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>worked out for the first time in months
>worked the heavy bag in my basement for close to 10 mins, almost winded
>did bicep curls, shoulder presses and goblet squats with 25lb dumbells and it was much more difficult than I'd like to admit
>mfw that was a light warm up for me when I was in high school

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Should I be doing ab workouts or is jogging gonna be enough to get rid of belly fat?

Nigga you have 20lb to lose, why you talking like you 300lb

How did you arrive at 170 figure anyway? If you have no muscle that still seems heavy

You cant really effectively "target" an area for fat loss. You can make the muscles behind subcutaneous fat bigger and stick out more but fat is lost throughout the entire body when you run a deficit. That said, if you work abs they'll get bigger, as they get bigger they'll show up better. If you have weight to lose then running is the best way to do that.

I'm 6'0, started at 265 and now at 188 doing pure CICO. Do keto if it works for you, but it's not really any more effective. I do recommend lifting and some light cardio, however.

I'm with ya man, we're all gonna make it.

perhaps im trying to psych myself up for it idk. also 170 is about my comfortable weight. I guess I could go lower

both keto and IF are memes. if they help you to not cheat then go for it but it's not really going to do anything more than well managed CICO would

i Want to skip lunch and instead go to the gym and swim. I’ve been out of the water way too long.

IF is not a meme. It allows you to eat bigger meals by skipping one meal or certain days. Also, if you fast long enough, autophagy is a real phenomenon. But your principles are correct; it all comes down to CiCO

mainstream medicine is recommending keto and IF for type 2 diabetics to help reset insulin shit and lose weight, i’d say it’s no longer a meme
>omad masterrace

@fastards
didn't ask you fucking cultists

Maybe when you're not fat you'll stop being insecure over things that don't matter

350lbs coming through choo choo mother fucker

It's lonely that literally no one wants fatties to lose weight.

The haters don't motivate me because they don't want us to lose weight, they want us to stay fat so they can keep hating us.

The people in my life don't motivate me because the fat ones want me to stay fat because they are fat, half the skinny ones want me to stay fat because it makes them feel skinnier, and the other half want me to stay fat because they're deluded by our alt-left society and unironically believe I'm healthier this way.

Doctors, nutritionists, psychiatrists, none of them motivate me because they all want to just dance around the issue. They know I'm too fat, they know exactly why I'm too fat, and they refuse to give it to me straight. They'd all rather just keep me that way and treat the symptoms. And if I tell them I want to lose weight, they act offended. THEY'RE the ones who get offended by it, when the shade I'm throwing ain't even about them. Guess they're just brainwashed like the rest.

I don't motivate myself because I want myself to stay fat because I get off on it and have no self respect or self worth. This was already a problem before I was ever fat, being fat didn't cause it, though it has certainly made it worse.

No one is concerned. I shouldn't be eating this much, I know it, they know it, no one cares. No one acknowledges it, and if they do, it's not "stop doing it," it's "haha you're doing it, that's so funny, I'm so happy to be better than you."

There's no support, no one believes in you, no one wants you to become a better person. You have to want that for yourself, and I can't always want that for myself, because I am fucking mentally ill. I was 400lbs, got back down to 270, now I'm up to 350 again, why, because I fucking hate myself and no one gives a shit.

I'm not blaming them, it's my fault for being mentally ill in the first place of course. I'm just saying, I need help, and there's none to be had.

>1000 calorie diet
>steadily lose around .7 pounds a day
>get to 208.5lbs
>stay at 208.5lbs
what's going on bros, it's been 4 days

20 lbs should be done in 4 months without effort, just start today. 170 is fine but lift too

4 days isn’t bad - I hear things like that happen sometimes
I only weigh myself once a week to avoid daily stresses personally, but from what I’ve read this isn’t an uncommon question and the answer is keep doing what you’re doing and eventually you will see the losses resume - if you are very worried double check everything you are eating just to make sure you aren’t missing anything but it sounds like you’re careful

I think I'm gonna give up. I really don't care anymore. Even if I lose bunch of weight I'd be depressed because of left over loose skin. I already know it's my fault. Women are a waste of time, sex is overrated so no point in trying to lift or get fit for them anyway. Theyll leave you regardless of how you look like. In the end we all die. Might as well enjoy yourself while you can.

How much water does a protein bar heat?

I think you may be looking too closely into it. Nobody secretly thinks about you and wants you to stay fat, you're just confused. If they hate on you, it's because you're huge and rotund and they are not. That's it. They don't think "Haha I want this whale fucker to stay fat forever so I can always hate him". That's delusional. It may be less delusional for other fatties to want you to stay fat, but I don't think that's the case for really skinny people. For skinny people, it's probably the same case as the haters. You just look silly.

Let the hate motivate you. Don't you want to avoid the ridicule? Make them eat their words bro. The only way to not look silly is to get going, start today. Download myfitnesspal and start recording your calories. Make a solid limit, maybe something even less than the one the app gives you. You got this.

Nobody cares about you this much and it most they're repulsed by you. The level of self absorption you're showing is as big as your appetite. Get over it and start dieting you whiner.

That happens to me 2 times a month. I plateau for 3-7 days and then my weight goes down by 3-4 lbs. It's equally annoying and rewarding

If you're going to ask like that, I hope you're aware food calories differ from physical calories by a factor of 1000. Furthermore, you shouldn't concern yourself with the full energy content of the protein bar; only the energy it can supply to the human body is relevant.

Anyway, a protein bar is roughly 200-400kcal. Any lower and it's probably more of a snack bar than a protein bar; any higher and it's just a chocolate bar that wanted an excuse to call itself healthy.

*Teehee, beauty bite*

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Yea but how much water does the bar heat?

about 23 degrees depending on what you want. Its a pretty simple calculation retard

Had chocolate mousse for dessert at lunch because it was free. But the meal was light

I wotk manual labor 10 hours a day. How do I manage my 1200 calorie diet without feeling like a tired sack of shit all day long? Pls respond

But the experience of overeating and not exercising it off is presently all that gives my life value and I don't really respect myself enough to have any interest in avoiding the ridicule. I'm just complaining anyway because hating yourself still hurts even if you'd rather hate
yourself than stop being unhealthy.

>how much water
>23 degrees

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nigger i will fist you into oblivion if you try to embarrass me like this again. Stay true to yourself please

Not him (i'm this guy ) but if how much water it heats is really what you wanted to know, and you weren't just trying to come up with a clever way to ask how many food calories it has, then you're on the wrong board. is that way

>Nobody cares about you this much and it most they're repulsed by you.
Yes I know, that's what i just said

The definition of calorie is how much water something can heat. I just don't see the connection between metabolism and raising water's temperature so I was curious how much water I can heat with a protein bar

Being fat doesn't give you worth. At the most, you're a novelty for being so huge. Get off your ass bro. You can't make yourself worth something if you're too obsessed with wallowing in your own despair. You're making yourself feel shitty for the sake of feeling shitty. Smell the roses dude, there's more to life than sitting around and being sad all day. It's all in your head. Everybody is too caught up with themselves to care about assessing your worth. You've got no reason to hate yourself if you are still capable of making the change.

Society isn't keeping you down. Skinny people aren't keeping you down. Fat people aren't keeping you down. Haters aren't keeping you down. You are.

You clearly have an interest in getting rid of the weight; why don't you do it? Stop it with the self pity. Get started.

As the other poster said, you probably want /sci/ if this is a serious question - the measurements are taken by grams, so the question of
> how much water
For a calorie it is 1 gram, for a Calorie it is 1kg for measurement purposes

>I was curious how much water I can heat with a protein bar
The nutritional makeup of a protein bar won't tell you this because food calories only account for what can be used by the human body, specifically as energy in the form of glucose.

So, I can't tell you how much water a protein bar can heat. But I can tell you how much water the energy your metabolism can derive from a protein bar can heat: 200-400kg of water by 1 degree celsius.

That's the connection between metabolism and heating water. Your metabolism can store blood sugar as fat, extract blood sugar from fat, and, in any case, extract energy from blood sugar. That energy is then used to apply force to your body parts to accelerate them over a distance, as energy does. However, the energy could also be used to heat water, and how much water, by how much specific heat, is one concrete way of defining how much energy we're talking about.

drugs

Well thanks. I appreciate this and I'll take it heart. And in all likelihood nothing will come of it because that's just the kind of person I am. But there's a chance.

>And in all likelihood nothing will come of it because that's the kind of person I am.
Try again bro. Send the message without this part.
>But there's a chance.
Replace this with "I'm gonna make it."

Now, make it a reality by downloading a fitness app and recording EVERYTHING you eat. It takes no more than 30 seconds every time and will keep you on track. I like myfitnesspal, but there's plenty of others. You got this bro.

Happens to me too. Every time I'd start getting pissed and either want to do some radical change or give up and then the next day I'd be 5lbs lighter. Makes it a bit sweeter when it happens all at once.

Is it not a good idea to jog at 5ft 9 inches 220lbs? My right foot has been hurting since yesterday and I'm not sure if I should jog some more today. It's how I burn the most calories though.

Take a couple of days off. You'll lose some progress but if you strain it further and it becomes a chronic problem you'll hurt your ability to workout more than if you just lose a couple of days.

My metatarsal is jacked up right now and its killing me to not be able to run.

>scoop of whey protein
>4 oz of white meat chicken, no skin
>1 egg
>still only 60% of protein for the day
FUCK

When do the cravings stop? I just want to eat a fucking cheeseburger...

Can i drink tea with sugar twin in the evening when i, starting to crave food? I want to stay around 1000-1200 cals a day, and it gets hard in the evening.

Ive been drinking tea to distract these cravings. Is there any calories in tea? Its just flavored water right?

imagine having cravings and then maintaining them

user, just eat a plain cheeseburger without a bun. Even in some fast food places its only like 400-500 calories for two patties

get some greek yogurt and a low carb trail mix with 6-8g of protein. ez 30g of protein per serving

Just have a really small breakfast, a small lunch, and then you can indulge in the evening with the remaining calories.
t. 210lbs on 1000 calories/day

I usually have 200 calories worth of food early, then another 200 in the middle of the day, then I finish off the evening with 600 calories of whatever I'm feeling. You can't crave stuff when you're asleep.

Hey, you know what, this got me thinking. I've used myfitnesspal several times in the past, that's how I got down to 270lbs in the first place. But I've come to resent it. Which reminds me of an idea I had, to create my own CLI utility to replace MFP. I already know how many calories are in everything I eat, I keep track of it in my head and am well aware of how excessive it is, I just do it anyway because I don't care. Trackers help me care, but I come to resent them and stop using them. But I can't resent something I made, right? How can I resent myself any more than I already do?

So my idea for this thing is, it's not a daily tracker. It's a secondly tracker. Based on calculations re. your metabolism and stated goal weekly weight loss rate, you can watch the number of calories you have available increase in real time as you spend time not eating.

It should come as no surprise, that I'm still not motivated enough to actually start dieting again. But you've motivated me enough to remind me I've been meaning to create this program, and to make me want to do it. It won't take long, and when it's done, of course I'll have to test it. My hope is that even after testing it, I'll still be compelled to use it by pride in having made it, and, in both cases -- testing and continued use after that -- using it will finally motivate me to diet just like other fitness apps used to.

I know it probably sounds stupid, but stupid's where I'm at right now, stupid's better than nothing, and even if it's less efficient than the alternatives I have a mental blockage against, stupid will work.

>Trackers help me care, but I come to resent them and stop using them
why tho?

Dunno, but I bet it won't happen with this one. Can't stay mad at something you made yourself.

Go for it dude. It sounds like you really need something to look forward to working on when you wake up, and this idea of yours is a perfect fit.

you better hope you dont get loose skin then

So I officially lost 20 pounds in a month, I'm pretty happy about it. I'm still considered overweight but I'm going to keep chugging along

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let's go nigga

Getting close to the 100 kg line, gonna celebrate with a bag of candy when I get there

I've effectively integrated eggs and chicken into my (mostly) daily diet. What's next? Cottage cheese?

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no candy, fatty

Sounds fake as fuck unless you're a fucking whale

different user but I am losing close to a pound a day doing omad, it is possible

i quit drinking and started tracking calories four weeks ago. i've also been lifting three days a week and doing a little bit of cardio. i know things are going to slow down because there was probably a lot of water weight in the initial loss, but i'm feeling optimistic. i'm 5'11" and aiming to get down to 175.

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I was 261 now I'm 241

been doing that omad diet and cutting off soda/snacks/sugar completely and hitting the gym Monday to friday

my bad forgot to tag

you're trying to lose 20 lbs, just count calories and you'll be done in 2 months.

don't measure yourself every day, it takes time.

lucky trips, don't squander them

Weigh yourself multiple times a day to get a better understanding of how your actions affect your weight. There's a ton of reasons for it to go up and down and you may not always be weighing yourself in the same state.
For example, something as simple as taking a shower causes me to gain 0.4lbs every time from getting wet.

if you really consider being fat and lonely and stuffing your face with pizza (something you'll come to realise isn't even that good) to be enjoyable, you have bigger problems.
not that anyone really does think that. it's pure cope.

>i don't see the connection between a measure of how much energy i get from eating something and a measure of chemical energy stored in that piece of food
this is obviously the delusional ketard. you're being a pedantic cunt, go back to smelling your own farts

Fuckk I want pizza so bad I feel so drained from yesterday's workout :(

Kidneys/liver being assholes again, it'll go be patient stay hydrated

share it if you make it, per-second tracking sounds like it would suit me perfectly. it'd be so cool to see it ticking up.

As a 5'4" turbomanlet, I used to be really lean and looked pretty damn good.
Problem with being a manlet is if you're even a little bit overweight you start to look chonky.
If you're a lot overweight like I am now, it's a bad, bad look.
Get lean, get fit, and who cares about the stuff you can't control.

>No one is concerned. I shouldn't be eating this much, I know it, they know it, no one cares.
>There's no support, no one believes in you, no one wants you to become a better person.
100% true. No one is going to give a shit about you, no one ever will. Or me. That's life, bro. On top of which, if you don't give a shit about your own self, it's really juvenile to think anyone else is going to care, either.
Stop lying to yourself, have some discipline, and fix your shit. If you really didn't care at all, you wouldn't be here on /fat./
You've really only got 2 options:
>Get your shit together, or kill yourself with pizza.
Both are really sucky, but in different ways.

True, I remember a guy in high school who was a little shorter than me and he looked like an actual fucking sphere.

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>tfw sick of candy,cakes,pastries,pizzas etc
>thought of eating one makes me sick
>litterally 24/7 i have the urge to eat pizza hut wings.
I usually buy some every two weeks (wont eat anything else that day)
How do i get rid of this addiction?
Im thinking of just buying a shit load of them wings and gorging myself till im sick of em

some ice cream in the freezer, but it cost a fortune so I'm probably gonna eat it over a long ass period

The reason you decided to make a change is still gonna be there.
If you don't do something it's gonna pester you forever, so the bigger evil is pretty obvious when you think about it.

Guys why does plain greek yogurt taste like ass

I'm drinking Coke and eating pizza, but I'm not fat. Is that ok?

>plain

no, you in denial faggot

It was my wife's decision. What's better? Vanilla?

>Im thinking of just buying a shit load of them wings and gorging myself till im sick of em
Completely retarded idea. Try not buying them at all. I don't know why anyone trying to break a habit or a craving thinks that feeding the habit is the way to do it.

i told you to at least put granola in it you dirty negro

SOMEONE explain to me right fucking now why 50/50 fat/protein made me feel fine and 75/25 fat/protein makes me hungry ASF, my stomach is nagging the shit out of me.

If you hate it plain, then it will take so much sugar to "fix" the taste that is not even worth eating at that point. I don't like greek yogurt either, and I've tried a ton of flavors and brands.

I'm going to be getting sushi after work because I'm sick of only eating eggs and spinach

Are you me?