Are pull ups actually one of the best exercises or is it just a meme

how the fuck you can get 80 i barely can do 1

Are neutral grip pullups ok? I get the best ROM on those.

I think he means overall 80.

If you, dude, can not make even one pull up - better start doing negatives and just hang on bar till you fucking die.

Pull ups are good, but what would be even better for you specifically are shut ups. Personally I prefer penis ups (ur butt).

You don't know about Pavel Tsatsouline?

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8 sets of 10 throughout the day

This. Pull ups and rows same day. Best back day.

yep, if you are good at those work your weight up and you WILL be good at other grips

who /one-arm/ here?

who /two-penis/ here?

who /smelly-butt/ here?

Lose weight, do them more often and force yourself to do them until failure.
Alternate between easier pullups or chin ups then switch to a wider grip method for less reps but full ROM

I just found out your address. I only live about a half hr drive from you. I'm gonna come to your place and cut you in your sleep. I hope your door is locked buddy

For some reason wide grip and normal pullups cause pain in the middle of my forearm

Same here. I do heavy, 1 arm supported DB rows (almost a Kroc row type thing) as by big heavy pull. After that I do chin ups and pull ups, or lat pulldown.

Finish off with some rear delt and bicep stuff if I really feel like it and my pull day is done ezpz.

Wide Grip Pull Ups just look as Alpha as Hell.

>not working your glamour muscles
user it doesn't matter how much horsepower you have if your frame looks like shit

Just keep walking the plank matey.

Sure if you're too pussy to deadlift like most of fittit.

I can do sets of 8 chin-ups (supinated grip, hands close together) but not a single pull-up (pronated grip, hands far apart). Is this because my upper back is weak as fuck or am I just doing something wrong?

Your brachialis may be weak

I was under the impression a chin-up has more brachialis and bicep involvement than a pull-up, since the range of motion at the elbow is greater.

Yes
Lats are most involved in pulling the arm to the body in the plane of the body (T-Pose to neutral), i.e. wide grip. Chin-up rotate the arms in the plane of straight forward towards the body, which the lats are only partially involved in (along other upper back and shoulder muscles). Also the mechanical efficiency is different between the exercises (consider distance from hands to back and lever action).

tldr start training lats and doing pullups with assistive resistance band to work your way up

Not him but I also struggle to do one. I don't have the slightest idea why. I can push my bodyweight on bench and pull even more.
Maybe I lack in forearm power

I only really feel my lats working from one-arm dumbbell rows. Guess it's time to start doing them more often.

t. fail to do 1 pullup
>faggot factor hit the roof

I think it's more that one works more than the other depending on grip, in the same way that if you do curls with a supinated grip you will get a strong contraction in your biceps, whereas with a pronated grip the contraction in the biceps won't be nearly as strong, but the brachialis is going to be working a lot harder

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME, PYLE.

top kek

post back

Pull-ups are based

youtube.com/watch?v=nHjB--dv-nE

>barely can do 1
Get the fuck outta here

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wide grip pullups do not engage lats your brainlets, they engage the weird upper back muscles like teres major. to activate lats you have to do close grip chins or neutral close grip pullups

you either have bad form that doesn't use your lat much, or you should do harder variations and weighted pull ups
lose weight, do bodyweight rows, slow negative, pull ups with bands, lat pull downs
3 to 5 sets of 1 rep, increase the reps by one as often as you can and you'll get them eventually

I love pullups. Even bought a weight vest lately.

tagging my own post. try neutral VERY close grip pullups. you will immediately feel a huge stretch in your actual lat muscle even when just hanging there. guaranteed you will get lat DOMs

You're either too heavy or your lats and back are underdeveloped.

>crossfit

If you can do 8, add weight. Not sure why people think doing pull-ups is different from any other exercise. You don't just stay at 1pl8 bench and do 80 reps do you?

What else should be included for a good back workout?

Deadlifts

Weighted ring pull ups

Deadlifts

Jefferson Deadlifts

Pull-ups

Neutral grip cable rows

This has been my pull day routine for a little bit now and I don’t think there’s anything else you need really. Pull-ups after a set of deadlifts will fire up your forearms as well.

I've been having issues with my pull ups.

I used to be able to do 3 sets of 10, dead hang style.

Now I'm doing a set of 7, a set of 5, and a set of 4 or something like that.

Furthermore, after the first set I can't even get my nose to clear the bar. It's like I get up there, and I hit a wall. It doesn't even feel like my muscles are straining, it's like I'm stopped by something.

It's pretty baffling. I've been working in some one arm bent over rows and stuff like that to try and compensate but I don't know why my pull up game is getting shittier. I've been able to do 3 sets of 10 pull ups for like a decade. No idea why it's suddenly impossible.