Do i look like shit?

Maybe proper wasn't the best word
At 6ft5 240 lbs, 400g carbs, 220 protein and 125 fats
Never ate or drank any crap

>I did a bodyweight program
Christ im sorry you wasted your time user.

But i chose to abandon the bodyweight path and im on SS now, is this a good program?

Pick up heavy objects and set them back down.
>6 ft 5 240 pounds btw
You're lying. I'm a skinny 6'4" guy at 190, and I am bigger than you.

Weights me boy
There's a reason why you're not building mass

>You're lying. I'm a skinny 6'4" guy at 190, and I am bigger than you.
Holy fuck are you me? I was gonna say the same. Im exactly that!

It's possible, my weight is still mostly fat
Why would I lie about it

>bodyweight program
O I am laffin

In my opinion you are eating too much protien and carbs, try cutting down on the carbs and protein, you might be able to reduce bodyfat, while making slow gains if you train properly

Yes, do ss. And push yourself to the limit everyday. Ironically because you spent 6 months training a little bit you're going to have quicker progress because you'll be less sore than starting from scratch so you can push harder earlier on. So don't get discouraged at losing 6 months.

you can do ss and make decent progress, however there are way better programs if youre concerned with upper body development

I agree with this somewhat, but building muscle and cutting fat is the hardest route to go, not to say it can't be done but it'll slow your gains potential if you're going for short term max noobie gains. And you're diet will be very limited and strict. Depends on what you want user.

Not op but fellow bone man.
How are you supposed to find that balance though? Like I can bench maybe 5kg more than I usually aim to do for my sets but I run the risk of getting stuck, form deteriorating ect. What do you suggest to be able to go harder?
More sets, more reps? Even then sometimes I feel like I'm going to get stuck (it's happened a couple of times before so I'm scared of it).
I feel like the problem is more my arms simply can't lift the weight (60kg) rather than me not wanting to do it but I may be wrong.

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I guess I was a fool for thinking i could look better than this with bodyweight
I hope ss will somewhat patch me up by july if i work hard enough
Thanks bros, I feel better now

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You'll look better if you shave your chest and abs.

Lift slower and more controlled. Remember it's about time under tension. Lift that 5kg less than your max bench 5sec up 5sec down for 5×5 and you'll feel a difference.

Post body. Op looks like he weighs 240 to me. He's wide, slightly chubby and tall.

You can roll out of bench or get a spotter. You are probably ego lifting. Drop some weight if you can't properly lift it for the entirety of the set and focus on volume.

Not the guy you're replying to but i'm 6'4" 196lbs. He looks fat but not 240 fat even with the extra inch of height.
Also not a lifter so I know I look like shit, just skeptical of OPs description.

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OP here
My legs are pretty thicc also

True that!
There is no shame in doing the roll of shame.

You might be eating the right stuff, but it looks like youre not eating enough of it

Ops shoulders and chest look like twice as wide as yours

Angles and zoom are a bitch ain't they?

>he did bodyweight for 6 months
>now he is going to do ss
This surely is bait

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Shoulderlet cope

Train shoulders harder

>That mirror

Imagine being a fully grown man living in his own filth. That is fucking disgusting. Clean up after yourself you manchild pig

Possibly, I won't lie, I can rep 245lbs on bench but can barely rep 105lbs ohp. Do you're worst. I deserve to be ridiculed for this.

I don't get it. All these 6'+ people are greater than 180 but I can't break 165 @ 6'4". How many calories do you guys eat?

He actually fell for the calisthenics meme...

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That's great pals, thanks.
I was already taking it a little lighter to do them properly but it makes sense what you say about time under load. It's just I have this friend who benches 2.75 plate and he does his reps way faster that I usually do so I thought I was doing them too slow.
Am I allowed to breathe at the top of the rep though? I feel more comfortable pushing against a full chest I'm holding rather than exhaling on the way up. I just feel like I do them wrong since I do my reps slower than everyone else I see in the gym and take a breath at the top.

You're going to get a heart disease if you keep mixing that many carbs with fat, either do a low carb diet or low fat diet (and pay the consequences for it since we're supposed to be carnivores).

how many pull ups or dips can you do?

dont do ss, do something that has a lot of upper body volume

Don't worry about your friend, he's got his own completely different set of issues to deal with plateues at his level.
As far as breathing goes, yes take a breath and while pushing out control your exhale and breath in at the top of your rep.

Arms look okay, but
>Not a lifter
>on Jow Forums
You better have a very good reason, user.

>do you're worst
>do you are worst
Fucking right about being ridiculed, user.

Im also doing exclusively bodyweight and Im getting good results, the problem is your diet and bodyfat

I'll give you a one piece of advise boyo.
1) Do not do what they tell you on reddit. That place is full of people who don't know shit but if you ask them anything they'll talk about it as if they've got a Phd in the subject. Whenever you get some sort of advise there about any topic just ignore it

I could do 3 sets of 15 dips
3 sets of 5 chinups
The pushing progressed faster

Trying to one day be one.
With a body like mine you can't tell people you are a lifter and not be a huge faggot poser. So no, not a lifter, and is there such a thing as a good excuse for being on Jow Forums?

I'm not going to tell you to avoid a gym because you're going to have to do it eventually, but you can get a good amount bigger than that doing bw shit. As someone who did the reddit routine, just drop all the skill work and 'hold' shit unless you just really want to be able to do a handstand. I eventually just went into a 6day/wk push/pull/abs schedule where I do a quick warmup then 3x12 weighted dips 3 times, 3x12 weighted pull ups 3 times then 3x12 dragon flags and pistol squats. Ill usually throw in another 3 sets of a lesser exercise if I have time as well. The only thing you're truly fucked on is legs, all bw leg exercises are trash.

Did I see something about a handstand in that post? Fucking christ!!! I just did abs you asshole, I can't laugh that hard right now.

Routine?

>dont do ss, do something that has a lot of upper body volume
Examples for fucks sake

For fucks sake, OP, literally any weight routine would get you better results than that, but just do PHUL, some form of PPL, or PHAT, if you can go 5 days /week

Compared to who? Compared to the version of you that's been working out for two years? Yeah you look like shit. Compared to the you that never want to the gym and just got fatter every year? You look amazing

is 531 beginner legit for a noob with past lifting experience? thefitness.wiki/routines/5-3-1-for-beginners/ I'm 194cm at 89kg

For heavy weights, hold your breath the whole rep and breathe at the top.

Start by taking a DEEP belly breath. Breathe into tour stomach and fill it up starting from the bottom to the top. Press your gut out like you're trying to look pregnant. Take as much air as you can, then take more. Then take even more. Then more. Once you're 100% full, brace your abs like you're trying to pop your belt off. Do the whole rep then breathe at the top. Then repeat.

Watch Brian Alsruhes video on bracing, highly recommended

where the fuck are your delts

I'll be honest, not too great, but the thing is, some people start off slowly than other, but once the rocket is launch, there is no stopping. See the improvements, even the small ones, and persevere.

>All that body weight hatred ITT
If you think body weight is for sissy you're not challenging yourself enough. Try true one handed push up, pistol squats, one handed pull up first.

It's not impossible to look good with bodyweight but you've got to do way more than those who just lift normally. Also if you're not doing at least 60 pull ups per day, or at least every other day, you're wasting your time.

>3 sets of 5 chinups after six months
Bruv you should be exceeding ten after the first month. You may not get ten on the next set but you still need to push yourself with that exercise.

Are you the guy who said he didn't lift? But you can bench over 2pl8 for reps? B8 or cringe tier humble bragging?

Pick up some weight you loser

Yes, you look like shit. You're doing something wrong. No way that's 6 months. If I was training you there would be some visible difference after 3 months. I'm assuming you didn't used to be fat right?

Do you have a before picture?

Also 6'5" 240. Down from 265 working toward 225. Anyone got a bf estimate?

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uou dont look bad but you need to hit it hard im talking add 5-10 pounds to what you usually do right now and add 30 more minutes to what you usally work out for

based 6'4 poster. I'm 6'6 doing a hard cut down to 210 from 256 and it blows

18-20%

6 months of jerking off, maybe. You lack commitment!

what are your current progressions user?
are you working on holds at all?
doing gymnastic training at 6'5" is gonna take way longer to pay off than it would for most people so you should probably try and integrate weights as well
>stevenlow.org/integrating-bodyweight-and-barbell-training/
you could also start using a dip belt or weighted vest

You have some definition starting to show, you aren't going to look like a god in 6 months. Also are you using progressive overload in a resistance training regime or a body weight regiment?

>however there are way better programs if youre concerned with upper body development
such as?

can anybody post what you can ACTUALLY achieve from skinnyfat in 6 months on an actual progressively overloading program?

I am doing ivysuar 448 right now and wondering what i can hope to see in another 5 months, been at it for 1 now

Assuming you could make decent gains with a bodyweight program, I still think you didn't put in enough effort. Either you:

a) weren't following the appropriate progression
b) weren't working out once in a while
c) you had a shitty diet.

Shave your chest you will look better

Also interested in a more chest heavy beginner routine. Doing SL for a month and I did get broader shoulders and better biceps, but the chest is flat.

How can you tell if you are bigger from just a photo of his torso lmfao, I think weight is more than just appearance. I am consistently guessed to be 70kg when I'm actually 77-78kg, and I've seen dudes with really good muscular insertions be about 10-15kg lighter than what I would guess they are too. We are all different.

Female friends started complimenting me on my physique when we went swimming after like 5-6 months of lifting, guys mirin too. I did 5x5 with more some additional dumbbell stuff for chest and shoulders. Abs from time to time. Started out as a complete twink before.

Welcome to natty lifting. I was like you when I first started. Believed all the media hype, "Chris Pratt got absolutely jacked and shredded in only 8 months for guardians of the galaxy"

They lied to us, it's gunna take you 2+ years to get your goal body. Lower your expectations, put your head down and grind.

depends on what you started with. If you were fat, that might be good progress. If you were skinny, I woudl say it's pretty bad, but if your lifts are good, then long term it doesn't matter.
decent enough lifts after 6 months would be
80kg bench 180lbs?
130kg deadlift 300lbs?
and 100kg squat 220lbs

>bodyweight
oh, lol
nvm thast then why are you doing meme stuff? for body weight routine to have any effect, you would have to kill yourself everyday

>I guess I was a fool for thinking i could look better than this with bodyweight

>I could do 3 sets of 15 dips
>3 sets of 5 chinups

you fucked up the routine, you fucked up the nutrition and you fucked up your rest. You done fucked everything up because there's no fucking way that after 6 months of a bw routine these were your stats. Were you just insanely weak to start with? Were you unable to do a single chin up? Did you look way worse when you started?

you just have shit genetics son
either that or you should start taking your traning more seriously.

I was really weak and overweight at 260 pounds. Couldn't get halfway up to a chinup.

Work your shoulders and traps homie

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What is ss?

It's fine, keep going, maybe change your routine a bit if it's lacking. Lifting is a long journey, you won't look like a god in 6 months

Calisthetics is literally cope for people too scared to go to a gym. Everyone you see that looks good and shilling it is roiding, I mean think about it it's a the most "showing off" exercise style with windmills and front levers.

Even if you do martial arts which shill this shit to no end, there is no reason the strength from lifting weights is "fake strength" and calisthetics is "functional strength." Strength is strength.

Nothing wrong with doing bodyweight excercises user! Just make sure you include some weightlifting aswell in your routine. If you have the time and discipline try to go for a PPLPPLx routine.

??
The reddit routine suggests that you warm up with a bunch of planks and do skill work that eventually ends in v-sits and handstands before the actual exercises..

This, I did the r/bwf routine for a few months before realizing it didn’t do jackshit to my skinny fat body, I did some starting strength and it works much better.

Hi not OP but can you elaborate more please. I'm month 2 into lifting and my bench is pretty shitty. E.g. i hit failure after 8 reps on 50kg yesterday. I did 3 sets of 8 and i was feeling chest burn. I could have done more sets with rest though. 50kg is crap but it feels damn heavy for me currently. I'm unsure if i should be doing 6 reps, 8 or 12, number of sets, what to do if i am unable to add more weight for a few weeks plateauing. If i just go to failure my form turns to absolute shit and i just burn out and the next exercise suffers

no way you been going to the gym for 6months, 3 times a week, 2hours each session.

THIS is what you should look like if you been going to the gym for 6months for real.

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If you're lifting to failure in under 10 reps you've got enough weight, I'd say. If you're plateauing try changing your grip or doing a light week.

Twink

His routine or diet has got to be shit, maybe both.