There's absolutely nothing wrong with being female and not a virgin

And what's the point of that? Those who agreed with you before you wrote this will still agree with you, and those that didn't won't change their mind.

thank you op, I didn't think so either

Whatever, i at least have fun in my life. :^)

>being a loose woman is wrong
Fun fact, the term "loose woman" has nothing to do with vaginas
It originated from Victorian England where promiscuous women would lace their corsets loosely so they could get naked easier
The opposite is "strait-laced"

Aight point 1 is half mute. 2 and 3 still stand

There is absolutely everything wrong being a nonvirgin single woman.

t. roastie
t. cuck

What if you've only had sex with a romantic partner in the confines of long lasting, monogamous relationships?

Maybe you had good intents, but in the grand scheme of things, you're still a single, nonvirgin woman, most likely had tremendous amount of intimate moments with other guy, something that will be lost forever for me, her love will never be the same.

OP is REALLY a roastie today anons :)

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yeah, only trolls would claim otherwise
I see a lot of them in the thread already, which is pretty funny

Virgin male here, I agree... Tehre is nothign wrong with you loving your life and meeting with awesome dudes and having intimate connections with them. I just wasted my life beign a shut in neet. I accept it and love you just as much. I am not judgemental. It's not like I think every girl who touched a dude during my years of beign a shut in are sluts and whores and should have waited for me. That is like the supreme incel logic and is just fucking stupid.... Men have to be the dominant ones and go initiate relationships. I'm too much of an ego coward to ever do that though so I guess I'll enjoy being a virgin my whole life.

you've got a real head on those shoulders
you're gonna make it one day, dude

women dont have to go around getting penetrated by everyone you fucking idiot

Just because someone has had intimate moments with someone else doesn't mean they can't have intimate moments with you.

You honestly don't need to be dominant or initiate everything. Unfortunately, contact and interest is something men generally need to initiate before a woman sees them as a potential partner.
I personally don't think transitioning from an online LDR to an IRL relationship is as much of a meme as people make it out to be on r9k/chan in general. If you feel even a bit more confident online, I'd really suggest initiating that way if you want to try and pursue a romantic relationship.

>Just because someone has had intimate moments with someone else doesn't mean they can't have intimate moments with you.
It wont ever be the same, and it's fucking disgusting to think that you love someone and she fucking swallowed another guys semen. And this isn't fucking specific to so-called "incels", I've spoken to a bunch of virgin/young girls and they all say they're pretty jealous as well. Nothing wrong with that, and that's actually the most healthy way to look at it. Fuck you whores.

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Just accept your new thot overlords and take your place in the gynocentric social hierarchy with whatever dignity you're still allowed.

there is so fucking much wrong with being a female i'm afraid

>being a girl and thinking this
i agree with you op but you're not the person that should tell them. they're not gonna listen to a girl tell them what a girl should be able to do, that needs to come from a man, because they often lack a good mother figure. a girl suddenly trying to change their opinions won't go well
you're mostly right but you sound like a supreme cuckold
do you have any reasoning beyond "icky they have touched a penis that isn't mine" because once we establish that it's completely healthy physically and mentally to have multiple (i didn't say excessive amounts of) partners,
there's nothing to say except that you find it disgusting, for no other reason than that you're just extremely jealous and self conscious.
if you're the type of edge lord to say "well yeah, but so what i'm like that, girls shouldn't be this way in my eyes" then stop pushing your unfair, unhealthy point of view on other people, because it has no basis in any kind of logic besides your own sense of it, or in reality really.

Sure, as long as your married.

Oh right I forgot I'm supposed to only pretend to be okay with girls living their lives and being happy with other guys while I was jacking off alone in my room and actually be jealous insecure little bitch. Thanks for enlightening this cuckold.

I understand the unsettling nature of your partner having done "degenerate" things in the past with another person.
I just don't think it's any reason to scorn a non-virgin so vehemently.
I personally have a lot of issues with a partner's current/previous porn use. I find it disgusting and unsettling that someone would jack off to hundreds of women, sometimes even non-women.
That being said, I don't expect or demand a partner I have to have never watched porn/masturbated to a degenerate fantasy before.
I just ask they don't do it once/if we're together. To put that in the past. And commit entirely to me.

>i'm supposed to "pretend" to be okay with someone doing a human thing?!?!?
yes, your mindset is wrong, has no basis in reality, it's unhealthy, and it's unfair to expect that of someone.
>unfair to expect that someone isn't a total SLUT??!?
you should have standards, but not ones that dictate a girl has never lived the part of her life that you never got to experience.
>i'm a sad incel so she must be too
okay, fine, if that's what you really want, but don't start pushing that all girls are sluts and horrible people because they have sex. again, you have no reason to think that other than jealousy.

>because once we establish that it's completely healthy physically and mentally to have multiple partners
This will never happen, degenerate. You're a complete mental fuckup if you can somehow manage to bastardize such intimacy and make it seem like it's just any other activity. This is something that should only be experienced with one person, because only one person can understand the experience with you, and how far said experience can both make you go. It's something that cannot be replicated with anyone else.

If you fucking manage to make it seem normal to share this with everyone, that's because you really have nothing special left to share, and you're just as good as any inanimate fuckhole.

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your thinking and ideology were left behind a long time ago- for a good reason, i might point out.
obviously i'm not gonna convince you otherwise because you're the type of person to argue for the sole purpose of defending your claims, instead of listening to the other side. i'm not gonna try, so come back once you've grown up a little

watching porn isnt the same thing as actually touching someone elses vagina

Ive listened to your side enough, it's what everyone else in the world says, how about YOU listen to mine.

Maybe based on your perceptions.
I find porn usage just as unfaithful as cheating.
And I find degenerate fantasies just as unpleasant to think about as degenerate actions.
If you had a girlfriend, and she constantly fantasized about having sex with other men, even while sleeping with you, but never went through with it, are you saying you wouldn't be bothered whatsoever?

there is also nothing wrong with not wanting to date (let alone marry) non-virgins

so you're saying everybody else in the world is wrong and your viewpoints haven't changed at all since listening to theirs?
i think that means that you aren't really listening, again, you're just arguing.

Niether im just not a joblet and have a healthy view of the world

you mean you're just a normalfaggot sheep

if she still did it while we're together I wouldnt accept it, but otherwise if she watched porn while she was single, I cant really blame her
besides, women are mostly into erotica and that sort of thing as far as i know

what do you want, you want me to be like them, and them not changing at all? that's not fair.

I know theyre a bunch of idiots

nobody gets anywhere with that mindset. yes, it's the same one that the majority of all people hold, but that doesn't mean that you have to continue thinking that way about things. if instead of doubling down and defending your ideology to the very last breath, why don't you instead look at other conflicting ideologies, see why they're conflicting and recognize that it's impossible for your single ideology to be correct. you can get a lot smarter by adapting and changing your views based on what you personally think and what other people think, instead of sticking to one idea.
>i know they're a bunch of idiots
if you're going to refuse to learn or listen to opposing sides at all because they're "a bunch of idiots" then YOU are the idiot for not wanting to learn. and that's exactly what an idiot is, someone who doesn't know a lot, and often times refuses to learn. don't lower yourself to that level.

I've learned enough about all you degenerates. I'm here today because I've had enough "learning" about your crap. You only think about your side, you don't even know where we're coming from. Our ideas are both opposites, so it's impossible that they could both be right, and I absolutely believe I am right, and you in the wrong.

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No you dont, cuck

In any case, go chase your used up whores if thats what you want, thats the result of your thinking

it's another episode of user decides to subscribe to one political ideology and not even consider other points of view. i know this because i've already shared in this thread my views from both sides, and pointed out that i believe you should be listening instead of just arguing, yet user still doubles down and says
>no no no you're wrong and i'm right because you don't listen to me
and yet again, the purpose of what i've just said flies over your head
goodbye, good luck with your struggle, i hope you're able to think properly in the future

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A nonvirgin can never experience pure codependency.

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yeah, good luck to you, cuck/roastie

Ha that's a good joke user.

KEEP GOING PLEASE I LIKE IT

alright, good luck to you cuck/roastie

you cant forever stay in the middle, are you going to think about whos in the right for 50 years? at some point you'll get a grip

Looks like I hit a touchy spot

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a gay fag OP and sucking on the gay hooker every night for an extra $300 dollars retard.

>t. toastie roastie who has never had a meaningful relationship

Especially if she is married to the only sexual partner she ever had.

Just because my opinions make you angry doesn't mean I don't have them
This is the only correct answer in the thread.

>be a cuck or else you're a jealous incel!!!!

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Oof someones got mummy issues. Id rather be a "normalfaggot" than sucumb to your degeneracy. By the sounds of it youve had that little female approval in your life that you just wish you could go back to a time where women are property and you can be your little gremlin self and not be alone. Sadly weve grown up as a species and thats left people like you alone and miserable

And i will, gladly. Enjoy fucking either your hand or a roastie for the rest of your life because with your world view thats all youll end up with.

Look at this retard! The degenerate calls me a degenerate! Go on and marry a prostitute!

>fuck a diseased hole or else you're a degenerate

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You guys live in such a fucking pipeline world. Life isnt just black or white. Theres a ehole lot of grey

Same guy as this post. So heres a hypothetical for you. If a girl has sex with more than 1 guy shes diseased. But she must have then got it from guys having sex with multiple girls. But you guys glorify those guys and call them chads. Sounds like a whole lot of hypocrisy to me.

You're right. Mentally ill incels will disagree though

the grey you speak of, is a choice

The grey i speak of is the rest of society you neglect to include in your narsasitic self indulgent fueled nightmare

The rest of society are lemmings who don't know any better.

If you felt secure you wouldn't feel the need to come here to try to justify you behavior. You have some doubt at least you have the feeling the critics aren't 100% wrong

Yes, but only if you lost it to your husband, who also lost it to you, and who you are still married to (unless he died).

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>Socialization is a choice
Then why does noone want to talk with me for long and why many times is just eyecontact enough to openly disturb someone. We react to projections of hate

Mate im not talkimg about im talking about all the regular normal people who have safe sex dont get disease and move on with their life. As for you issue socialising i have no idea. I dont know what vibe you give off what you look like the situation your in so i cant comment and i wont pretend to know

A woman's honor is her virginity: if she isn't pure, untainted and wholesome by not being a virgin, then she loses her honor. There is a reason we call a horrible woman a "whore". It means she has no honor.

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But who attached a womans 'honor' to her virginity? Because im pretty sure it wasnt a womans choice to do that. This is reflected in this thread where i can garuntee all the people who see an issue with OPs statement are men.

It's the way of the World, user. Also, the reason why her only honor is her virginity is because she has not had any other sort. Women were weaker and not expected to do things like fighting and duelling, so of course she could not have any of these other sorts of honor, nor is there pressure for her to be academically achieved because she isn't expected to be the breadwinner. A woman's honor has historically always been her virginity.

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Well its not been for a while. I return to the point the only people who want this way of thinking back are men with shit personalities or are not attractive as it meant they could buy them. Its a time in history where women were items instead of people. Im not an sjw, i like them about as much as i like people who think like this. I despise hypocrisy. Theres a solid reason people who have this way of thinking arnt liked by females as a whole.

No, it keep existing. Men don't want to date and sure as hell don't want to marry a promiscuous girl. People still see young, virgin, innocent women as the highest standard for a girl to marry. It's just nature. Also, women are usually more childish than men and so no wonder we expect them to only focus on keeping herself pure and untainted.

A woman that fucks a new guy every weekend and has a new boyfriend every month has no honor. I know that from experience. I knew this girl from high school that was exactly this, guess what people think of her now?

>inb4 adhominem

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Good digits. However, you're not marriage material if you're not a virgin.
If you don't wish to get married and only want to pursue a career/get fucked every couple of days, then no, you can't make a moral negative out of it.

When it comes to sex, woman get it without problems: They just have to wait to get hit on. You don't have to actually do anything.

That's why a man who fucks multiple women is an alpha : He actually has to go out his way to talk to women.
A women with multiple sexual partner on the other hand, is a slut.

>There's absolutely nothing wrong with being female and not a virgin.
Absolutely true statement.

The only time anyone being a non-virgin is disgusting is when they aren't married.

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Im 19 and I have a steady boyfriend I plan on marrying and spending the rest of my life with and I really regret being a dumb whore in high school