So i got a blood test a couple months ago and the results say the following...
>"testosterone total: 313 ng/dL"
And there's a graphic on the labwork website that has a scale of the levels being low, normal, and high and mine is pinned on the normal section.l without any references.
What does Jow Forums take from this? I dont know what good & bad high & low testosterone counts are so am i low T or High T?
This isn't bait, im actualy serious
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Total T doesn't mean shit
Explain
No. Check with /fraud/ I'm tired of helping everyone
If all they gave you was a total T reading than that's a shit doctor. Don't get me started...
You're literally a female if someone from buzzfeed has more testosterone than you
your jew doctor wants you to become a trap so he can pound your boipucci
is that a bad thing?
I would let a decent looking jew doctor to pound my boipussy, he might date me,give me money and treat me well, it's a good deal
It's still important and a part of the equation. Especially if it's under 300 like most younger millenials and zoomers
The Asian guy just came out as gay too. As if it were a surprise.
the asian guy is good looking tho, and he doesn't need that much testosterone anyway since he's asian
Get on Test! My doctor gave me a test prescription with a T level of 400.
Pic is before and after. I feel great now on 150mg/week!
Total T is not indicative of how your body is using the testosterone. If your body is producing 1000ng/dl of total test but only 1% of that is actually bioavailable (i.e useful to your body) then there's an issue. However, if your body produces 300ng/dl but 99% of it is bioavailable then you're good.
I'm not a doctor, but that's it in very simple terms.
t. retard
Testosterone blood tests are only relevant if your hyperexaggerated one way or the other. T levels vary throughout the day in the first place. When I was a youngin' freaking out about if I was low T or not thanks to Jow Forums's meming, I begged my doc to test them and got 270 one week and felt like I got shot in the stomach, begged for a retake lmao and had 750ng/dl or whatever the unit is the next week. Don't stress it.
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have fun when your balls dont work
How do you get tested? Asking your gp?
Can someone explain why test levels are given such a broad "acceptable" range?
Someone post the one with the average test levels by age kek
Can you explain why you think it's not?
You know (((why)))
I think it's not because my limited education in biochem tells me that the range is incredibly large. I don't understand how having 3x the levels of someone in normal range could also be considered normal.
Taking HCG along with the Test dummy. I’ve got a prescription for everything I need under doctor supervision.
Lookup (your local city) men’s health clinic. Look around. When you set up the appointment say your low energy you don’t get boners any more and other low T issues. Do a blood test in the afternoon if possible(that’s when it’ll be lowest).
>"you don't need to be average goy, testosterone is on a spectrum and all men are equal. there's no such thing as "low" testosterone levels it's a spectrum. here's a complimentary s o y shake before you leave"
>thinks he knows more than a doctor
Went to med school
Gave it up for tech career in my 20s.
Best friend at the time was going for med school as a top surgeon. He gave it up as well. I actually had friends before
Lots of friends.
doctors really don't know everything about testosterone. they could always be wrong in what they currently think is normal. from everyone i've heard with T in the 300s range, their dick doesn't work. so idk. i feel like 300 should be considered too low.
It's considered normal because normal is defined by function. Balls work? Fertile? Have muscle, facial/body hair, and secondary sex characteristics? Normal.
>I'm going to reply to this thread acting all smart and shit but don't give information at the same time
>doctors don't know everything about testosterone
>anonymous guys on the internet do
Googled this shit for 2 seconds and it seems like if you are below 1k ng/dL you have shit genetics.
that's not at all what i said you absolute fucking retard. do doctors know everything about cancer? no. science improves as time goes on. grow a brain faggot
No. 1+k is outrageous genetic freak level.
doctors think the Holocaust happened
anonymous guys on the internet know it didn't
doctors also think that global warming is real, race is a social construct, there's more than 2 genders, trannies aren't mentally ill, homosexuality is normal, multi-culturalism for white countries is a strength, the white race is not a superior race
anonymous guys on the internet know that's not true
anonymous guys on the internet > doctors
rekt
>listening to a doctor over anonymous guys on the internet
absolute pleb tier
Test alone is jut the half of information. You need to know your free test levels as well.
Things you need to check, to be sure you're alright:
Testosterone
Free testosterone
Estrodiol
Prolactin
LH
FSH
Based on your number alone I could tell you're fucked. Your test levels are just as high as they should be if you would be 70yo
Its pretty easy to find out your free test levels without any bloodwork but it would be just an approximate number. Take 10% of your total test and usually it's the number of your free test, and even here you're fucked based on your t level.
You can ask your doctor about TRT or if you don't want to trade in your natty card, you can inject HCG (human chorionic gonadotrophin) 500iu every other day. It will boost your natural testosterone up to 500 in about two weeks and up to 700 in a month or two.
You implied that some anecdotal evidence from dudes who exhibit ED and happen to have lower end of normal Test are weighted the same as the culmination of medical knowledge on the matter.
Consider this: a guy is concerned about his Test and gets measured to find he 300 ng/dl. Now, he can't stop sweating it and he's given himself stress-induced ED. There's certainly a correlation between testosterone and libido but being at the lower end of normal is not causal of low libido, unless you have some valid evidence otherwise.
But science D:
>genetic freak level
I mean... you say freak.
But its hard for me to imagine not feeling sore for 3-4 days after lifting and going up in weight every time I lift, to me that's fucking normal.
I can't even imagine what its like doing the same shit for a month and seeing no change.
I didn't want to say anything but i think you're dumb for going on TRT with those natty levels
If you're under 35 you shouldn't have started TRT at all
this user is right
you have to weigh in things like prolactin and all those other factors as well
it's nuanced and multi-faceted
doctors are dumb shits that propogate the societal paradigm zietgeist of the time. if society said smoking is healthy your doctor is going to recommend you a pack of Marlboros. if society said it's okay to be a s o y boy faggot then you're doctors going to tell you there's nothing wrong with you when you're a s o y boy faggot sitting in front of him. people need to wake up and look at reality for themselves. the state and society are against us straight white males. they'll tell you s o y is a healthy super food. don't be an idiot, be a man and follow what's righteous
I have a friend who got tested at over 1k. He has trouble benching 185 for a single, has never really had visable abs. Natty high test is a meme.
>t. never had his test level checked and started lifting 2 weeks ago
fuck off jew
>muh lower end of normal
masculinity isn't a fucking spectrum you idiot. that's the societal zietgeist of the time. these idiots in science and medicine pretend race isn't even real because that's what society has funded them to say and learn. stop being a fucking lemming idiot whore to t he jews
what is considered the "lower end of normal" right now is outrageously abysmally low you low energy low T excuse making s o y fag. western civilisation white men have plummeting sperm counts lower than 3rd worlders, our T levels are declining, we're becoming docile and placid while being told it's normal
fuck off jew
I'm 38 and went from benching 150 5x5 to 225 5x5 in 2 months.
Honestly for me its perfectly conceivable that you could reach his physique if you took it seriously, I only lift once a week.
again, you're a retard. no one magically gives themselves stress related ED from a number that had no effect in the past. stop posting dyel
careful your mean post might give him stress related ED
Nice reading comprehension, moron. They weren't aware of their levels, and suddenly, fretting having low or close to low T causes them stress, causing ED. That's just one of many possible explanations.
yeah, i got that, and i said it just doesn't happen. that will not happen. post body
I got my test tested but it's in nmol and pmol/L instead of ng/dL. Is 641.4pmol/L low/normal/high for testosterone?
How fat are you?
If those levels are correct and that is actually you're pmol measurement for testosterone than honestly you basically have almost ZERO test in your system
Are you a woman or some fat dude that doesn't lift? Post blood work screen shot
>doctors think the Holocaust happened
>doctors also think that global warming is real, race is a social construct, there's more than 2 genders, trannies aren't mentally ill, homosexuality is normal, multi-culturalism for white countries is a strength, the white race is not a superior race
Because history and politics are not what they specialize in, retard. It's like to say "user > aero constructor in aero construction because user knows MUH JEWS".
blood levels of testosterone are meaningless
b4 you start posting "COPE COPE COPE" read up on shawn baker's level of testosterone on his 0 carb carnivore diet, then look at testosterone levels in tigers, lions, gorillas and chimps
humans on average have way higher testosterone than all these animals but total androgenic and anabolic activity is MUCH lower, why is this? because testosterone levels in the blood don't mean shit, it's all about androgenic activity which CAN ONLY BE MEASURED FROM A MUSCLE BIOPSY.
That's my total test. My testosterone is 28.6 nmol/L and SHBG is 35 nmol/L.
people living stresnous lives have lower testosterone
hunter gatherers have much lower testosterone than the average western urbanite
gorillas have less than half the average testosterone of the typical zoomer
you clearly have no fucking clue of what you speak.
I just got a blood test and I askd for test too because I read too much of your BS but now that I read this thread I realize this is useless.
Thanks for the 15 euros in the thrash u fuckers.
knowing about history and heritage is the thing you need to be taught first by your parents.
the fact that these people don't know jackshit means their bloodline is inferior to that of random guys on the internet.
not saying all of them are, there's 100% at least one of them on here.
So why not just test the signs rather than test level? You're full of shit cunt fuck off
>the gay chink has the most T
wh*tes btfo
When I was in twenties some test result was 200 nmol/l. The doctor said laughingly "at least your test is not a problem". I always wondered what he was saying as not sure what it was.
>he thinks his test was 5764 ng/dL
You're retarded.
Just got the results and i got 4,060 ng/ml
looks like an average result
So wait what is Testosterone Free Direct? Because I had my blood work done a few weeks back and I got 594 test total but with 10.2 test free direct.
>Jew
>Give you money
It's called a loan user
I mean (((who))) would manipulate medical standards to prevent guys with sub 500 levels from getting try?
Implying homos are low test
Those fags are huge, at least in my city there's a lot of beast mode jock homos
statistically that puts you near or in the range of hypogonadism, depending on the reference range provided by your lab.
however testosterone isn't the only male steroid, i think how you actually feel should matter, androgen physiology is complicated.
The AR CAG repeat length correlates significantly with serum T and estradiol of aging men. Weaker transcriptional activity of the AR with longer CAG-encoded polyglutamine repeats appears to be totally or nearly totally compensated for by higher T levels. The residual phenotypic correlations may reflect differences in estrogen levels/actions after aromatization of the higher T levels.
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serum T levels actually inversely correlate with genetic androgen sensitivity
Is the top table your natural levels or what you were prescribed?
If your total is low your free aint gonna be high either. Now if you got normal test, high SHBG can offset this
Most GPs and even endos are fucking clueless on TRT and hormones
>hormone specialist is clueless about hormones
okay m8 I'll listen to some gym rats from 4chin
> 313 ng/dL
More like 313 ngmi/dyeL
Test binds to a receptor to produce the effect. If you have lots of test but lots of proteins that capture and deactivate the test, and fewer receptors than normal then you're going to get poor results.
Normal people can have high T and normal people can have low T. Only issue is that it's normal to be 80 years old and to be a obese fatigued nerd who watches sissy hypno and eats onions.
What if you just take HCG, won't you just get massive balls? Imagine the loads you'll produce...
It's normal to be overweight, but we still not classify it as a healthy weight
Endos usually deal with diabetic fatties or boomers with no test. Not younger patients
Kablooey
Obesity is much better understood and obviously unhealthy than hormones. Seriously, average test levels are dropping and with it reference ranges. My test had fucking 160 ng/dL as the lower bound, you can be fucking freshly dead at the age of 120 and still have higher T.
>average test is dropping
>it's not a problem if we just lower the minimum
Lmao
I don't know if they're malicious or just stupid, but there is a serious problem
I measured 14 nmol in october and I'm constantly tired and not very horny, I literally feel like I was raised from a mausoleum every time I wake up. Could this be because of my test levels? I'm not very masculine otherwise.
Wtf, could this work?
My endo just ordered a total and free test screening then she said we will do other tests based on those numbers is that good?
>farts instead of argument
>lots of proteins that capture and deactivate the test
OMG, how to destroy this fucking protons?
Positive void coefficient
It's empirical. "Normal" testosterone is defined as within 1-ish standard deviations from the mean. This is kinda weird, since mean T levels have been dropping population-wide, so the range of "acceptable" T drops with it. On the flipside, how else would you define proper T levels?
What is juicing to impress other men for 500?
Binding of testestorone is not only to androgenic receptors but shbg can bind also. There is lots of factors which is genetic.
Everyone laughs at this but it turns out this is actually normal testosterone. The infograph that says they have the testosterone of 80 year old men is actually fake.
So a non doctor claiming to know more than a doctor
Wrong
show us your test levels then faggot
Some endos either totally dismiss the patient or prescribe them some dumb TRT protocol that'll only make them feel worse because the injection frequency is too far for example.
Most are treating diabetics and shit.
Good start.
What on earth is CAG?
Canadian-American Gulag
First, citation needed. Second even if that were true that doesn't mean it's okay that western testosterone levels are declining and declining with no end site. Totally cu cked mindset
gays are actually super-high test, this is an uncomfortable fact for everyone involved. straights hate it because they feel emasculated compared to their gay counterparts. the gays hate it because they had fanciful dreams of breaking down gender roles and stereotypes and ushering in a new masculinity.
turns out marinating yourself in masculinity (including in the partners you fuck) ends up turning you into some kind of test-monster. who knew?