Best martial art for self defense

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

boxing
BJJ
muay thai

which one i have to pick?

I want to start some fight activity so I can become a badass

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Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

The one you enjoy and the one with sparring

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

Go to athletism to learn how to run fast and jump.
Martial arts are for fighting not defending yourself fucling manlet

Sebastian Hughes
Sebastian Hughes

post body

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

Wrastling or frig off

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

Taegundo

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Justin Morgan
Justin Morgan

Muay Thai.

Boxing is too restrictive to the point of being laughable. Muay Thai is literally boxing with as few rules as they can get away with. In a real fight, chances are you'll be blitzed, and that's prime time to use your clinch work and throw elbows and knees.

Mason Ward
Mason Ward

do you want an excuse to cuddle sweaty grown men? If so, BJJ

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Boxing > Muay thai > BJJ

striking is better in a street fight always

Matthew Kelly
Matthew Kelly

Bench pressing, you can push anyone on the ground when good enough

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

this. a friend of mine a fucking bigboy literally destroyed a champion of kickboxing

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

Boxing plus Judo/wrestling/Sambo. That should cover most of what you could encounter in relatively fast order.

But learning to fight to become a badass means you have a higher than average chance to drop out. I've seen that attitude before many times, these people generally don't last.

Charles Price
Charles Price

don't know about that mate, i have a friend who can bench 300lbs and i am a 12-month fresh blue belt in bjj with a weight of 215lbs and when i am on top of him he is done. there is no "oh lol i bench press you off me".

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

Every fights start on the feet, your gay porn isn't fighting

Nicholas Moore
Nicholas Moore

No amount of muscle will teach you how to stay on your feet, especially if you're ambushed by nignogs

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

muay thai probably can keep distance and fuck off in the other direction

i cant think of any situation where you cant just fuck off

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

It's almost as if bjj has takedowns

Dominic Miller
Dominic Miller

Push everyone coming close to your range with your bench pressing training

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

wrestling is the best for this reason man. You can learn how to put your feet on the ground

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

train each for a year and congratulations you can fuck up 99.9% of the population and you have a .1% chance of ever needing it

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

that pic
Why did the photographer focus so much on her uhhhhhh... foot?

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

When I first picked up BJJ after 1.5 years of Judo, I was already taking down most of the higher belts. Then I learned to sprawl properly, and only people with significant crosstraining experience were able to take me down. BJJ takedowns are a meme unfortunately.

t. purple belt

Jose Brooks
Jose Brooks

jokes on you again, i just started mma and bjj to "complete" my abilities. i am already doing muay thai for 5 years now. so i would turn you to rubble on the feet or on the ground.

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

Amazing how noone is talking about her feet
You guys are faggots

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

manlet spotted

Aiden Taylor
Aiden Taylor

*pushes you to the ground*

Asher Campbell
Asher Campbell

I'm 182 cm

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

this.
also, get a gun. it's the only real reliable form of self defense

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

never gonna make it

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

mate I'm not a burger, where I live I can't go out with a gun

Ian Scott
Ian Scott

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Tyler James
Tyler James

Imagine if she forced you to lick them clean after her training session gross haha

Jackson Powell
Jackson Powell

Muay Thai > Boxing. Don't learn ground stuff for self defense. This is coming from someone who has done MMA for 12 years and primarily trains BJJ.

Grappling guys are delusion, the LAST thing you want to do in a SELF DEFENSE situation is close the distance and go to the ground. SELF DEFENSE is different than a SPORT.

The best self defense is situational awareness!

Lincoln Nelson
Lincoln Nelson

Don't listen to anyone that tells you to do a grappling art, like Judo or BJJ. You'll get your brains smashed in.

Do either Boxing, Kick boxing, or Muay Thai. All three are heavily proven in the art of self defense.

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Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

Lanklet cope

Christopher Smith
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Caleb Barnes
Caleb Barnes

Get pepper spray/a weapon, learn situational awareness and train sprints.
Committing years to get good at a martial art on the off chance that you will be able to pull off your moves in some power fantasy is RETARDED.

Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

Capoeira

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

Why is she wearing rings in a contact sport? To bedazzle her opponent as she strikes?

Jason Cox
Jason Cox

You can't flight in every situation. If you are with your wife and a group of niggers attack you, you'd know how to defend yourself and your wife.

Logan Allen
Logan Allen

I'd be a good husband and move us to a first world country where that doesn't happen.

Also I do train martial arts. I'm saying it's stupid to do it just for self defense reasons.

Jose Howard
Jose Howard

What about thai box?

Mason Cooper
Mason Cooper

get a slingshot or a mini crossbow

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

I generally recommend learning at least enough grappling to counter takedowns and escape and get up if you find yourself pinned. Bonus is that a decent throw often means game over.

Brayden Watson
Brayden Watson

Bad things dont happen to good people in good places
Id know Ive lived in suburbia all my life

Julian Brooks
Julian Brooks

boxing doesn't work on the street

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Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

don't even try punching, you'll just break your hand

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Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Are you fucking retarded?

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

Said no one, ever.

Logan Nelson
Logan Nelson

Judo or some wrestling is eniugh

Caleb Morales
Caleb Morales

said here

Austin Ross
Austin Ross

Karate is the most advanced form of self defence. You just need to learn how to apply the knowledge.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

That is how you break your shit

Caleb Robinson
Caleb Robinson

Read the self-defense laws in your area and pick a martial that best fits those. Example, I do brazilian jiu-jitsu. I was golden until choking someone unconscious became a felony in my state 5 or so years ago, so I have to stick to just wrestling so that I don't become the "aggressor."

Charles Moore
Charles Moore

the way he leaned in on that punch
He definitely knew what he was doing

Parker Johnson
Parker Johnson

Based haha poster

Alexander Morales
Alexander Morales

Uh huh...

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

learn self defense or else you'll get pinned down like moot
inb4 who is moot

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Parker Cox
Parker Cox

Am addicted to bjj, can second that. I love to grapple, but holy fuck I don't even want to imagine taking a sucka to the ground on fucking concrete. That shit can hurt like a bitch even on the mat. And don't even get me started on what your skin would look like after tussling on the ground for 15 seconds. Mat burns are a thing, on concrete they would be more like car accident abrasions.

Situational awareness, avoidance, de-escalation techniques, a motherfucking gun, in that order.

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Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

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Cooper Wilson
Cooper Wilson

Muay Thai is good, not to diss on boxing, there is a reason professional boxers aren't allowed to hit normies, but not practicing kicks as well is kinda lame.

Also bring a knife everywhere, or a gun if you can.

Martial arts are useful in that they prepare/accustomed you for violence and you are physically fit, but a knife beats a martial artist any day, let alone a gun.

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

bring a knife everywhere

Can you spell premeditation? Because I guarantee the judge can.

Brayden Collins
Brayden Collins

Take muay thai, it's the best. Bjj is good for mma but you end up fondling other guys balls and feet which is gay. Also starting positions are literal cowgirl and missionary

Tyler Cruz
Tyler Cruz

Go to bar with gf
Drunk guy bumps into me and starts talking shit
Pull out a knife like the weak sissy bitch I am

Boxing, thai, bjj, grappling, all are good enough to beat 99% of guys
If you wanna be special check out filipino dirty boxing

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

Well, what would YOU do to beat multiple black men, while impeding that they leave as much as a scratch on your wife?
Protip: while writing out how you would do it, remember that life isn't an anime.

Jordan Wright
Jordan Wright

I live in Texas, just gotta be able to justify your use of force. Most based state.

Adrian Carter
Adrian Carter

Just pick one as a sport.

Nathaniel Rivera
Nathaniel Rivera

there is a reason professional boxers aren't allowed to hit normies

Nobody is allowed to hit normies user, it's called assault

Cooper Evans
Cooper Evans

Aboxer can kill someone. Normie cant usually.

Nathan Campbell
Nathan Campbell

Why does nobody talk about Kickboxing?

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

Because MT is kickboxing but better

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

Savat is mt except useful in a street fight.

Cameron Hughes
Cameron Hughes

Because we aren't 35+ yo cardiobunnies

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

Bait or retarded?

Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

Imagine the smell

Eli Thomas
Eli Thomas

grappling wins fights but only in one-on-one. If they've got a friend or a weapon then you're absolutely right. Ideally, one should be proficient at both striking and grappling, if only so you can keep fighting when someone tries to grab or tackle you.

Sebastian Lewis
Sebastian Lewis

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Sebastian Gutierrez
Sebastian Gutierrez

knives are pretty fucking awful as SD weapons man. It's hard to inflict an immediately debilitating injury and there's always the chance it can be turned on you.

Guns have the same problem, except they're a little better at immediately wounding vital organs and much better in that you don't have to get be so close to shoot somebody that they can try to grab it from you. I'm aware guns aren't an option for most people, just stating the obvious.

Jeremiah Brown
Jeremiah Brown

Guns have the same problem
What in the fuck are you talking about?

Jace Butler
Jace Butler

Grappling doesn't even guarantee a win in a 1 to 1 and puts you in position for all sorts of bad shit to happen to you. Like a knife

Levi Hall
Levi Hall

guns are a meme in most of these flash in a pan situation
i own a gun and can't lie that i dream of that there clint eastwood threatening three nig nogs to save some azn qt in the hood but some of the time you don't even have time to whip your rooty tooty out
just learn some bit about deescalation, there's no harm in running away from a fight

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

That a gun can be grabbed and turned against you, or at the very least taken away from you, in a fight. Not that it's absolutely going to, but it's a possibility. Hence why you generally don't want to let someone get close to you if you're pointing a gun at them.

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

the one the army uses whatever its called.
It just consists of a thousand different ways to cut blood flow to the brain.

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Wyatt Morris
Wyatt Morris

I'm in the same boat as you man. Deescelation and situational awareness are absolutely key. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that. All I was trying to say is that knives make for pretty shitty self defense tools.

Jonathan Lewis
Jonathan Lewis

Gun fu.

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

belt colors aren't standardized by anything so the color is irrelevant.

Gavin Long
Gavin Long

It's called Gunkata user.
Look up Equilibrium.

Jackson Barnes
Jackson Barnes

If you're ambushed by nignogs NO MATTER how good you're BJJ is you will DIE on the ground.

You put the 1 guy on the ground in a keylock and have several size 11 to 16 boots stomping on your head.

Want to be safe from nogs? Move to an all white country.

Isaac Ward
Isaac Ward

learn how to throw a punch, take one, kick, perform and break a chokehold, and you might as well learn to break an armbar because faggots are all about mma. then get a gun and learn how to use that.

Daniel Butler
Daniel Butler

Obviously krav maga

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Camden Lee
Camden Lee

as a black belt (1st) in krav maga, i can say its a great system but highly situational
mixing krav maga with muay thai and bjj will produce the deadliest and most versatile system

Benjamin Jenkins
Benjamin Jenkins

A white world class wrestler was beaten to death by a white striker in an all white country not to long ago.

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

If for self defence, just do muay thai mixed with wrestling/sambo/judo.
The guard's biggest weakness is leaving the balls right open to damage. No rules protecting yourself.

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

belt system in krav maga
Nice McDojo you have there bud.

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

As long as it's poking people in the eyes, and kicking them in the balls, it's good.

Noah Scott
Noah Scott

I've done both boxing and muay thai and I gotta say this is one of the most retarded statements I've seen on this board. Bravo

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

So Jiu-Jitsu?

Robert Campbell
Robert Campbell

reminds me of Tim Ferris
enters kickboxing tournament with no training
rule says if you push the opponent over 3 times, you win
he just pushes them over 3 times

youtube.com/watch?v=ODoVqXgblyw

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

its literally the original organization, in israel
lmao

Henry Johnson
Henry Johnson

Yes, to distract them until she can pin them down and milk their cocks with her feet

Juan Moore
Juan Moore

Muay Thai is the most brutal and effective. I can destroy anyone with one strike. God mode.

Josiah Long
Josiah Long

Martial arts are useless for self-defense.

Striking puts you at a disadvantage if you're smaller or weaker, there is no guarantee that you can knock somebody out and you could go to jail or get sued if you do knock somebody out and they die.

Grappling
Can't deal with multiple attackers. You will always go to the ground. LOL

Weapons.
Somebody can take your weapons from you or you can get to your weapons in time.

I guess either die, runaway, or don't go to places where somebody will beat your ass.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

Grappling beats striking one on one. Street fights are rarely one on one. Your Muay Thai experience goes to shit if a BJJ black belt has brought you to the ground, but your BJJ black belt goes to shit if the guy you're fighting has a friend with a stick. If you want to defend yourself in day to day life, carry a weapon and learn how to use it. If you lived in a cucked area and can't carry a weapon, just learn whatever techniques are necessary to get you out of danger so you can run away. If you can't run away, like if you're with your family and they need your help, then train MMA centered around practical self defense from a reputable instructor in your area.

More than 99% of people have never trained for any form of combat, they're typically just winging it. This means that even a beginner in just about any art that's been stress tested can win every street fight they could end up in, or otherwise escape with their lives. This even goes for styles which armchair fighters on Jow Forums say are completely useless, like traditional boxing or karate.

tl;dr Just about anything works on untrained people well enough for you to run away

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Jason Walker
Jason Walker

the chance that 2 skilled martial artists get involved in a fight on the street is very very slim. me and all of the fighters i know aren't looking for a fight, we are doing that in the gym, where it belongs.

Joshua Collins
Joshua Collins

This, or just buy a dagger and learn to use it effectively

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

kicking with the foot
enjoy your fractured foot stupid bitch

also
1 grappling
1 striking

i do BJJ mainly with wrestling and muay thai on the side

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

Grappling beats striking one on one.
BJJ has the absolute worst take down of any grappling art you can name
Not even stealing the take downs of actually tested and vetted grappling martial arts can fix BJJs weakness.
You are at best going to be able to hold your own against someone of similar strength or weaker then you. But since everyone is told that anyone can do bjj and take down much stronger opponents because of skill and what not, most bjj guys are soft and don't train strength effectively.

Kayden James
Kayden James

BJJ has the absolute worst take down of any grappling art you can name
I disagree. I think what you've seen is that a lot of BJJ practitioners spend too much time practicing purely BJJ starting from the ground and as such don't put enough effort into takedowns.

But since everyone is told that anyone can do bjj and take down much stronger opponents because of skill and what not, most bjj guys are soft and don't train strength effectively.
First of all, proper BJJ technique IS very good at compensating for a difference in size or strength. If you tried it, you would know this. Secondly, the practicality of a martial art says nothing about the competency of the practitioner. You can't say BJJ is bad because in your opinion too many BJJ practitioners aren't strong.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

You can't name a single grappling art with worse take downs then BJJ...okay.

Lastly, BJJ is not good for compensating for shit. It allows someone weaker to put up a bit of a fight against someone who's actively not trying to murder them and that's about it.
It's nice to know SOMETHING but it's actually a terrible martial art for self defense for the average person or for someone who will be in a place where they will have to watch their back or can't fully control the situation and need to keep their feet.

Juan Johnson
Juan Johnson

based karatebro

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

You can't name a single grappling art with worse take downs then BJJ...okay.
Watch one Judo match and count how many times they leave their neck or back open to their opponent.

It allows someone weaker to put up a bit of a fight against someone who's actively not trying to murder them and that's about it.
Sick unsubstantiated claim bro, call me back when you've got an argument or something. I have personal experience that demonstrates BJJ's ability to overcome size or strength disparity, you have "nuh uh, no it's not cuz I say so".

but it's actually a terrible martial art for self defense
Oh wow, unsubstantiated claim combo'd into undefined terms, fucking sick. Look guy, I already said it's bad for street fights and explained my reasoning. Don't say dumb shit, then when it gets pointed out as dumb shit shift the goal posts until you can pretend we're not disagreeing.

Leo Bennett
Leo Bennett

You will always go to the ground.
T. Has no fucking clue about grappling and gets all his ideas from fucking BJJ

Daniel Howard
Daniel Howard

BJJ has better standup and takedowns than judo
people doing a shoulder throw totally never works
You should probably be drinking less kool-aid, blowjob jitsu user

Blake Turner
Blake Turner

fuck off jew trying to sell ur dogshit martial arts

Jaxson Wood
Jaxson Wood

Are you fucking retarded?
Are you stating that BJJ which is a trash derivative(since it took out all of the catch wrestling that made it at least a complete martial art) has better takedown the Proper Judo? The thing it's ripped from and only uses the ground version of?

Are you out of your tiny goddamned mind?

Juan Ross
Juan Ross

Shotokan striking is god tier.

Lincoln Howard
Lincoln Howard

if someone hasnt been leg kicked before theyre in for a nasty surprise if someone serious about MT smashes their leg at knee level. same thing for boxing. they are sports though just get a gun.

Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

Judo is the best

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

This looks like a pic a footfag high school student would convince a female friend of his to pose for, for a "school project".

Asher Wilson
Asher Wilson

How do i kick properly? I know the basics of punching, but not kicking, what are the different kicks used for? Which is the most useful?

William Lewis
William Lewis

sounds like you're speaking from experience

Andrew Powell
Andrew Powell

No, actually. I'm not unethical enough to trick girls into feet pics.

Eli Jenkins
Eli Jenkins

7 years of BJJ several times a week, if that is more clear.

Easton Ward
Easton Ward

Be a boxer
get blitzed
hug the guy until the ref separates you

muay thai
get blitzed
can grab on to the guy around the head and pin him to you
kick him anywhere with knees
can throw elbows

?

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

This. None of it matters if you're going to quit in a month because you don't like it.

Moreover, people get started in martial arts for "self defense." But by the time you're good enough to beat most untrained people 99% of the time you're already going just because you like the fight.

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

unironically the last thing you want to use in a real fight are fists and ONLY fists.

elbows, shins, and knees are definitely superior because you won't break your shit as easy.

Caleb Morales
Caleb Morales

life threatening situation
omg mat burn owie owie concreate

Chase King
Chase King

Can you show me a video of a mt guy fighting his way out of an altercation.or one with multiple people

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

I got a few cuts on my knee tossing a guy to the ground in a gravel parking lot. You're not going to notice the pain until after the fights over.

Aiden Roberts
Aiden Roberts

youtu.be/2dcUF-O96iI

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

m8, the average boxer v group video is some guy preemptively attacking everyone before they can react, which any striker can do.

Any real fight where it's multiple people actively fighting you at the same time is a loss.

Connor Cox
Connor Cox

I'd give it to Judo. You're at a disadvantage if you find yourself boxing or on the ground, but Judo gives you a good chance at ending the fight just as it starts. People overlook this a lot. A lot of BJJ guys get whipped in bar fights just because they're never in a position to capitalize on their skills.

Aiden Cook
Aiden Cook

grappling
and then running

Wing Chun if you are dedicated.

Isaiah Thompson
Isaiah Thompson

BJJ for self-defense is legitimate but shouldn't be a primary, obviously.

It's just a great thing to have as an option when you need it. Plus it's great to restrain someone without giving them a concussion.

Nicholas Edwards
Nicholas Edwards

youtu.be/P_dW8q6YqZI

Not him but here you go

Luis Brown
Luis Brown

being this fucking retarded

Aaron Powell
Aaron Powell

I studied it briefly this Spring.

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Parker Brown
Parker Brown

What martial art for someone with bad foot work because of a nerve damaged left leg? I can't pick my foot up all the way when I walk so I'm prone to tripping.

inb4 gun
Im not entirely sure i could pass a background check

Jacob Baker
Jacob Baker

Care to explain why?

Dude, in boxing you can't even throw a spinning back fist. You retards have such a dumb limited striking system.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith

wing chun doesn't work though

Henry Ross
Henry Ross

neither do I
my life's ambition is to have boatloads of sex

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

what a dumb post

Jack Gutierrez
Jack Gutierrez

I didn't say BJJ has better standup, I said Judo takedowns are designed for Judo matches. There are a lot of weaknesses you aren't allowed to capitalize on in the sport, and as such they never get closed.

Here's a hot tip to debating, simply exaggerating what someone said and repeating it in the form of a question isn't an argument. BJJ teaches you to protect your neck, Judo teaches you to not worry about your neck because choking doesn't score points. Just saying it's a "trash derivative" doesn't actually mean anything.

Are you out of your tiny goddamned mind?
Calm down, buddy. If you lose your cool at some text, I don't know how you'd survive a fight.

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

I don't think you're capable of discourse without resorting to insult.

Luke White
Luke White

Judo teaches you to not worry about your neck because choking doesn't score points.

lol, get a load of this fucking guy. Tap outs from a choke hold end the match you retard. Maybe don't talk about shit you're completely ignorant of.

Ryan Robinson
Ryan Robinson

Everything works if you're good enough at doing it.

youtube.com/watch?v=BKShRpHwBUs

Leo Clark
Leo Clark

I think combat sport is the antithesis of self defense but it's nice to see everything represented lmao

Matthew Bailey
Matthew Bailey

I guess we've been watching different matches. If I'm wrong about that, which I may be, then I suppose Judo leaving your neck as open as it does makes even less sense. I only ever see Judo throws used against other Judo practitioners in full Gi.

Xavier Morales
Xavier Morales

I'm willing to bet you're not watching any matches and just regurgitating dumb shit you heard from other people you shitter.

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

Oh, and while we're at it

youtu.be/0WjN8iuRk3o

Fuck off, white belt.

Camden Myers
Camden Myers

What martial art should a manlet such as myself learn?
I was thinking of learning parkour to be able to fuck off more efficiently,but if for some reason I dont have that option,what could I learn?

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Jose Collins
Jose Collins

Parkour 911 krav maga...this is the west not brazil

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

You and others just keep saying variations of "you're wrong" without actually explaining how.

Forgive me, I should have been clearer. I was talking with someone earlier in the thread who was saying that Judo shoulder throws work just fine while I was saying that they have a flaw in that they largely give the opponent your back and leave your neck open. That's what I'm talking about.

BJJ is an evolution of Judo, so a lot of techniques are taught in both. A lot of the techniques shown in the video you linked also apply in BJJ, and the shoulder throws that I was talking about earlier are only shown twice against opponents in compromised positions. My point earlier was that these are far from optimal in self defense situations, not that they are impossible in MMA competitions.

Carson Campbell
Carson Campbell

imagine is she pinned you down and

Ryan Stewart
Ryan Stewart

It's hard to inflict an immediately debilitating injury

That's what everyone thinks until they get stabbed in the face.

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

participating in these fucking threads on this fucking board
You're just asking for trouble. Short answer is boxing. Keep your feet under you, hit man in face, keep mobile so you don't get swarmed by man's friends, already in position to fuck off ASAP. Pipebomb strongest martial art.

Daniel Young
Daniel Young

How to break your foot and tear tendons in your ankle in one easy lesson!

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

Muay thai with some judo of jujitsu on the side make you a great fighter. Muay thai is the best striking and probably the best one you could use on the street against multiple people. 1v1 then any grappling works

Brandon Davis
Brandon Davis

You literally tried to say that chokes don't count in judo competition. You have no idea what you're talking about. How is that not enough explanation? But if you want more here you go. You're not giving your back up when you do a turning throw because your opponent is going through the air when it happens. Dont fuck up the throw and your back is safe. Moreover, if it was so easy to choke someone out after attempting a throw you would have seen it in all those judo matches you didnt actually watch.

By the way, the shoulder throw when executed properly doesn't expose your neck because their arm isn't actually on your shoulder it's trapped between your bicep and forearm. This is white belt level shit. And guess what? If the opponent failed to trap the arm properly there are counters to the throw using fucking chokeholds. Ever heard of a fucking clock choke? That's a part of the system.

youtu.be/ys3K8FTogAE

God I hate know it all white belts.

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Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

This is the best of a bad situation fellow /asp/ie

Our day will come

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Gavin Nelson
Gavin Nelson

I don't know why you feel so compelled to argue a point I already explicitly explained I'm not making. It just sounds like you're really mad and want to win an argument regardless, and I'm not going to engage that further.

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

says something retarded
gets called a retard
"a bloo bloo that's not even what I meant why are you so mean"

Fuck off then retard

Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

choking doesn't score points
Shoo shoo retard

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

Anything grappling is good for manlets mate

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

the 90% of Wing Chun schools who half-ass it don't prepare you for real life scenarios

ftfy bruh. Admittedly it's pretty shit-tier for sports fighting (which seems to be the only way people quantify things nowadays) and there are better striking systems out there but it's still fucking decent in terms of real-world applications if you actually apply yourself (admittedly the biggest stumbling block for the lazy and feckless armchair warriors) and don't fall for the McDojo horseshit

Caleb Anderson
Caleb Anderson

35+ yo cardiobunnies are my fetish. Should I start taking a kickboxing class?

Julian Ramirez
Julian Ramirez

I said Judo takedowns are designed for Judo matches. There are a lot of weaknesses you aren't allowed to capitalize on in the sport, and as such they never get closed

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Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

Protip: if a style cant hold up under best case scenarios (see: sport fighting), why the fuck would be more MORE effective in a worse situation?

Inb4 muh 2dedly eye poke

Jacob Ramirez
Jacob Ramirez

How has nobody mentioned Krav Maga yet? It's the most "real" martial art by far.

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

BJJ is an evolution of Judo
user, BJJ is just the ground portion of Judo done poorly with NOTHING from the stand up portion of Judo added.

BJJ is nortious for having shit stand up and take down. And there's a reason for that.
It's because BJJ was once a nice add on to fucking catch wrestling that helios father and uncle were tryign to create a complete martial art out of.

But helio was a faggot and didn't want that.
And even after he was outright fucking EMBARASSED by both the Judoka they STOLE their shit from and A catch wrestler(who they fucking later crippled because they were that goddamend wrecked and embarassed by the overwhelming ass whopping he put on them) they still kept on keeping on with their incomplete toy martial art.

Liam Jones
Liam Jones

Sport fighting isn't a best case scenario.

user, to make any ridiculous martial art work, you'll have to know how to fight first.
Most martial arts don't teach you how to fight so much as they teach you how to react in physical altercations or how to play a game.

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

Best goy

Jack Powell
Jack Powell

Just posted the same thing in the other thread, but incase you're not the same person:

Regardless of how you feel about the jooz, Krav Maga is the only martial art that involves guns, knives, and basically disabling an opponent as fast as possible. there's not "sport" about it.

Brayden Martin
Brayden Martin

Muay Thai is the coolest.

Aiden Moore
Aiden Moore

It's the best case scenario as its vs one opponent of a similar size and weight in a well lit, open space.

If your shit doesn't work in that context how the fuck is it going to do better in an alley against 3 niggers?

All chink shit is terrible. Xu xiaodong is proving that one LARPer at a time. I particularly enjoyed him kicking the shit out of a direct student of ip man.

Austin Cooper
Austin Cooper

hur uhr knifes forb pussyss

thats your complaint? thats stupid as fuck. Id argue knifes are terrible because its going to be messy and horrific and you still might get hurt, a gun to the head will usually stop any situation instantly

Justin Price
Justin Price

chu say about karate wite boi?

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Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

insecure about your sexuality much?

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

Krav Maga is the only martial art that involves guns, knives, and basically disabling an opponent as fast as possible. there's not "sport" about it.

So badass! Except that "training" krav maga doesn't involve sparring and the trainer will be some fat dirty Jew out for your shekels.

It's one benefit is segregating the trenchcoat and fedora crowd away from the real martial arts.

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

I can say things without backing them up too. I fucked your mother, she paid me to do it too. She said she wanted another kid because you were such a fucking embarrassment.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

You seem to be conflating 'worse' with 'different'

Speaking from anecdotal but highly relevant experience as an amateur Judoka, the difference between the first time getting my ass handed to me at regional championships and the shock and sheer debilitation of the first time getting O-Goshi'd onto solid concrete by a dude whom I had reasonable belief wanted to put me in a fucking hospital is like the difference between getting turned down for high school prom and finding out your wife of 15 years has become an e-celeb for making bestiality porn with your beloved rescue pup Alsatian whom you adopted to help you both cope with a tragic miscarriage

Daniel Clark
Daniel Clark

Also just some bullshit designed to train civilians who get into mandatory service into soldiers capable of defending themselves as soon as possible, thus the philosophy of being agressive and ruthless so there's no room for fear or overthinking.

Krav Maga is mostly propaganda, you can learn all that shit elsewhere and be better off.

Jonathan Gomez
Jonathan Gomez

Yeah tell us all about how your grappling and mt helped you beat the mythical three evil niggers in an alleyway.
No?
Okay, you have to know how to fight to make any martial art work.
That's all there is to it.
Someone who can fight can make even a shit martial art work.
Ever noticed something about all of those guys in those martial arts flicks who are always the man and are better at the martial art then everyone else?
Yeah, they're fighters.
They can fight.
They can fight using the martial art.
Plenty of boxers and mma guys who can get handled by brawlers who've been in a lot of scrapes user.

And yeah, i've heard of that guy.
Who's doing the gods work by exposing those frauds who were lionized by the chinese government after they killed off all of the actually good martial art styles.
Lots of people who practice martial arts but don't actually know how to fight are around adn ripping people off and building up a big name for themselves.

Grayson Cook
Grayson Cook

I don't have to back up shit.
Everything in my post if verifiable fact.
Anyone here can do a 5 second google search and check it out themselves.

Gabriel Lewis
Gabriel Lewis

I hope this isnt the same retard

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

amazing quote, humorously accurate

Aiden Russell
Aiden Russell

move us to a first world country where that doesn't happen.
name a country like this

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

I don't have to back up shit.
k

Ayden Parker
Ayden Parker

What was incorrect or a lie.

I'll wait.

Isaiah Evans
Isaiah Evans

Japan

Matthew Moore
Matthew Moore

yeah me neither usually I just tell them to send them to me and they do

Colton Martin
Colton Martin

Not the one that teaches you to connect with the top of your foot like that. Good way to break your shit.

Ryder Walker
Ryder Walker

It's super common in tkd due to the scoring system unfortunately. The high level tournaments have sensors like fencing. If the sensor on your instep makes contact with the sensor on the chest pad its a point. Even is local shit its more common due to the slap from the instep connecting with the chest pad being more likely to get noticed by the corner judges.

It always struck me as dumb and dangerous so i did the relevant kicks with the ball of my foot. Dont need corner judges when you nail them in the liver with the ball of your foot

Hunter Rogers
Hunter Rogers

Google where the kimura choke came from.

Kayden Ross
Kayden Ross

If your dumbass honestly thinks that a regular street fight will give you enough opportunity to be clinching and throwing elbows of all things then you deserve to be laying on the concrete for being the dipshit you are.

Liam Ramirez
Liam Ramirez

kimura
choke

Landon Long
Landon Long

Gun Gone Bang

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

All the shit I think is until proven otherwise. Prove I didn't fuck your mother.

Jonathan Nguyen
Jonathan Nguyen

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Jonathan Barnes
Jonathan Barnes

I just carry an air strike laser designator.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

Do you look good? That's the only way girls would just send feet pics like that.

Kevin Watson
Kevin Watson

Can someone explain something to me? What is the actual dividing line between martial arts outside of their respective sport organizations? If you consider yourself a Jiu-Jitsu practitioner, but learn some Greco-Roman moves and incorporate them with what you already know, why don't those techniques become Jiu-Jitsu techniques too then? How can one martial art be better than another when they're just an arbitrary grouping of techniques than can be spliced together? Moreover, why don't all martial arts practitioners/teachers abandon techniques for better ones from other/newer arts when they come along and just incorporate them?

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Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

Bjj and judo have done that constantly over the years. A decent amount of judo techniques kano straight up stole from western wrestling manuals, a notable example being kata guruma/fireman's carry (which has since been banned thanks to the based ijf retards).

It's far less common among pajama dancers because MUH PURE ANCIENT CHINESE SECRETS and shit.

I mean fair enough for styles which are literally cultural preservation like tenjin jujutsu and the like but it seems retarded for styles which compete. The usual argument is "but if we do x we'll no longer be y!"

David Scott
David Scott

Wait so if I want to be the most up to date on being a bad motherfucker what should I learn? Jiu-Jitsu and Judo? Does that mean wrestling is obsolete?

Aiden Rivera
Aiden Rivera

Muay Thai and BJJ, with occasional boxing. Don’t forget a well rounded fighter is also going to have weapons training.

Ryder Wright
Ryder Wright

Pretty much anything that does full contact competition will be constantly evolving. Wrestling isn't much of a thing here so i can't comment on it. Pretty much every throw in judo has a huge array of "competition versions" which depart pretty drastically from the traditional version.

Even in boxing with the limited toolset there's a huge amount of variation when you start looking into things like the smash, flicker jab, philly shell, etc.

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

BJJ and muay thai are fun, but too many McDojos. boxing gyms spar after class
this is all anecdotal.

Zachary Thomas
Zachary Thomas

Don't waste your time on bullshit OP.
Learn gun-fu.

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Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

Best martial art for beating nazis or commies in the upcoming 2020 election riots?

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Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

Boxing. Not because it's the best in a fight per se, but it has the best self defense options
punch
avoid getting hit by things
block some stuff
don't lose balance by doing Jean Clod van Dipshit kicks
don't get your ribs kicked into your spleen for trying to roll
footwork allows you to stay standing and run if needed
Other things are nice as long as they're just supplementary.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

What Gi should I get? Are there any that aren't covered in tacky emblems and shit?

Ryan Adams
Ryan Adams

Try karate. The whole basis is self defense. Avoiding a fight in general is the best self defense.

Also Running; could save you from a black man kicking in your skull.

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

Judo or bjj? Judo has regulations for sleeve length/width, etc

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

If by karate you mean enshin, ashihara, daido-juku or seidokaikan. Kyokushin is also worth a mention.

Everything else is pajama dancing.

Caleb Lewis
Caleb Lewis

How do you find authentic krav maga studios run by people that know what they're doing? I've always wanted to learn it, but I'm not sure if the ones in my city are legit. I've been doing Muay Thai in the mean time, but I want to switch over.

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

bjj

Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

Fuji tend to be less obnoxious

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

It only seems that way because the yakuza has a monopoly on crime and police skew statistics to make things look better. Japan doesn't have a high suicide rate because there's a bunch of weebs committing seppuku it's because anytime the cops think they won't be able to solve a murder they rule it a suicide and don't bother investigating.

Brody Hill
Brody Hill

Slight correction, there is a way to do kata gurus without the leg grab. You either grab the belt or just do it one handed

youtu.be/XrNCH3wk56c

Fuck the ijf though. If they had their way judo would be everyone standing in standard sleeve lapel grip trying to osoto or ogoshi eachother.

Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

I remember reading about an ancient Greek general who acknowledged that the presence of skilled and/or famous duelists had little to no effect on the effectiveness of a unit in battle. Working as a team and maintaining your lines is what works in a melee. Most of the people on the Patriot side of those brawls aren't exceptionally good fighters and they're almost always outnumbered. However, they thrash antifa every single time because at the first sign of actual combative resistance antifa breaks their line and runs.

Jason Williams
Jason Williams

You dont. The OG creator of krav was a boxer and a wrestler. Learn boxing and wrestling while also being willing to kick someone in the balls. Congrats, you nowill know "real" krav maga.

Tyler Butler
Tyler Butler

It's not. I lived there for two years and intend to move back permanently. As long as you're not involved with yakuza activities (drugs, gambling, whores) you'll more than likely never even realise they exist.

Here's a fun story: its common practice to hold tables in busy, public areas (see: disneyland/sea) by leaving your phone or bag there while you go order. Good luck doing that anywhere else and expecting your shit to be there when you return.

You know where crime spikes? Around US military bases.

Isaac Diaz
Isaac Diaz

I remember bas rutten talking about MUH 2 DEDLY.

He pointed out that not only could he perform fundamentals far better than 2dedly ninjas but he could also perform groin strikes and eye pokes better as a result.

Connor Jenkins
Connor Jenkins

Turkish oil wrestling

Owen Ross
Owen Ross

This....why go into the hood.
Like has anyone been in a fight here its not brazil or brownsville but small towns suburbs an gay ass cities

Logan Torres
Logan Torres

So do all posters here ...tyrone pablo n ivan dont know what Jow Forums is

Brayden Torres
Brayden Torres

Esp oil wrestling

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

nothiing tops shaolin kungfu bro trust me

Jonathan Wright
Jonathan Wright

Pick all three lmao how's this even a question

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

get these foot niggas outta here

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Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard

the one the army uses whatever its called.It just consists of a thousand different ways to cut blood flow to the brain.

Voting Republican?!?FACT!!!

Julian Perez
Julian Perez

Turkish oil wrestling

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Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

Can't argue with that.

Adrian Scott
Adrian Scott

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Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

PAJAMA WEARIN'

Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

Wrestling still evolves too - any competition sport usually does when someone comes up with something new or the rules change and the metagame adapts accordingly.

Lucas Edwards
Lucas Edwards

bjj

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

That’s the founder of 9gag, right?

John Rogers
John Rogers

Karate is a meme martial art. No one can apply it properly. The techniques drilled in classes are useless and the forms are never used in full contact competitions. A muay thai fighter with 1 year experience could own any karatepleb with twice the experience.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Judo for casual fit + skill. Wrestling for strength training.

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

No one can apply it properly

OK, bud

youtu.be/mY74ziE-rLc
youtu.be/jhUMcYNKVlE

Xavier Bailey
Xavier Bailey

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Ayden Young
Ayden Young

I wish that shit was real, it would be so badass if it were.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

What does one do if they have no experience in martial arts but they NEED to win a fight no matter what because they have no choice.

So far I've got kicking the balls, ripping the ears and gouging the eyes out, anything else?

Jason Rogers
Jason Rogers

obviously very anecdotal but member of uni Thai club comes to train with our karate club, weighs about 10kg more than i, allegedly competes for uni. light sparring sits out cause i keep winding him , most thai fighters i've met are crap do any of you guys actually do a martial art or just watch ufc ?

Oliver Morales
Oliver Morales

People are going to shit on it, but check out 52 blocks.

It literally is prison tested and if something can hold up in a shit hole situation like a prison, it will hold up on the street.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

judo techniques kano straight up stole from western wrestling manuals

citation needed. sounds like some western propaganda.

Jack Morgan
Jack Morgan

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Parker Jackson
Parker Jackson

Karate black belt. Switched to muay thai.

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