VEGAN GENERAL

dude it's just le detox haha don't listen to your body listen to online internet """doctors""" the falling weak hair and teeth is absolutely normal haha

yeah and then I lose my sex drive and my orgasms feel like a tickly piss haha

I really do hate animal agriculture and all that comes with but I just don't think it's for me

What's a typical day of eating for you?

Very balanced.

I would eat a lot of beans, rice, greens, and fruits for snacks. Plus food from the restaurant I work at. Easily 2000 cals worth.

You need to eat dark leafy greens every day really. Also make sure you take a teaspoon of flax seed/chia seed.

I've been vegan for a year and a half now and feel great. Granted the first hurdle was the first month. I think it was because I needed my gut bacteria to adapt. But hey if it's not for you have you tried vegetarian or ovo? You could also do vegan with bivalves+occassional crustacean it's what I did in the interim.

Tbh orgasms feeling like piss is a circumcision fuck ups

>You realize that vegan causes cancer?
Elaborate

over 50 NOOTRIONS

People are seeing the benefits of a healthy high colesteral diet based on quality aninal fats and Liver, brain and fisheggs are a superfood. Remove suger, vegetable-oils and proccessed food from your diet.

Remember that Globalism and veganism walk hand in hand.

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Very true.

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>2000 calories is a lot
why are you here if you don't lift?

Any source on Earth which is truth based, is better than any "science" mo matter how fancy, if the (((scientists))) are lying to promote an (((agenda))) like Veganism lol.

But you stay vegan please..

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Why not just supplement everything else and not eat anything?

>what's wrong with going vegan
you're unlikely to get every micronutrient and will end up as one of the emaciated retards that get posted in vegan hate threads unless you're one of a gifted few who actually understands nutrition well enough to avoid that

>do i need to supplement if i'm just vegetarian
probably. pescatarian would be better and the moral arguments against consuming fish are flimsy at best

Left meat eater
Right vegan for two years

It's not hard to do if you're not a dumbass about it

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Mirin
Similar transformation here, whats your day of eating look like.
Mine is
>banana oats(cup) and milk(cup)
>2 eggs and some bread maybe some goatmilk
>200 grams of lentis 100 grams of rice with whatever vegetables i got
>a bowl of nuts

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Hey, severe retard, you gymcelling now? just lol

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>r-roids
>secretly not vegan though
>g-globalist agenda

hnnnnnng tfw no buff vegan bf

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LMAO denying science because it says something you don't like. You a flat earth climate change denying dinosaur bones are fake Christian too?

>Discord server
Cringe

if you think a body like this takes roids you are one of the biggest dyels ever and should leave this board

that's not vegan you fucking brainlet

Is fish a vegetable?

Hmu

Two things, you started lifting before you enter vegan and you haven't been vegan long enough to really start degenerating yet. Took me about 3 years before I started noticing serious health issues and being unable to keep up with my training.

>Took me about 3 years before I started noticing serious health issues
Such as?

Everyone says this. I've been vegan 3 years and it's fine. Some guy comes and says that he was vegan 4 years untill he noticed issues. When I was vegan for two years there was some guy saying exactly the same bullshit as you.

Are you people just vegans for x+1 years because the globalist animal agro industry has paid you off to shill the mass destruction of natural resources and the early death of humans?

Its vegetarian
Also everything is home made

Normies think zack efron requires roids

Not him, but my memory started going after about ten months.
Turns out I had B12 deficiency (along with some other deficiencies) which can take a long, long time to noticeably manifest. I had other symptoms, as well, but my short-term memory crashing is what drove me into a doctor office.
A lot of vitamins and minerals are stored in your body fat. A vegan diet causes you to drop a good amount of weight, and I would suggest it temporarily for that purpose, but as you break down body fat you release those vitamins and minerals, which can cover up the dietary inefficiency of veganism. Once you approach low body fat, your nutrient deficiencies hit you all at once.
I've got a whole year of my life where my memories are like swiss cheese. Do not pick up a vegan diet as a long-term lifestyle.

For non-bodybuilding vegan info, I like Unnatural Vegan on YT. A bunch of videos on how to do vegan safely, the risks and regularly debunking nutjob vegans.

As for doing it yourself:
I'd go vegetarian first, see how that goes.
Then start using vegan protein powders. There are some good ones out there nowadays (mixing pea and rice protein isolate usually covers everything). But they simply don't taste as good as whey, so figure out how to use them. I'd invest in a Nutribullet thingamajig. Makes life so much more convenient.

Then use the proper supplements (b12 being the main one) and go vegan. Keep an eye on macros and if you ever feel weird, see a doc and do a blood test.
In my experience, individual people can either handle vegan or they can not. If you can't and there is no way to improve your diet or supplementation, they you are just out of luck and should go back to vegetarian.

>plants aren't harvested to feed livestock
your mind on antiveganism
t. not even vegan, just unbiased

yo guys, what's a good vegan protein powder?

I've been reading that sometimes the vegan protein powder are not a complete protein due to lacking essential amino acids. How the hell does one get to know these things. I've been taking NOW onions isolate.

I don't know specific brands from the US.
But usually mixing pea, rice and onions covers all bases.

>But usually mixing pea, rice and onions covers all bases.
bruh what, i ain't buying all those powders and mixing them myself -_-..

Anyone know why the soi filter replaces it with onions. Vegans eat onions, if you didn't know.

Just mix the powder with onions milk nigger.
Also dont go over .8/lb,its a waste of money and potentially cancerous

Imagine beliveing in everything scientists paid by people who push an agenda say
Dont be a retard and be a little critical in your thinking

Thay certanly are as brigth as a vegetable

Stale meme, newfriend.
It stopped being funny a long time ago and is now just really annoying. I wish they would remove it.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the soi meme. I even fell for it at first and started turning down soi sauce. It's the onion part that I don't get.

Where you at, a lot of companies do vegan blends now which combine rice and pea protein. Otherwise get a sack of each and tip them in a large container together and give them a shake.

I don't believe everything that scientists say. You know scientists aren't some big organization who come up with an agenda or get paid as one large group though?
There is countless evidence from shit to great research institutions saying how good a vegan diet is for humans and the environment. But nah you like your conspiracy theory because it serves your confirmation bias and worldview that everything is some big plan to come down on you, the saviour of the world. Lmao get back to flipping burgers, neo.

I look similar to him desu

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20% of the crops grown are given to livestock.
5% are intentionally grown for them, the other 15% are waste from human agriculture, things that are "unfit for human consumption"
>this is your brain on vegan propaganda

>vitamin B12 deficiency
Why didn't you take a B12 supplement?

onions boost test.
soi blocks test absorption.

there is no science that supports this theory.
the only published science that has headlines that follow your agenda is misinterpreted data from seventh day adventists and their associated groups.

>The major feed grains are corn, sorghum, barley, and oats. Corn is the primary U.S. feed grain, accounting for more than 95 percent of total feed grain production and use.

>More than 90 million acres of land are planted to corn, with the majority of the crop grown in the Heartland region. Most of the crop is used as the main energy ingredient in livestock feed.

ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feedgrains/feedgrains-sector-at-a-glance/

>corn, sorghum, barley, and oats are the only crops grown in the world

LMAO kill yourself retard. "science is a conspiracy" is enough for me to ignore your ramblings and just keep serving you gruel. I don't consort with retards.

Okay what else is grown and is it grown for human consumption? The only thing that comes close to supporting your claim is palm oil and that's still a speck of nothing compared to the vast quantity of crops grown for animals.

i also think there is big meat shilling in these threads

rice is 100% given to humans as an example off the top of my head.
potatoes, peas, beans, fruits...
it's like you're not even trying...

Imagine being so deluded that you think "big meat" or "big veg" are separate things.
The people farming your veggies are also farming your cattle, pigs, and chicken. Big Ag gets paid either way.

>Just 55 percent of the world's crop calories are actually eaten directly by people. Another 36 percent is used for animal feed.

www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed

Still barely anything in land intensity compared to animals. There are approx 1.5 billion farmed cattle in the world. There are 6-7 billion people. Do you really think 4 people eat more than one cow? Now add in all the pigs, sheep, chicken, etc.

>The proportions are even more striking in the United States, where just 27 percent of crop calories are consumed directly — wheat, say, or fruits and vegetables grown in California. By contrast, more than 67 percent of crops — particularly all the onions grown in the Midwest — goes to animal feed.

yeah they could be the same people but if people realize they don't need to eat meat and stop buying one of their main lines of products that would fuck them up.

>“A staggering 60% of global biodiversity loss is down to the food we eat. We know a lot of people are aware that a meat-based diet has an impact on water and land, as well as causing greenhouse gas emissions, but few know the biggest issue of all comes from the crop-based feed the animals eat.”

theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/05/vast-animal-feed-crops-meat-needs-destroying-planet

Can you be obese and vegan?

Its just that I'm 300 lbs and tried every diet in the world. Tried keto, tried carnivore diet, tried atkins diet, tried whole 30, tried various fasting methods.

My friend went vegan and started to lose weight. He trying to say animal products make you fat.

I don't fully believe my friend. But, I don't know what to do anymore.

You rely on soi for protein for one

Are you stupid? Just use them intermittently or scoop from two when making a shake/smoothy. Same as with whey and casein.

And if you aren't buying protein powder in bulk, you are wasting your money.

Diets don't mean shit.
Eat slightly less than you need.
Holy shit, it's 2019. Get a calorie counting app and start counting. You are lying to yourself.

Explain the problem

Oreos are vegan.

I was told you don't need to calorie count whilst doing keto. But, I gained weight.

My friend who is vegan says he doesn't have to calorie count.

I can't calorie count.

Yeah vegan is good to loose weight, purely because it's difficult to get everything in in a day
T. Vegan.

>Tried keto, tried carnivore diet, tried atkins diet, tried whole 30, tried various fasting methods
Have you tried eating less instead of falling for every single meme diet?

That being said, a vegan diet just means not eating animla products. Sugar, beer and vegetable oils are all vegan. So you should start eating a whole foods plant based diet. It's a diet high in fiber so it's harder to overeat. But seriously, start counting calories and weigh yourself regularily.

White flour and sugar is not technically vegan, neither is most beer because of isinglass

You are a food addict, so you need to be more careful than normal people. Some people stay thin on the standard american diet without counting calories. But you obviously need something to help you with restricting your calories.
>I can't calorie count.
Wtf do you mean by that? Just download myfitnesspal for free and get started right now.

i'm both impressed and worried about how quickly this guy responds

>White flour and sugar is not technically vegan
Why?

I should have said "some", but it's the use of bone char or bleaching agents derived from animal products.

He's fat, ergo he's lazy.

also get some sun with caution not to get sunburns
kombucha is better than b12 pills

Why waste money on supplements when you can just eat meat.

>muh animal rights
Not a rational answer. Stop caring about your food's feelings.

>muh animal rights
>muh healthier than eating meat
>muh environment
>muh cheaper than conventional diet
>muh ethical consistency
Yeah just eat meat wow how are people so retarded it's like vegans never thought about why they are vegans?

>Why waste money on supplements when you can just eat meat.
Eating meat is more expensive than getting a B12 supplement (even though the meat industry is heavily subsidized)

Listen your body. Veganism is a type of mental illness, people have lost the ability to listen to their own bodies.

Let these retards have their gay faggot thread. At least it keeps them out of the rest of the board. Plus their diet will slowly kill them and their fertility so they wont be breeding more retards at least

>Listen your body.
What does that even mean? My body tells me to eat pizza and french fries.

They contain molecules that mimic estrogen

Source

Evidence?
In what way does it mimic estrogen? What's the mechanism?

okay I want to switch to a plant based diet. currently my diet consists of beef rice and veg mostly. there isnt much info on training for strength or size on vegetarian diet so anyone have any tips or even meal plans

must be
>cheap Im a poor af student
>very high calorie
>low volume so no boating
>complete protein/micros etc

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18650557

Check out hench herbivore on yt. He's a vegan bodybuilder nutritionist. He's a cringe boomer but for nutritional advice he is good.

The key is dark leafy greens, and a fuck load of chickpeas. Learning to cook is an important part of it too as you can't just throw meat at something and expect it to work. If you do it right and cook aall your meals yourself it's cheaper than having meat and diary in your diet. That said invest in a b12 spray if not for anything else but peice of mind.
As a student don't concern yourself too much with it if you are out and need a snack and can't find anything, take it at your own pace: some people can do it all at once others need time.

Lower sperm concentration does not mean its mimicking estrogen, do you know how to science or should you go back to high-school?