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Apparantly mushrooms have been shown to reduce anxiety and stress. Do any of you utilize psychedelics in your fitness regiment? If you do, how should it be done to reduce harm and maximize mental health benefits?
Have any of you taken psychedelics for mental health
I hate when burger colleges are off for the summer
I'm not a loser, so, no.
>how should poison be used to reduce harm and maximize benefits
Lol
just tripped acid last night, shit was so cash.
don't worry about the harm, just do it 60's style, drop out and have fun, man
Just trip once a year. Read a lot about it before you do. People recommend trip sitters, but I'm more comfortable alone.
Microdosing apparently works as well. No tripping, but apparently there's research pointing to long term damage to the serotonin system and shit like that (might be still unpublished, keep an eye out during the months you'll be reading about it).
By the way, by reading about I mean both the science, trip reports and books on the subject both written by researchers and people who can trip and later articulate their experiences.
To see the benifits you need to have a full blown psychedelic experience. You cant just take 1/2 tab of acid or 2g of mushrooms. Anything sub breakthrough dose is nonsensical and pointless. Microdosing lsd is only useful as a stimulant like caffiene would be used, just tons for expensive, and mildly disrespectful to the chemical.
I microdosed lsd for a month felt alot better
More motivation sometimes things would bend or move if i stared at em was cool
Can be helpful or harmful, do your research before taking any: erowid.com
Personally I recommend them 20/10 would do again. Changed my life, would probably never have my current peace of soul and mind without having tried them.
done mushrooms and acid a few times each, thinking about DMT soon. Also thinking about ecstasy but not as sure about that one. It seems less thought-provoking and more... depraved, I guess? If you're a mostly normal person, they aren't going to fuck you up. Just do your research, don't do them too often and make sure you're in a good state of mind and in a comfortable place. Trip with your best bro / GF / brother / whatever. Trip sitters are kinda dumb IMO as long as you make sure you have no sober-person-responsibilities during your trip and DO YOUR RESEARCH.
Overall, I love psychadelics. I feel that they've made me more open, more friendly, more forgiving, and more disciplined. Especially mushrooms. LSD trips are fun and interesting but mushrooms have been way more impactful. You're sitting in your own head for hours thinking about feelings and time and shit and you have some "revelations" that can really change you. For example, I thought about waves for like half an hour I think.
How light comes in waves, sound comes in waves, water comes in waves. Things like emotions and friends and life in general also comes in waves, so it's okay to just let the waves pass. You may feel mad or sad right now but it will pass. Just an example of some trippy shit that came to me that I still think about months later.
I ate 6g my first time and didn't feel much, some mild time dilation and visuals
Ate 2g from the same batch my second time and it was insane, full on visual and audio hallucinations, thought loops that felt like they were 2 hours and then I'd look at the clock and it was 1 minute
Not sure why this happened but I didn't enjoy it and decided I was done with my experimenting shortly after
Have done L and all kinds of RC's, Molly/MDA/mdpd, fent patches, etc etc, not just some teenager that doesn't know how to interpret what happened
I've used Psilocybin Mushrooms about 2 years ago. It was right after I went through one hell of a break up which took a toll on me mentally and physically (I couldn't focus on training). I was also finding it hard to be excited about anything and I'd ask myself what's the point lifting, I was pretty nihillistic.
During my mushroom trip I experienced cosmic consciousness and an overwhelming sense that everything in my life, good or bad, was being created by myself. And that I had the power to change what I didn't like and make my world a better place. I only had a few mushroom trips but after that I was a more open and positive individual. I gave everything I did my utmost attention and effort. I made amazing gains in the gym and my mental health problems vanished. I gave up destructive habits such as pornography and self loathing. Now i stay sober and smoke weed occasionally. I find that weed helps me get a better mind - body connection and improved workouts. I try to stay mindful and I meditate often and do yoga. It's helped a lot, I no longer feel anxious.
That's just my two cents on the topic. I think psychedelics can help you workout better but not directly. It makes you see your flaws and then you can either do something about it or not.
>be me
>be 27
>depressed and suicidal
>decide to kill myself
>stop going to work
>stop eating
>stop taking my meds
>stop showering
>sitting there all day every day holding my gun
>for some reason out of the blue I call my old highschool friend I hadn't talked to in 8 years
>he knows somethings up
>comes picks me up
>we talk a bit and I tell him I'm thinking fucked up thoughts
>"wanna kill yourself?"
>nod
>"that sucks..." a good ten minute silence
>gets up and leaves the room
>comes back and has a massive baggie full of shrooms that he grew
>"I dont wanna take drugs! Are you kidding me?!?"
>then he pulled the perfect Jedi mind trick.
>"You want to die anyways right? What can possibly go wrong? Look if you end up killing yourself tomorrow or next month I'll be upset, but trust me, I will understand. Just please trust me with this."
>hands me the baggie
I ended up eating 6 grams. It was absolutely the most terrifying thing I'd ever experienced in my life at the peak. Depersonalization, loss of identity, absolute terror, you name it. It was not at all a pleasant experience.
When I started sobering up I was talking to him about it and he was comforting me and helping me through it. There was lots of crying. Eventually I fell asleep.
When I woke up the morning light coming through the window was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. His cat came looking for scritches and I felt like I was connected to him.
> friend woke up and asked if I was ok.
>"yeah im good."
>he got ready for work, said he had to go
>"If I say goodbye to you before I leave, which goodbye am I saying?"
>told him I was thinking about giving this life thing a second chance.
It was like I learned in a little 6 hour window how to look at how my thoughts were working. I could see the cognitive pathways that lead to depressive thinking.
Its been 10 years and Ive been depression free since.
>Have any of you taken psychedelics for mental health
yes
>Apparantly mushrooms have been shown to reduce anxiety and stress
I've tried microdosing shrooms for a little over month or so, they had the exact opposite effect. I'd take a bit and go to a lecture or for a walk and become extremely anxious. Only one day when microdosing did I not feel like it was bad idea, when I laid in bed and just listened to music and felt some mild euphoria.
One day after I microdosed I forgot what day it was and convinced myself I imagined the whole year and it was actually last year, I was freaking out because I didn't know what time it was and even the concept of time didn't even make sense. That was one of the worst days of my life. And this was only .4g so I wasn't even really tripping, but all I could do was wait for it to get out of my system. That was the last time I ever microdosed.
If you're going to do psychedelics, do it once or twice with a big amount and move on with life, don't bother microdosing. I've had two big trips and they were greatest and subsequent worst experiences of my life, both great learning experiences. I've gotten what I needed out of it and microdosing didn't add anything positive.
How much LSD for the true full blown psychedelic experience?
Max I ever did was 200ug but I still felt there was more to see
Also I think the effects of psychedelics on the mind is extremely understudied. People love to claim it's 100% safe when it's just not the case. We don't really know what the extent of the effects could be mentally down the line. We just know it's not physically toxic.
Took like 5 huge tops off of mushrooms my first time.
Really fucked with my head.
Thought I was dead for a while and actually stopped breathing a bunch of times.
Really think It fucked my brain up forever.
Going to do some shrooms and go into the woods for a few days. Somewhere safe and quiet.
Microdosing is good correct?
We do.
The entire 60's and a good chunk of the music acts and media was designed by the alphabet agencies to be a big test of the people of the country.
They have plenty of info on what psychadelics can do.
It's mostly a way to control peoples minds and change their thinking for whatever pourpose they want.
They did study LSD to find out if it was an effective mind control drug, they concluded it wasn't and was too unpredictable so they banned it. Alcohol is a way better mind control drug
>It was like I learned in a little 6 hour window how to look at how my thoughts were working. I could see the cognitive pathways that lead to depressive thinking.
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Oh user, you don't know how wrong you are.
Weed is a better mind control drug then alcohol.
Which is why weed use along with certain media was pushed so heavily to certain groups in america. LOL.
Alcohol just makes people easy to control at the moment.
Do it with a woman for fun
I microdosed for a bit and it kinda helped for a little. I did like 8 grams today, it actually increased my anxiety
Just do a shit load so your ego dies then you'll be good for life
good post
Always have a trip sitter and/or an experienced friend. Mushrooms are great in the forrest or at the beach. I tripped every month or two for a few years. 1.5-2g is a good beginner dose. I took 4g my first time and it was pretty intense. Do a lot of research first. I recommend The Vaults of Erowid. Personally, I prefer LSD but mushrooms are great.
>Apparantly mushrooms have been shown to reduce anxiety and stress
*Under therapeutic supervision.
A retard who takes psychedelics for recreative reasons while excusing himself as doing some kind of "inner search" will just increase all his damaging attitudes through proyection.
Coincidentally, said idiots will claim to have suffered ego death while coming down from the trip with an even bigger ego than before.
t. done too many psychedelic trips with the wrong people
Doing research about the subject will lead to self sugestion, aka an "unclean" experience.
It's good to be with someone experienced, it's not to expect some certain outcome, psychs can be pretty fucking wild or just mild visual experiences. Depends on the person and also the set & setting.
>Do you utilize psychedelics in your fitness regiment?
No, I'm white, which means I have no anxiety or stress.
good jape.
I smoke a lot of weed and take caps every 2 weeks.
I used to be on heavy SSRIs but I prefer this.
I live in Denver too
Took a half tab of acid and basically got a little giggly and my girl friend took the same and tripped balls. Gonna take a full tab next
do 2 tabs, you won't regret it
Mushrooms greatly helped with my self confidence. I don't feel general anxiety anymore.
LSD whipped me into shape to a degree and i started going to the gym regularly with a solid workout plan and eating 3000 cals a day with only a couple days missing due to being busy.
That type of dedication was impossible before.
Buying DMT tomorrow and I'm excited to try it. Any experiences you lads got?
or you will
t. HPPD from Acid and Molly use
Took two tabs yesterday
>went for two extensive bike rides
>kept hallucinating about porn, realized how fucking hooked my brain is
>stronger peak than I've ever had with one tab
End of my supply though, any anons know how to source some via tor?
Same brah. Didn't feel the need for it after a couple weeks.
I find way more beauty in life now. Even after a couple months of not doing it
I did an 8th of mushrooms a month ago in an attempt to regain motivation and fix my lethargy. Did ketamin on friday to try and fix the depression once again. I dont think i will ever actually be able to fix my depression, but whatever some people are like that just have to work with what you have
>HPPD
I may slightly have this but it's cool.
I would really like to try psychedelics but I have Bipolar 1 and am too worried of it causing me to become psychotic in a manic episode again.
Plus anyways my current meds would likely interact with the drugs (LSD + acid = death) so I'd have to get off them so it's really risky. Maybe when I've been super stable
I've tripped a few times (LSD, 2-CB) and microdosed (LSD) for a couple months. Psychedelics really have made me a more optimistic person. You notice the beauty of the things around you regardless of how mundane they are/seem to be. It makes you more appreciative of the things you have and steers you away from focusing on what you lack. Tripping itself is fucky, sometimes scary, and hit or miss in my opinion but what you gain in the following days makes it well worth it.
>LSD + Acid = death
Lithium + Acid = seizures and shit
I have a friend whos bipolar/schizo and whos tripped before. It's risky.
Don’t
Yeah it's probably a good idea to stay away from it.. Even creatine makes me manic.
tell us more user
Took two tabs of acid once and just didnt have the urge to drink alchohol anymore. Kept thinking i was supposed to learn something. The only thing i learned was i was a loser who took acid.
i do 4-aco-dmt all the time. best psych that's out there
>t. always going 40-80mg super high doses
Don't do it, I have bp1 as well and taking psychadellics when I was 18 caused a full blown manic episode. It's just not a good idea for us
Second best Jow Forums post I’ve ever read.
First was probably something making fun of Blaha
finally, a thread i can actually give a good response to.
>grew 2 oz dry of cubies in my closet last year
>eight trips, 7g each, 4 weeks
>tripped so many times in such a short time span i'd start tripping randomly for short periods of time for weeks after
the magic really just changed my perspective on myself as a person, and gave me fresh eyes to see myself through. it gave me ambition, and has made life even today so much more pleasant.
i highly recommend mushrooms to anyone who's looking for improvement in their lives. i also would further recommend contemplating the choices you've made in your life, thinking about the things that have shaped you, and what you need to do to be the best person you can be.
Also, be sure to accept that a trip is just that. A trip. It will not last forever, and be willing to go with wherever the magic takes you, be it good or uncomfortable.
Whats optimal conditions for growing magicks and how'd you do it?
warm and dark. google it.
Because you ate mushrooms not just the substance. Mushroom potency varies.
had similar bud about 11 years ago and life has been substantially better since. Still get the black dog occasionally, but have the awareness and thought processes naturally now to deal with it pretty rapidly.
>lost 116lbs since
>happier with better social life
>girlfriend who I care about
>doing well with work
>always making plans because life is fun
Would recommend.
I experimented with psychs in hs. Overall, i think it lowered motivation and my mental health.
sorta
keep it really moist, let it breathe. i recommend the PF tek and a shotgun fruiting chamber. i got some growing lights from amazon.
when you're letting the mycelium colonize, keep it dark and don't let any light get into it.
Would there be any 'benefit' for someone who is mentally stable to take shrooms? I've got not interest in taking any drugs really but I'm just curious. Will You get any new insights or something or become more conscious about yourself. Or will it just be a fun time for a couple hours.
Yes, it can give you fresh eyes to view your life from, and your problems.
PF tek. And take sterility very serious. Make a still air box from plastic tub
Did acid two days ago shit was great
Don t do it
It's not supposed to be something you do on the regular.
Once a year, rent out a secluded air bnb with plenty of nature with the guys do a couple grams put on some classical or traditional music and just let your mind wander, mediate it with some weed to enhance effects if you want.
Don't use it as a party drug
>Shrooms
>Poison
how underage/sheltered are you? you sound like a huge loser
this is me but with weed.
I hate to be overly optimistic but as far as I know it cured my anxiety and fixed my life. it motivated me to get fit, I had more sex in 3 months than my entire 20 years, I re-enrolled in community college, and nearly every day after work it's skating, soccer, concerts, or dates.
Psychedelics.
>weed
>ssri's
Not sure what you mean by caps though.
I wish weed had this effect with me.
All it does for me is it makes me stay on the couch all day, masturbate and eat take out like some soicuck. Even top shelf sativa would have this effect on me.
>in hs.
>If you do, how should it be done to reduce harm and maximize mental health benefits?
Read and watch everything about John Hopkins, they are the most advanced on it.
Most of the work isn't the seance, it's the integration of the experience in the following weeks.
It's useless to clean your slate if you go back to the usual routine anyway.
Read more about it.
If I hadn't taken acid on Thursday night, I highly doubt I would've survived the weekend, some really bad things happened.
Your friend is a good friend.
Bless him.
BPD and psychotropics don't mix well at all.
Just don't.
I once did 320mcg and it was one of the most impressive moments of my life. I had the most insane visuals seeing time move back and forth, smoke everywhere, endless streets etc. At the peak I couldn't see anything but complex colours and shapes, Ill never forget that. Would only recommend if you have some friends around you that will take care of you because you lose touch with reality completely.
I'm screencapping this one for future use in similar threads, I think your experience might help some people later down the road.
It gave me psychosis and a panic disorder.
>It gave me psychosis and a panic disorder.
Psilo does not give you psychosis.
If you already have a predisposition for schizophrenia, psychotic episodes, BPD, or other heavy neurological disorders, a psilocybin trip can trigger some maniac or psychotic episodes.
Psilo does not make you crazy, but can trigger an episode if you're predisposed to it.
If you have an episode under psilo, you probably have a serious mental/neurological illness. You should check it up.
I like to blast high doses and then enjoy the aftereffects for a bit. Microdosing stopped working
For those interested in the positive effects on mental health that psychotropic drugs can achieve, I'll dump a few video links about scientific research on the subject.
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Tread carefully, read first before doing shit with stuff you don't understand.
A great boon can be extracted from this lair, but it's not without any danger.
I'll lurk if you have questions.
PS: Dr. Rosalind Watts is a cutie, I want her to talk to me and hold my hand while I'm on a journey.
15g shrooms in a great state of mind with GF and best friend:
It was euphoric, everything felt perfect, time seemed to stop, the "problems" in my life seemed laughable.
After the trip I felt a little depressed for a week because of coming back to this grey world
Half a year later
7.5 g but stronger shrooms in a more or less anxious state:
Started out good, but became terrible. I felt no deeds in my life really matter as we are all going to die and that suffering is inevitable. I felt that I did not appreciate my girlfriend as much as she deserves it. I felt I neglected and abused my parents and my other friends just for selfish gains. I felt reality is a game that you cannot quit, and I will never feel satisfied/good again.
It happened a few weeks ago, I felt depressed for two weeks I am still getting myself together. It was a very bad trip but I think I learned more from this than my first one. I appreciate my friends more than ever, and my empathy towards others have risen a great deal.
My first thought after the bad trip was not relief, but more like "No wonder this is not legal".
I tried them recently and had a very bad trip, but it dialled my empathy up to 11 and I've found myself being far more loving and considerate to everybody recently. Nice change.
Also echo what other user said; feel like I could see how and why my brain worked the way it does. During the trip this made me feel like I was outside myself, total depersonalisation, like I was just a collection of thoughts with no actual substance. When I came down, it was quite the opposite, I felt like I knew myself extremely well and could then do things differently. Have felt very pleasant and whole ever since.
I took 2 tabs of acid at the beginning of the year. I'm not sure if it was actual LSD but I began to notice colours more, like beer bottles appeared very vivid green. Then I had a sensation of euphoria, my brain had waves of pleasure humming through it every second.
In terms of visuals, it wasn't very powerful. Normally if I look at something and concentrate hard enough it will start moving, on acid it just did this quicker and without much effort. It was also more crazy, like I saw multicoloured ants on my pillow which had a dotted pattern.
I think the start of the trip made me want to party, the peak of the trip was just too powerful to do much, but the end was where I actually had a beneficial experience. I reflected on myself and learnt not to be such a nervous person. I was also very keen to get back to the projects I was working on and to do well in life generally.
It was a very strange experience. I would like to try mushrooms but I would probably do LSD again. Everybody who is reasonably mentally stable should try it once, especially if they have a sense of stagnation or meaningless in their lives.
just broke up with gf yesterday and I'm in pieces, I'm kinda inspired to do shrooms now
This. "I heard aspirin thins your blood, should i take it for my premature ejaculation?"
Fucken idiots.
had a bad trip 2 years ago still have anxiety sometimes due to it
>smoke weed
>get fucked up derealization that ends up lasting for over a year
>want to try shrooms due to depression but worried that it might push me over the sanity ledge
Any ideas here?
>just broke up with gf yesterday and I'm in pieces, I'm kinda inspired to do shrooms now
Not a great idea man.
You should take shrooms when you're pretty stable emotionally and want to deepen your self-understanding and maybe shift your perspective, not when you are ongoing a kind of mourning.
Drink a night or two, maybe you can do shrooms in a month.
I had debilitating OCD which made my life a living hell since childhood. Tried all sorts of medication and therapy and nothing worked. I tripped on mushrooms and it just went away completely. I can't go into detail about what I saw or experienced during the trip because I don't have the words to explain it but somehow it rewired my brain to think differently.
alright I'll stay off it for now, thanks buddy
Are you or any family member (up to two degrees) diagnosed with some sort of mental illness like Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc?
Yeah, psilo is known to have effects (not always good) on OCD, this is arguably thanks to the wiping clean of the DMN (default mode network) which then allows for new pathways and networks to form, thus giving to the patient a possibility to change his habits, reflexes and mechanisms, depending on the integration post-seance.
(It also works on rumination)
This is why psilo has a "reset the brain" reputation, it's kind of true.
Had similar experience with THC cookies
I'd stay away from stuff like this user
Psylocibyn mushrooms are not toxic, you barely could eat the dose needed to kill you unless you are a competitive eater or something, and a high dose is ridiculously low compared with the kilo and a half you need to die.
OP they are very good for mental health, just remember to do it in a safe enviroment, start with low doses and up the dose when you feel confident enough, remember to get the shrooms by a safe source (i recommend growing them on your own, in a lot of countries the spores are legal) and dont take it if you have some sort of mental issue like schizophrenia because it could fuck you up immensely.
Tried describing an acid trip to a friend, now she thinks I'm a hardcore junkie. I don't even drink for fuck's sake.
People who haven't taken psychedelics will never understand the benefits. It's like trying to describe sweetness to somebody who has never tasted sugar. Don't waste time trying to educate the willing mindless, work on elevating your own consciousness.
My grandmother had bipolar - was an alcoholic and would lock herself in her room for weeks doing nothing but drinking. Then come out afterwards and be happy and fine.
On the other side, my aunt was believed she had a snake living inside her until recently. Fairly certain she has schizophrenia.
Then don't take psychotropic drugs, you probably have some bad predisposition.
No Psilo, no DMT, no MDMA, no Ketamin, no weed, nothing.
It might actually trigger not a mere episode but the disease itself and you might get stuck with an activated schizophrenia or something else.
Look up data on John Hopkins studies, the only people to whom they absolutely do not recommend psychedelics are those with a family history of neurological/psychological disorders of that sort.
Sorry mate, you'll have to stay away from cool drugs.
I quit drinking thanks to mushrooms. Those bad trips usually teach you the most.
I sometimes take small doses (sub 1g) to make my work days more enjoyable. Probably going for bigger dose this summer with friends if my mushroom guy can deliver.
>mushroom guy can deliver.
holy shit. that dude is a great friend
Slightly off topic, but how the fuck do I start to enjoy weed again. Used to fucking love smoking with my mates, listening to music, talking. Lately I've just been feeling tired and lethargic and just wanna lay in bed or sleep. Have I just grown out of it?