Time for your daily dose of propaganda, anons

Factually incorrect. If you ate meat once a month you were the worst of the worst at hunting. Imagine depending on women for berries and nuts mate. Your a fucking evolutionary dead end.

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The problem isn't that Americans eat too much meat, it's that they're eating processed meat coated in carbs and then deep-fried in basedbean oil. There is zero evidence that eating "too much meat" is unhealthy.

Meat industry is pretty retarded though. It pollutes shit ton, it consumes a lot of clean water and you get like 5% of the calories back which you put in. Granted the quality of the calories are better in meat, but not enough to justify the incredibly high loss

That said I don't give a fuck because nothing will change before we get an actual substitute for meat, probably via GMO food. Once we can create our own meat we can start talking about shutting down meat industry, just like gasoline based cars aren't going anywhere before electric cars replace them

> third world
> human
pick one retard

anyone remember the (also removed) rats and cocaine video? the video claimed that cocaine is no more addictive than sugar because of a single study that many tried to replicate and failed to do so.

Red meat linked to cancer.

I remember the study. Not surprising.

oh fuck off, video is as neutral as it gets. the only thing it actually concludes is that processed meat is terrible, which it is

>muh pollution
Nobody cares

I just want to remind everyone that Beef, eggs, pork, potatoes, and milf products are the foods that are most associated with height gain
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X16300065

>milf products
fuck, milk products
god I wish it were milf products

>we evolved eating meat, at most, once a month
Oh boy, I get to post it again!

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The fuck are you talking about? The video is pretty fair Honestly, and it's not Vegan Propaganda. If Anything, These guys only really push Climate Change

1. They cite how some all-meat diets are perfectly fine as long as the whole animal is used
2. The make note that cancer/death risk is all statistics, and that the method of studies are somewhat flawed
3. It states that Processed meats like Hot dogs and Bacon are really shit for you (which they are) And that Lean meat is Virtually harmless (aside from contaminants/undercooking)

See

Can almost confirm. Brothers are onions drinking homos grew up vegetarians artsy types both under 5’10. I played sports slammin milk and so on 6’5.

Onions drinking idk why it changed to onion

Newfags need to get out...

They are usually really good but this is just fucking worthless.

Those dumb shit fucking studies dont discriminate on fitness or fat levels. Yes, that literally means some fit athlete is considered the same as the average fat as fuck American who considers a burger with lettuce a balanced meal.

Go take the average slice of the US population, over half are obese, and over half over consume meat, ipso facto meat must equal cancer and stroke right? No they are just FUCKING FAT AND UNFIT.

The only ONLY proven risk from meat is processed meats. And that LITERALLY has nothing to do with the meat, its the processing such as smoking, salting and preservatives which cause cancer. Not the meat itself.

s o y got changed to onions a while ago

>Dont eat bacon, sausages, salami or fast food.
You started out saying smart things then you went full stupid.

Processed meats means smoking, salting and preservatives. You can have sausages and bacon which are not processed. And 'fast food' will depend on what the meat is, and whether or not its changed in any way.

they did say they try to control for that but tell me where i'm gonna find a bunch of fatsos with great diets or fit people with shit diets for my study then

fucking retards cant science

I was on Jow Forums in 04. Just not into the community of it all. Use to love fat people hate threads

>everything that goes against my close minded view is propaganda
great dude
just keep on thinking this way

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The onion change is over a year old.

Bacon doesn't cause cancer.

it does
it has been proved holy shit you guys are retards
this is not a debate anymore just like we know cigarettes cause lung cancer

>nobody cares about mass-migration of billions of people
ok retard

from what I understand it's the curing and nitrates that do, not the meat itself

>2. The make note that cancer/death risk is all statistics, and that the method of studies are somewhat flawed
>3. It states that Processed meats like Hot dogs and Bacon are really shit for you (which they are) And that Lean meat is Virtually harmless (aside from contaminants/undercooking)

Those are the exact same thing, don't eat processed meat, even animals feed soys or grains because of their increased omega 6 ratios. They even need to pump the animal full of antibiotics because that cheap feed destroys the animals immune system, and guess what? Does the same shit to us when we eat that garbage too which is what they're purposefully, with malicous of fore-thought pushing onto the public.

>1. They cite how some all-meat diets are perfectly fine as long as the whole animal is used

It already is, nothing is wasted in from animals. Everything aside from the cuts of meat from cows gets grinded down even into gelatin for electronic components, cosmetics, etc.

Their dietary recommendations for meat, the 1-3 portions a week will make people loss a ton of lean muscle mass. No one should be doing that shit, its overtly contra indicated for health to look like a holocaust survivor, which is ironically what the majority body of vegans look like.

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you dumbfucks don't realize meat is a newer thing to our species. its fuckd to eat dead corpses. we don't need it. vitamin b12 is a byproduct. animals don't get it from meat. vitamin D is sourced by sunlight.

so what nutritionally reasons are there to eat meat? muh protein? that myth has been debunked ages ago.

its carcinogenic. makes you fat slow and stupid.
its acidic as fuck.
wrecks your gut.

but sure, some weak faggots may be stimulated by the animal hormones in meat, and thinks this is the meat " making them strong", when it in fact, is their weak body being starved for nutrition. feeling shit unless being constantly stimulated by an animals hormones. means that the said person doesn't have sufficient hormonal systems working correctly. adrenals down, thyroid down etc.

no seriously, fuck meat. shit cardiovascular health, erection problems, balding, all kinds of crap coming from too much meat.

Jow Forums drones like to shit on the channel because they made some opinionated videos on the refugee crisis a couple of years ago.
So now every time they make a video even loosely connected to a liberal talking point these people throw a tantrum. Apart from the fact that they post literal pages filled with sources for every video, the Jow Forumscels apparently don't even watch the video and just assume what it's content is.
Just how this retard gets mad at them potentially citing flawed studies when they themselves explained how a lot of studies are inaccurate in the actual video the guy claimed to have watched.

i wonder why they are fat and unfit.
humans arent originally fat and unfit,think is just the "lack of exercise"? and surely not the artificial crap nutritionally void food and "meat"?

Blah blah blah muh veganism

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"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

What kind of person will you be user? Will you be the old man who makes the world a better place, or will you be an incel rambling on about meat on a homosexual forum.

>T.Cooper
nice cooping fatguy

Yeah but bacon refers to pork belly that has been cured in that way. I think they may make nitrate free bacon, but I don't know too much since bacon sucks

Post body

Propaganda? It is well known that various types of meat (primarily processed meat and red meat) are linked with a multitude of cancers.
People eat too much meat. Some meat is fine, but first world countries consume massive amounts of it.
There is a fucking reason the west is riddled with cancer while the rest of the world barely sees it.

I eat meat. But I know not to over do it unlike you retarded "carnivores" with your tiny ass canines that would never be able to rip through the hide of a cow or pig.

big meat is different argument than is meat unhealthy

But it says that eating red meat in moderation (2 times a week) is notnot harmful; also in the first minutes of the video it clearly says that you can practically eat all the chicken and fish you want because it's actually good for you.
What is wrong with these statements?

the rest of the world doesn't live long enough to see it

they pump the animals full of antibiotics because their diet has zero variety and they often live by the thousands in tiny confined spaces, ya fucking dingus

holy shit how hard is it not to pretend to know shit you don't

Youtube channels like these make me feel sad of being a western EU citizen

It's the cult mindset. I've seen vegan influencers get exposed for secretly eating fish, then they come out and list off there giant list of medical issues on why they had to eat fish. At no point will they admit that the vegan diet harmed them. By the way buy my corporate sponsor's blender + pill subscription.

A plant based diet is just centrist nonsense where you don't want to go full vegan but you still want to tow the appeal to authority mindset. Instead of no nutrition you get very little nutrition, it's the same shit.

You'll bitch about people saying fiber is bullshit (which it is) but at the same time who's the group trying to drag everybody into their cult with knowingly false claims and shaming anybody who doesn't follow their belief system?

Saturated fats which you cannot get from plants.

shutup meatcuck, your in a cult

kurzgesagt is unironically based, i'm glad they're doing well

oh no, muh 18% increase in risk in epidemiological studies. What am I going to do.
Not to mention in every other field but nutrition a correlation study that is under 100% increased risk is not even considered to be worth anything.
Three years ago there were 52 correlation studies published, that were then followed up with causation studies(each of those correlation studies had much more than a 20% increase in relative risk). Do you wanna know how many turned out to be true when causation was studied? Fucking 0, and 5 of them actually show the opposite effect.

so you think meat cures cancer?
get a load of this guy folks

oh boy, I get to post it again

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Reminder that Kurzgesagt has been owned by the German government since 2018

Why don't you look at the videos instead of assuming their contents?
xqcYikes

We simply don't have the ability to get fats from fiber like monkeys do.
Vegans face when monkeys in the wild eat an almost keto diet

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No it doesn't. You're mindlessly parroting a lie.

That's the lie. Vegetables have more nitrates than processed meat. Vegan liars who fearmonger about meat don't mention that.

There was never any reason to believe nitrates were harmful.

>eat plenty of fish
>chicken is fine
>red meats are probably ok, any problems are likely due to the high fat content
>refined meats are carcinogenic

Is this anything contentious in the slightest?

Anti nootrient propaganda debunked by Frank Tufano youtu.be/U_bDcC8HQkc , people are reading 'the fat of the land' and 'nutrition and physical degeneration'

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not except for the high fat content bit.
most people are overreacting tho

That's what I got. It doesn't seem that controversial.

My local store now starts selling bacon and advertises it as nitrate free.

[citation needed]

Veganism and Globalism walks hand in hand, start eating high quality raw and cocked meat, alongside intestains

"Nitrate-free" bacon has more nitrates than normal bacon, shit for brains. They get the nitrates from celery.

Nitrates are not harmful. Celery doesn't cause cancer and obviously neither does bacon.

Just shut the fuck up about subjects you are so clueless about.

t.

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>It is well known that various types of meat (primarily processed meat and red meat) are linked with a multitude of cancers.
It's a "well-known" lie.

"Mohammed is the prophet of god" is also "well-known".

It doesn't matter how many people believe a stupid lie. It's wrong regardless.

1. Chicken is high in omega 6. It's not a healthy meat.

2. Red meat is not just "fine" but is an incredibly healthy superfood.

3. Dietary fat is healthy.

4. Processed meats don't cause cancer.

Everything you wrote was wrong.

See: You're a gullible retard.

Meat actually prevents cancer. Cancer is primarily caused by substituting healthy fats (animal fats) with unhealthy fats (seed oils).

Here's an example. The group that consumed MORE meat had LESS colon cancer.

nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200004203421601

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Try living near a feedlot or slaughter house. Critique is not all bogus, it's generally not worth diving into.

Idiot. Bacon and sausages are processed

Then post some sources you fucking faggot. Anyone can make some bullshit bullet points.

nice bait post i rate 6/10

>get proven wrong
>call it "bait"
Why do vegans always do this?

nice second attempt but predictable 5/10

look at the studies again, the people citing them are massively exaggerating the results. the risk goes from like 7% to 8%, negligible when you consider actual cancer giving things like smoking.

Smoking is as much an overstatement darling.

Nice debate tactic, Shlomo.

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Allow me to summarize everything wrong here
>All animal matter is more nutritious than plant matter. Everything in them is more closer to what our own bodies consists of and they don't contain any antinutrients like oxalates, lectins, tannins or any other toxins. Fat is the most nutritious source of energy for us. Why do you think our body aggressively converts excess carbohydrates to fat but not the other way around?
>No, we didn't begin eating animals because the climate changed. It was because the humans became scavengers first. Big bones have lots of bone marrow in them but only a tiny fraction of animals can access it. Humans being one of them were able to shatter the bones with two stones and began eating fat that way. When the nutritional needs exceeded our scavenging capabilities, we started hunting to fill that gap. Mammoths and other megafauna are extinct only because they contained tons of fat.
>Fresh meat contains vitamin C. The reason why people don't think so is because when the nutrition facts for meat were first created, the scientists didn't even test it and marked it as 0 because they assumed this was the case. Scurvy is assumed to be caused by lack of carnatine, which vitamin C is used to synthesize. Carnatine deficiency is linked with lack of energy to do anything and the symptoms preceding scurvy is the same. Carnatine can also be found in animal foods by itself.
>Sailors who got scurvy were fed mostly a grain based diet because it was easier to store. The captain on the other hand got dried meat on top of it. The common person to get scurvy during sailing was the lowest ranked crewman who got no quality food.
> The bioavailbility of iron from spinach is lower than from meat because it's bound to oxalates. Not to mention your body will have to transform it into a heme form by itself while meat already contains tons of heme iron.

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>"May lower the risk of cardivascular diseases" No! What does lower the risk of cardiovascular diseases is not eating carbohydrates.
>Saturated fat does not cause cardiovascular diseases! It is caused by damage to the endothelial cells of the arterial wall, which cholesterol comes to fix. Finding cholesterol from blocked veins is like finding firemen at a wildfire. Cholesterol is not a problem if you take into account triglycerides, HDL and LDL as a whole. LDL is the bad cholesterol, sure. But it is its relation to triglycerides and HDL which is meaningful. If LDL is high but trigycerides are low and HDL is high, you have a healthy person. If LDL is high bit triglycerides are high and HDL is low, you have an unhealthy person. Also dietary cholesterol does not effect serum cholesterol.
>4:08 "A recently published study" was not a study, but a vegan propaganda letter which ignored a ton of evidence that contradicted their statemt. EAT-Lancet got themselves into a big scandal due to this and a lot of practicing MD's criticized it.
>The difference between red and white meat is the myoglobin concentration. That's literally it. The redder the meat, the darker red it is.
>11%, 19% and 17% increases are not statistically significant. To get something that matters in medicine, you'd have to get at least 200% increase. 19% from a 1% chance is absolutely nothing and even 200% increase would make it 2%. Not to mention these studies didn't control for carbohydrate consumption and they were asked what they ate EVERY TWO YEARS. Try to remember what you ate 2 years ago last tuesday.
>Do not bring nitrates into this. Just four servings of celery has more nitrite than 467 hot dogs
>Processed meats are more strongly linked with cardiovascular diseases because they are mixed with carbohydrates like flour.

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Based

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>jews
like clockwork, instant 2/10 please be more creative

Anyone who thinks "nitrate free" bacon exists is a moron. They can be ignored.

>the uncured bacons actually had higher levels of nitrite than the cured meat: Farmland Hickory Smoked Bacon registered an average of 9.7 ppm nitrite (and 48 ppm nitrate), while its All-Natural counterpart showed an average of 16.3 ppm nitrite (and 10.3 ppm nitrate). And the Applegate Farms Uncured Sunday Bacon averaged more than three times the level of the regular bacon: 35 ppm nitrite (and nearly as much nitrate, at 44.3 ppm).
cooksillustrated.com/how_tos/5734-nitrate-free-bacon

>Lifestock is fed antibiotics because they have a grain fed diet and become sick due to it. Feed a cow what it's supposed to eat, grass, and antibiotics are no longer needed. The meat from a grass fed cow is also higher quality.
>Take a look at the studies on nitrogen concentration of pre-historic humans. The higher the concentration on an animal, the more meat it ate. Prehistoric humans had higher concentrations than wolves.
>Grass fed beef is not affect climate change. Cropping does. In this sense feeding grains to humans or the cows is bad. Multiyear grass has giant root systems and can bind a ton of carbon to the ground and prevent erosion or runoff
>Bottom line. Animals evolve taste based on what allows the animal thrive. An animal that likes eating poisonous mushrooms for their taste will most likely die unless its digestive system is specifically designed to eat that. Why does meat taste so good to us then? Because we thrive on it. You could ask why muffins are so tasty then and it's because it's not a whole food and has been manipulated to taste extremely good. Eat foods that taste exellent with as little processing as possible and you'll be healthy. Avoid sugar and seed oils at all costs.
Done

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You're Jewish.

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>I eat meat. But I know not to over do it unlike you retarded "carnivores" with your tiny ass canines that would never be able to rip through the hide of a cow or pig.
>taking nutrition advice from a skinwalker
ISHYGDDT

>b-b-but processed meats
Approximately 80% of dietary nitrates are derived from vegetable consumption;

academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/1/1/4596750

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absolutely based

poorfags seething

I am not going to give up my privilege to eat meat and grow and not be a weak manlet because some kid in Africa will die.

haha what

yeah that's third worlders who come here and get on an American diet are several inches taller and more intelligent. Thanks for proving our point.

Second hand smoke restrictions haven't worked to reduce lung cancer- nonsmokers keep ruining that by catching it. More evidence supplied fails fact check.

fascinating, you seem to know your stuff, tell me more.

look at this guy explain it
you are a willing manlet if you voluntarily refused meet while growing up
youtu.be/0cuO5OSDMbw?t=65