Jow Forums I have 2 options when I want to go to ab level, I'm about 200lbs right now

Jow Forums I have 2 options when I want to go to ab level, I'm about 200lbs right now.

1. /fast/ until I see abs
2. calorie deflict until I see abs

Which method retains the most muscle?

fast

Fasting, as long as you still work out

Why not both? Intermittent fasting with a calorie deficit during your feeding periods.

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I love how neofit summer retards have somehow managed to making fasting into the new magic pill. lmfao

i wonder what the fad will be next year

DNP + Eat whatever the fuck you want + Cardio
2 weeks and you will have abs

idk man? how jacked did Holocaust survives look when they were liberated?

>DNP
Long term effects are not known and probably bad

Bad example

Who gives a fuck, we're all going to die some day anyway. Pick your poison

The were eating at a caloric deficit

Yeah fasting is a meme get-lean-quick scheme. Idiot newfags are always looking for a shortcut to success. If you fast say goodbye to your gains.

>imagine being so lazy that you end up kys

Why does every other thread have to be porn? Once it's a trend it makes you all look like unmasculine beta faggots.

It's the only way to get attention on a non meme topic

how am i suppose to nofap when you losers post pic

>lower back dimples
FUCK

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Doing headstand dick rotators

if you have gains, you won't lose them. most people who fast don't have any real gains in the first place because it's a great weight cutting tool

and she has nice skin

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I've been on a 1000cal deficit at 0.65g/lb protein for the last 4-5 months and my lifts have gone down by like 10lbs.

I've lost about 50 pounds and have 10 to go.

Muscle retention is a meme. Fasting is a meme. You learn no self discipline or coping skills so once you are done fasting you'll just put all the weight back on because you only learned how to either eat nothing (fast) or eat everything (refeed), and nothing in between. After every meal you'll crack and binge because your body is used to you eating thousand calorie meals or nothing at all, so a normal 400cal meal will feel like hell.

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Can't get DNP, what do?

fucking KYS disgusting cat poster

Care to offer an alternative? Your comments are worthless and lack substance

Show us your washboard abs user
Do this instead op and be patient, you should be in it for the long haul

bump

There's this wonderful thing called CARDIO I think you should try it user

Fasting is only a meme if you do it for intervals. It's meant to be a lifestyle change not a "lose weight quick" diet. You're supposed to never stop intermittent fasting once you've started it. I've been doing it for about 2 years now and not eating for 16 hours comes naturally to me. Yea, I have my cheat days here and there but for the most part the hunger doesn't bother me and it becomes less about discipline and more about routine.

As for the results? No, you still need to be responsible with what you eat if you want to see changes. Fasting might help with the mindset for dieting but by itself I don't think it helps you lose weight. Eating at a caloric deficit makes you lose weight. It's not a deficit if you binge eat whatever the fuck garbage in your feeding period.

Slow cut and don't eat shitty food