STEM Major?

Biomed Engineering. I do nothing most days and have a good pay. AMA

CS. I wanna leave my shithole country, that's why.

I did molecular biology and then a master's in biotech and now I work in a medical laboratory.
Only other realistic options were antibiotic and pharmaceutical manufacturing plants and those are soul-sucking as FUCK.
If you're doing biology you can forget about how much you like plants and animals. No one will pay you to catch butterflies all day. Either worm your way into the medical sector or be a teacher or if you have no dignity you can be a sales representative.

Yes hello what country are you from?
Can you try to explain what Biomed Engineering is exactly? I'm not american so I wanna see what it corresponds to in my country.
How many years of uni before graduating and was it easy to get the job after?

I'm from Deutschland.
In biomedical engineering you basically develop all the technology that the health care sector works with.
So you can go for diagnostics, therapy or even for some crazy biomechanical stuff like prosthetics. It's really a wide field.

I only got a B. Sc. because I didn't like my uni and started looking for work. Uni took me 4 years and then I searched for a job for 8 months.
Getting a job is kind of hard because its a rather specific subject. But when there is a opportunity for work in this field you are almost guaranteed to get the job even before all the electrical or mechanical engineers that are applying.
You should look where the big companies are sitting. I live in an area that has not that much biomed engineering companies but I know of an area approx 200km from here where there are dozens of such companies and getting work is easy.
And even if you can't get a job in a renowned company you can always go for local hospitals. They regularly look for biomed engineers and its a good entry level job but the pay won't be that good.

I got a job at one of the biggest german biomed eng companied and the pay is awesome and they give me everything I need on top like a computer, ipad, car, etc... I work in service and have to look after our customers in a specific area (do repairs, install new systems, take orders, review customer wishes, etc). There is only work if a customer calls me so I basically play vidya and jerk off 50% of my work hours.

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Comp sci with stats minor

I'm a first year in ''Sanitary Biotechnology'' in France, I hope I can get a job like yours :/
I've been struggling with money for a while (I'm 18 and live by myself since all my relatives are in other countries)

CS, money and bitches, oh and I like computers

CS is memed so hard all the time everywhere by everyone that it's bound to become dogshit soon.
Oh and I will hate until the day I die the fact that mainstream dipshits ruined everything associated with computers, video games, and the Internet.

Technically still a CS major right now, but thinking of switching majors for multiple reasons. Being fucking flooded with bunch of normies, I wanted to create not manage data, and lost all my passion for coding. Going to major human computer interaction instead.

It's memed hard because programmers are expensive and companies don't want to pay so much, so they're trying to inflate the market by encouraging more people to get into it.
This has made web and game development 100% dogshit, but if you actually know real programming, you can easily make six figures.

I majored in math. I can't say it's the worst thing to study, you could go into banking and tech with a math degree - but those were never really my goal. My goal in college was just to land a slightly technical job a few years down the line, and I've achieved that. I suspect I would have been a lot more ambitious if I knew I had a family and a real waifu to support but whatever.

I didn't really take my career or my education seriously while I was at uni. Actually I completely mailed it in while I was there. So many stem guys are so desperate to "succeed" in the corporate world but for what?

If I could do it over again I'd try to get a blue collar public sector job. Perhaps something related to utilities.

Honestly university and education as a whole is a scam. A lot of people would be far better off financially dropping out of high school and working a minimum wage job.

>Honestly university and education as a whole is a scam.

Continuing on this note...

If you went to university thinking you'd be doing something other than collecting personal data and using it to price assets --- you're completely naive about the modern economy.

It's memed because the economy is such dogshit that it's really the only thing that pays these days. Unless you want to try your luck and get into medical school. America/Canada/Australia is really just 3 interrelated industries: tech (ie google/facebook selling data to governments/banks/insurance companies), finance(using data collected by tech), and real estate (the asset banks are betting on which most people have equity in).

Nearly, every office job I see posted online from a risk analyst at a bank, a "quant" at a hedge fund, data "scientist", digital marketing/advertising, is in some way related to this business process.

Companies have outsourced everything else. That's the crux of this gambling/casino economy. The focus is not on building things but on trying to figure out how much other people will pay for it (advertising space, real estate, insurance prices). The modern economy is a game of poker.

No one is colonizing mars. They're just bluffing they are so their asset valuations goes up.

I'm starting my automotive engineering degree next year, I hope I can be in the same field

Considering I'm getting paid to do a masters at a pharma company, you're wrong

Reminder that the SE and M in STEM are dead ends that will not net you a job when you get out of college.
Even the T is on the verge of saturation.
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Here's the graph with labels.

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Yep it's crap. You're competing for a shrinking number of jobs. People were deluded in the early 2000s that college degrees would help insulate them from the effects of job outsourcing that hit manufacturing/blue collar jobs.

I know people rag on liberal arts majors but there was a time, not that long ago, that getting a degree in say history would still give you a very good chance of landing a comfy, secure desk job. There was a time, not long ago, before that where you could land a comfy desk job with just a high school diploma.

The only reason there's a demand for tech is because we're living in a data collection, surveillance economy. Even the article you linked to has some dipshit PhD data "scientist" talking about the job he landed after a data science bootcamp.

"Today, Dr. Faham, 33, is a senior data scientist, working on a team that uses machine learning and statistical models to detect illicit activity on the social network, including fake job listings, ad fraud, spam and bot attacks.

The range of data-intensive detective work, he said, is "extremely rich" and "it moves so much faster than my previous world." He makes a "pretty good six-figure salary," about five times what he did as a postdoctoral researcher."

Even the captcha we're using now is being used to train a cv algorithm for self-driving cars or some kind of Yelp type website. Tech is probably tracking what you post right now and profiling you, just by surfing Jow Forums.

>started production engineering
>get told its a meme degree, basically the autistic kiddo in engineers family

Is that true? Do I quit before I waste my life? Tbh I kinda like it so far but I want to have job.

Meme degrees only exist for wageslaves, people that choose a degree because they want to make money, and not because they have a genuine interest in it. If you would do work in place of hobbies, then it is not a meme; simply by being highly invested in your work, you will overcome the uninterested wageslaves by orders of magnitude and naturally obtain high status and wages. If you only want the degree to make money, then it is definitely a meme and you should consider another career path.

>gonna graduate with my B.S. in applied math this summer
Wish me luck boys

Got a degree in electrical and computer engineering from a fancy ivy league school. Biggest mistake in my life. Should have just learned a trade and actually worked for a living.

thoughts on chemistry as a major?

I graduated with a BA in Athropology and work as an Archaeological field technician for a little more than half the year.
Jobs typically pay $12-$17 an hour but I get my meals and hotel paid for, and a lot of overtime.
So I come home from a job without having spent money on groceries for a few months.

A lot of those tech jobs require you to move to insanely expensive places like the bay area, where techies have basically destroyed any culture that was left there and displaced all the communities that lived there.

Do chemical engineering instead, you can transfer some of the credits.

Chemistry is hard but shit when it comes to getting a job

Im thinking of doing my bachelors in genetics, it mostly revolves around biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, genetics, bio chemistry and calculus

Did physics. Am now employed in finance as a quant making mad dosh. Life is good.

I have a civil engineering degree but is completely useless because I am a socailly retarded moron and I will never find a job. Degree is just a bunch of wasted time and money.

2nd Year Aerospace Engineering

>tfw everyone says your degree sounds interesting but they never want to talk to you about it

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Fun fact: In the UK, the most common sector for Physics grads to work in is Finance

Unironically astrophysics

>If so what major and why?
CS, because I don't want to socialize with people.

How's Civil Engineering doing as far as job prospects?

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I did psychology and my best friend did CSE. Guess which of us is making 90k/yr and which is 25k/yr. Hint, there is no twist ending here.

This. From what I hear a Public Health degree is basically these, but actually useful.

thanks my guy guy

Fun fact: physics is god tier. It prepares you for virtually any job.

DONT FUCKING GO INTO CHEMISTRY

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>Degree in civil engineering with no previous employment
No job
>Degree in civil engineering with previous employment
Job

Better buckle up to lick your lecturer and guest speaker's feet for those "networking" opportunities son. Or join the army, that's what I have to do

You did ROTC while you were in uni?

>Daily reminder to all bio and biochem majors that biology is a meme field unless you go into a health related graduate school
Biochemistry major and I can 100% agree with that. I'd add getting a PhD or Masters to being a meme also, and I'd add chemistry to an extent. Know too many post docs that are 30+ years old that haven't even cracked $60,000; they're basically just glorified contract workers for whatever top dog scientists the company loves.

Currently halfway through a Bachelor's in math because math was the only thing I was good at in high school. Kinda behind the curve though because I spent a year smoking weed beside a lake in my hometown before going to university. It seems that all the things I like are useless when it comes to making money and all the money-making stuff (probability, stats, machine-learning) is boring as hell.

ultimate redpill on the economy right there, though not as true here in Europe where university is free for the most part, so you might as well learn about something that interests you before becoming a wageslave because why the fuck not.

No I joined the army after I graduated because I couldn't really get a job and I understand why the military advertises so much in universities.
Also I'm in Bongland and I don't believe we have anything like a ROTC programme here, but I was in the reserves when I was at uni. Looks interesting though

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my goal is to be a medical lab director and I was talking to the director over the hospital i want to work at and she said she got a bachelors in chem and got in that way

i just see a lot of people wanting to work in clinical lab science and they all have bio degrees so i thought chem would help me stand out (also I sort of like chem)

That life science ratio is criminal and never discussed in college

Telling fibs
Turns out we have UOTC but it is too far away and I have never heard of it

You can wing getting a job just with a Civ Eng degree if you have the social skills to blast the interviews (which I couldn't). The industry wasn't as saturated with graduates like Mech Eng positions are, so you should be able to get a job if you go along with the networking
Good luck m80

Do chemE or minor in computer science. A chemE can do all the jobs a chemist can do, but a chemist has no access to chemE jobs. Minor in computer science so you'll have an easier time transitioning out of the lab once you realize how soul sucking and demoralizing it is

I wish I looked this shit up before I fucked up and got a BS in Biochemistry

ok
there are a lot of information systems and shit in the lab so you right
I'll take your advice

>not going to a good school that guarantees co-op experiences to anyone who ask
Smh

>not going to the closest university regardless of employment opportunities
Come on user

But this is le STEM master race, what's a few thousand extra spent compared to the "any job I want, 60-80K starting" career prospects afterwards?

What else is there to do honestly? Law? Medicine? Both of those fields are shit in their own ways. Lib arts is a total dead end. Tech pays alright but is being flooded with muh women in stem / girls who code shit and legions of third world pajeets so its going down hill. Trade is a meme and will break your body by middle age.

I did CS because I was already interested in programming as a kid, I made the mistake of staying in a flyover part of the country instead of moving to any major coastal city ASAP so my pay kind of sucks but I've managed to save up enough that I'm thinking of correcting that mistake fairly soon

I've also thought about either going back for grad school or a second degree but I'm not entirely sure what exactly, I just know that I want to start doing something more advanced and more rewarding than writing mediocre business software that nobody cares about

Don't blame the degree you literally just said you are retarded.

Penn State ARL. They will pay for your travel and moving expenses. Apply.

something like 30% of people who get a law degree practice law in america while it still costs a whole lot to get

If you want my real advice as someone that's trying to get the fuck out of this shitty field, I'd recommend just doing Computer science. Its honestly a very OP major in terms of pay and job potential. The ceiling is almost at ground level with just a Bachelors in the sciences, and it doesn't get too much better if you go to grad school. Would you want to spend 10+ years in school only to come out and be shafted into post-doc roles making under $50,000? And no, its not just academia doing post docs anymore, industry is getting in on the cheap labor also. I don't know a single Compsci major that started off at less than $50,000 (the one guy that did was a complete fuck up and got like a 2.0, but he's now making ~$80,000 after 4 years).

Law is mediocre unless you went to a top 5 school. With medicine you dont even start making good money until your 30s and you have hundreds of thousands in loans to pay off, and if you fail to get in to medical school youll be stuck with a shit tier bio degree

Lol I've seen this exact reply before. What a strange idea for a pasta.

second year of Biomedical sciences here, your words fill me hope user, giving me the motivation to get a good Bsc so I to can get a comfy job with preferably hot asian nurses

Theres maybe 5 hot asian nurses per hospital. The vast majority of them are 50 year old Filipinos or old bitchy white ladies

I'm a bioinformatics major, AMA

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Its not pasta, just the truth. I've stated this a lot on here whenever some naive person mentions they want to go into Chem/biochem/bio. Its a dead end career with a bachelors and a roll of the dice if you get a PhD. A Masters is viewed as a Bachelors with 2 years of experience, but some companies think more education = better, so its a toss up.

What do you do? Is it coding intensive, or more big data? How much do you make?

I wanted to do Bioinformatics in school, but thought I couldn't handle it because I knew nothing about programming. Really wish I just switched into it when they offered me too.

I studied electrical engineering but I dropped out before finishing my masters. Worst thing is there wasn't much left for me to do to receive my degree, I had even finished writing my thesis. I still managed to land a job in my field of study though so things could be worse. I work in the arms industry now.

I'm an undergraduate, and from what I know, a lot of what you asked is dependent on the particular job.

Graduated 14 months ago with a degree from the E(E) and M parts of STEM, now wageslaving for mediocre pay and trying to avoid alcoholism

AMA

I got an electrical engineering degree from a no name school and am about to start an entry level job for 55k/year. I could probably make more at another company but the cost of living in my town is pretty low. Reading this thread makes me feel pretty lucky.

If any prospective engineers are reading this, INTERN WHILE YOU ARE IN SCHOOL.

How's Computer/Electrical Engineering? I'm graduating in less than three months and I'm considering either that or CompSci, but I've grown to hate the "Science is fucking AWESOME" and "Girls who Tech" brand of normies that infiltrate CS nowadays. also I'm probably going to a school with a surprisingly large population of pajeets, should I be concerned?

I've been hospitalised many times here in bongland. they make up the large majority here, or atleast my local hospital.
one even took a urine sample off me once because I couldn't move my arms so she had to aim, still jerk off to the memory multiple years later

You have a very high school mentality

Im just about done with my first year engineering and have to chise which branch I want to go into. Any thoughts on AAE vs EE? I kind of want to work on sensors for spacecraft.

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no that would mean he's right, retard.

Would they take someone who just has a bachelors though?

If you're that close to graduating, just finish and get certs or some shit later to make up any skills your current degree didn't give you.

What about medicinal chemistry. I ultimately want to invent new psychoactive drugs. Am I memeing myself?

which degree is the most anti-social?

None of them because you'll always need "muh networking" to get a job in this day and age.

Don't know too much about medicinal, I've tried to get a couple jobs in research labs relating to drug discovery, but you have to know someone or have stellar letters of rec from professors or other PhDs you've worked with.
> I ultimately want to invent new psychoactive drugs. Am I memeing myself?
Yes. But you're the same as pretty much everyone that goes into chem/biochem, even me. We have these delusions that we'll discover some useful shit and be a great researcher working with near autonomy, and the simple fact is that for the vast majority, that isn't the case. Not saying you can't do it, but you have to be realistic. You can go for it, but just minor in Compsci and make coding a hobby so you have something to fall back on.

>make coding a hobby so you can at least make money
why does making money have to be so fucking boring or hard.

Most STEM degrees are useless by themselves with just a undergrad degree and little better than a humanities degree. Exceptions for flexible ones like math/stats, physics, cs. The prospects improve with grad degree

If you have to choose either EE or CompE, go for EE. CompE is harder than either EE and CS and has shit job prospects, and is a borderline meme degree. My school has a job fair specifically for electrical and computer engineering students, and half of the employers excluded CompEs entirely while all of them had positions for EE majors.

TL;DR: Just stay a NEET.

I am doing CybSecurity and Enterprise Systems. Seems more fun to me than building and creating programs. So far I enjoy it at least

The US born indians are pretty cool people for the most part. Most india born indians are in grad school, and they don't shit on the street.

idk
>The prospects improve with grad degree
Not really with the sciences. A Masters in chem/biochem/bio is looked at as the same with a bachelors and two years of experience in industry. A PhD does let you go to the top of the career field, but you'll most likely be a shitty postdoc making ~$45,000 in academia(industry also, they're switching to cheap postdoc labor) or luck out and get a scientist role in industry starting around $80,000 if you're lucky. Why waste your 20s and miss out on earning money and establishing yourself in your career and buying a house, just to be stressed out getting an advanced degree that is becoming less and less useful

Why?

As a non-EE/non-CompE major, isn't the coursework similar enough that they can basically do the same job? What the hell is wrong with these employers?

Don't they take 80% of the same credits, the same CS/Math/Engineering coursework?

The number of hoops to jump in this economy:
-Go to a good college
-Choose STEM
-Intern at the right places
-Choose the right STEM field
-Choose a computer related STEM field
-But don't choose CompE
-Oh and you owe us 50k for the tuition, the overpriced books, the overpriced campus residence

Wtf?

>TL;DR: Just stay a NEET.
This. Jack off in your parents basement from age 18-30 and you're better off than a Masters in Biochem.

>mfw also stem major

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