that we're anonymous but get your Mom to read your posts or something before you hit enter JFC

Alright buddy I dont know what you expect in the mental health thread, maybe puppies and talking about fucking math for all I know but I'm just doing what OP recommended, talking g about my mental wellbeing, how I'm feeling, and opening up
What about it is alienating? I am a severely mentally ill ftm tranny ready to spill the beans about my fucked up life, I am also generating responses to your replies, you talked about how me and that YouTube channel spent time in the same city so i talked about the part of the city of was in and how the YouTube channel and videos in general make me feel, I thought we were having a good conversation but you hit me with the "your alienating yourself" how? By being open and welcoming and kind? Hide my responses if it bothers you that much

>what do you suffer from?
Anxiety, depression, and derealization/dissociation
>how does it affect your day to day life?
I lose the touch with the reality if I'm anxious, like I always live in a dream and nothing is real.
>what's been your latest bad moment?
I think I had a panic attack but the derealization made me feel high or something like that.
>medication you take?
sertraline 75mg

Anyone here struggling with derealization/dissociation/depersonalization. How do you cope with that ?

I made a joke about mold and you just started blabbering.

>what do you suffer from?
PTSD from deployment
>how does it affect your day to day life?
I can barely eat and think about suicide all day
>what's been your latest bad moment?
Girl that I met in Afghanistan that I love came to visit me. She knows I love her. I don't think she actually likes me but we kissed and hung out the whole day. She went back to her state and had a boyfriend like two days later. I have felt even more worthless
>medication you take?
Bullets soon, hopefully. I am the most pathetic black male in the world.

Nice digits
I dont know if you can tell but I've been blabbering for this entire time, maybe you'll see something interesting in my blabbering and blabber back with something longer than a sentence, I'm in a very talkative mood, I also want to learn some stuff, maybe about you, maybe about science or music or philosophy, anything really. And, sorry about not getting your mold joke, it seems you don't actually care much but hard for me to get jokes sometimes, symptom of schizo is taking everything literally/personally