I've been lifting for more than a year now but I've started having a lot of kidney stones and renal colics are horrible. The medic told me that they are made of uric acid, so I need to eat less animal protein, which I currently eat a lot of, since that's what I need to build up my muscles. So I have to go semi-vegetarian now, and I was thinking, will I be able to keep lifting? I don't want to be a bodybuilder, but just mantain my gains.
Lifting and vegetarianism?
Cameron Jenkins
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Kayden Hughes
Vegan that shits full of oxalates
>hehe
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Ethan Carter
he's trying to steal ur gainz breh
Joshua Murphy
>Lifting and Vegetarianism?
>Being Straight and Being Gay?
Anthony Perez
VEGANS WILL GO EXTINCT
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:
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Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:
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"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"
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Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:
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"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."
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These next five are case studies:
Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:
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Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:
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Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:
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Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:
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"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."
Austin Wood
>vegetables bad hurr durr
Vegans have lower rates of kidney stones. The DASH diet (developed to reduce hypertension) has also proven to reduce the risk of developing kidney stones.
>The DASH diet focuses on fruits, vegetables, whole grains and lean meats.
>The diet was created after researchers noticed that high blood pressure was much less common in people who followed a plant-based diet, such asvegans and vegetarians(5Trusted Source,6Trusted Source).
Tyler Harris
Nobody is saying that you don't need B12 though. If you don't get it from your diet you obviously need to take a supplement.
Julian Sullivan
I never said I was going vegan. I'm not even going vegetarian, but I will be eating much less meat than now. Like about twice a week
Jackson Smith
What is
>a gallon of milk a day for calories and protein
What is
>6-12 eggs a day for calories and protein
What is
>2 slices of toast with honey and peanut butter drank with coffee for energy
Vegetarian life is the easiest to bulk on senpai
Jackson Ortiz
Autism
Asher Morales
give me one plant food with a PDCAAS of over 0.8
Kevin Reyes
Don't overthink it. Eggs and whey, and you're golden.
Carter Allen
Honestly this is disgusting
How can you do anything remotely like that to your own defenseless children?
These people deserve to eat lead
William Lopez
>Whey
Enjoy your heavy metal poisoning
>Eggs
Enjoy your heart disease, kek
Nolan Peterson
27 years of being vegetarian here. 6ft and athletic. My lifts are average though because only started lifting consistently 3 months ago. You can easily, easily, live without eating meat or fish and in my opinion healthier than eating meat. Lurking here for next 15mins if you want any answers
David Moore
whey has virtually no heavy metals unlike whole foods
Wyatt Brown
But he told me to eat less animal protein, guess that means eating less dairy and eggs too?
Benjamin Jenkins
Onions protein, pea protein, Sacha Inchi powder
Nathan Adams
Egg whites don't have cholesterol faggot
Ryan Scott
Do you like nigger monkey dick?
Jayden Taylor
Not sure about whey because it's very low in fat but animal products are generally more polluted than plants
Adrian Wright
Sorry, linked the wrong article
Colton Hill
those are protein supplements
give me plant foods I can buy that have a good quality protein
Samuel Harris
correct me if I'm wrong but heavy metals are accumulated in the fat solids, whey is almost completely lean
Luis Phillips
Onions has 0.8 PDCAAS
Carter Jones
When I say onions I obviously mean S O Y but Jow Forums doesn't want me to say that word
Christopher Rivera
I know
but what form of soi is tha t?
TVP?
Charles Bennett
No, just normal basedbeans. TVP has even higher PDCAAS, around 1.0
Nolan Hernandez
umh than take more b12?
Wyatt Taylor
got any source on that?
I don't doubt that but I would like some source so I can look into it
TVP is very cheap he re, willing to give it a try
Owen Price
This is patently false. You can only get oxalate from two sources, excess consumption of vitamins and from a plant based diet.These two items are inseparable for a "healthy" plant based dieter.
OP, you need to research plant Oxalate, it's the primary cause of kidney stones.
University of Chicago - How To Eat A Low Oxalate Diet
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You need to remove all the medium to high oxalate plant foods from your diet.
>coincidentally those high protein sources of plant food are very high in Oxalate.
>plants have a passive defense
>oxalate also robs your body of certain vitamins, a deterrent to keep predators from eating them
Julian Brown
Not all kidney stones are made of oxalate though. They can also be made of uric acid, like in my case
Leo Peterson
Drink more water retard, that's the number one solution for a avoiding kidney stones. Your piss should be light yellowish.
Zachary Bennett
My piss is transparent. I drink a shitton of water mate. I started having kidney stones 4 years ago, and since then I drink a lot of water. I did not have renal colics for 3 years until now. Why is that? Well during this last year I changed my diet because I started lifting, so I eat a lot of protein. So I think it really has a lot to do with diet
Sebastian Gutierrez
>uric acid
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>Most of the time, a high uric acid level occurs when your kidneys don't eliminate uric acid efficiently. Things that may cause this slow-down in the removal of uric acid include rich foods, being overweight, having diabetes, taking certain diuretics (sometimes called water pills) and drinking too much alcohol. Other less common causes are a diet high in purine-containing items or your body producing too much uric acid.
>Factors that may cause a high uric acid level in your blood include:
>Diuretics (water retention relievers)
>Drinking too much alcohol
>Genetics (inherited tendencies)
>Hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid)
>Immune-suppressing drugs
>Niacin, or vitamin B-3
>Obesity
>Psoriasis
>Purine-rich diet — liver, game meat, anchovies, sardines, gravy, dried beans and peas, mushrooms, and other foods
>Renal insufficiency (inability of the kidneys to filter waste)
>Tumor lysis syndrome (a rapid release of cells into the blood caused by certain cancers or by chemotherapy for those cancers)
What exactly does your diet consist off? Do you have any pre-existing conditions?
Adrian Smith
I have a normal diet. I eat mostly poultry, 3 times a week, beef 2-3 times a week and the other two days I don't eat any animal protein at all. I eat proteins the days I workout. I eat a good amount of carbs, specially rice and pasta, and vegetables, specially onions, tomatoes, carrots, peppers and potatoes.
Nolan Williams
lentils, beans, broccoli, nuts