Fuck my life

women dont make sense. dont even try to understand it, just dont fall victim to it.

Back-up plan for if/when things don't work out with her first choice.

It's the same reason people say they want to "take a break". They've caught sight of a higher branch and want to swing on it, but if it doesn't work out, they want to be able to come back and say they didn't cheat.

>hit it off with really cute girl
>same interest
>she stops responding for two weeks
>figure she found a chad
>texts me 3 weeks later asking to hang out
>dont respond

How do you think it feels, as an attractive angelic girl, to have an ugly as fuck dude not respond to you?

>she sent me a lot of selfies even pretty risque ones until the "Lets just be friends" message
Between this and her staying as long as possible (longer, actually), it sounds like she got her pussy wet for you and you made the unforgivable mistake of not fucking her in it.

>the moment she mentions friends you get out
the moment she mentions friends YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE

you can get out, sure, but rather than going the "I know what that means, peace!" route, you can also go the "I'm too attracted to you to think we'd work out as just friends." and see if the problem is that she's been DtF and you've been friendzoning her.

>see if the problem is that she's been DtF and YOU'VE been friendzoning her.
It doesn't work that way. If a woman is interested in you, she will make it very obvious. You would know if shes DtF from the start.

Wasn't given the chance, was ready to fuck her on the second date but she was busy the next day for work and then we weren't able to meet up in the week after, we did plan on going to an exhibition the following week but then shortly after organising that I got the ghost then "lets be friends message".
I agree she was wet for me, but I suspect she probably went on another date after me and then got wet for that guy and fucked him instead because they had the opportunity at that time.

You know what feels better than being an ugly as fuck dude and leaving the attractive angelic girl on read?
Coming inside her and then leaving her on read.

>being as petty as a high school girl

Kys senpai, if leaving girls on read makes you feel powerful, then you are one weak and pathetic dude. Im not defending roasts, here, im just saying.

She wanted dick and you're a pussy. Fuck first and worry about a relationship never. Learn your lesson pussy boy and don't get cucked again. Or keep going on dates and get constantly used and abused.
Oh and if a girl who's actually hot goes on a date with a guy through tinder, she's just using you for a free meal and entertainment. Either way, fuck or get fucked over.

Guy that actually has a bunch of female friends I pick the brains of.
Girls very often have a system of an A, B, C guy because they have so much choice. They go for A guy, if he's a dick or a creep or has a small dick, they then fall back on guy B, again then guy C. They rope along the three guys even if she's seeing guy A, because you know maybe in a few weeks he will show himself to be a pedophile or Redditor or something so you want your backups there in case that happens.
OP was likely guy B, maybe even guy A for a while if she was sending horny selfies. Just bad timing he wasn't able to dick her first.

>tinder dates
>friends
Get the fuck out

>tinder dates
these women (especially if they are as beautiful as you say she is) get dozens of matches every single day. There is just an abundance of choice on that app. I know it sucks but you always got to keep that in mind. 100 of these guys are trying to get in her pants and you're competing with every single one of them.

You did a fine job blocking her.

>It doesn't work that way.
The Friendzone is fundamentally a collaborative affair. You have to put her in the friendzone just as much as she has to put you there. And you each have to stay there.
>If a woman is interested in you, she will make it very obvious. You would know if shes DtF from the start.
Girls fear rejection and fear being percieved as a slut. If you know what to look for and watch how she responds to your advances, yes, it's pretty obvious... but this is Jow Forums.

1. Tinder
2. Second date.
3. Staying an hour past the planned end time.

I don't even want to ask for details because she could probably have stuck her fingers in OPs mouth and begun vigorously masturbating using his saliva for lube and he'd remind her that she had work in the morning and should go home to sleep.

>she stayed an hour over the time she had to be home by (had work at like 5am the next morning) again
>wasn't given the chance
YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

I met my girlfriend on Tinder and we've since moved in together. Then again, we were friends for months before that and we're both girls.

>what is context
Leaving her on read was already the prior poster's plan.
I'd friends-with-benefitszone the achingly beautiful thots of the world.

>we're both girls.
None of this applies to same sex relationships

Don't let the crabs drag you back down into the bucket. You gave it a shot and that's what matters. You got a date with one angelic qt you can do it again.

>Don't let the crabs drag you back down into the bucket.
We're just trying to give him advice on why women behave the way they do.
>ironically on r9k.
Maybe he will have a better understanding on his next date, idk.

But I'm trans and she's not, which would make it 'straight' to a lot of the people here, right? Penis and vagina.

>We're just trying to give him advice on why women behave the way they do.
But most of you have absolutely zero experience in relationships with women and in dating. This is like a person, blind from birth, trying to describe to me things I can see based on what they've been told.

>Maybe he will have a better understanding on his next date, idk.
Hopefully. I suspect this is the issue with a lot of robots though: they put themselves out there, get rejected (like everyone does initially) and never learn from it, either giving up completely or refusing to change they way they act. A lot of robots who posted pics before it was banned weren't so bad looking which is sad because the miserable existence they lead is essentially a prison of their own making.

>mfw when the mentally ill give advice

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>But I'm trans and she's not, which would make it 'straight' to a lot of the people here, right? Penis and vagina.
just date a guy ffs if u want a dick so bad

Are you ugly, OP? Not to be a dick.

Y'all make any porn?

Uhh, user.
Whats her first name and what city are you in because this sounds suspiciously familiar.

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No, she's the woman with the vagina.

She draws furry porn and I'm a lawyer.

I want to help, but i know i cant. it hurts to see OP have to go through this and end up a 25yo loser like the rest of us here.

>end up a 25yo loser like the rest of us here.
Ha-HA! yeah... 25...
*mufled gunshot*

>she's the woman with the vagina.
And what are you? Apart from delusional and mentally disturbed.

I give off a massive awkward nerd aura apparently, but I've also been told I'm quite good looking physically. I personally would say I'm a 4/10 but had female friends say I'm around a 7 or 8 out of 10. (6'3, Ancient greek style curly locks (pic related, actually in public girls will come up to me and ask to touch my hair, serious), big brown eyes etc).
I think I could do well if I wasn't such a social fucking autist with massive anxiety issues but I am.

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It's not too late, user. It's never too late to turn things around.

You can think that, but I've taken more money with the courts from people who thought that than you probably have seen in your life.

Please describe the "chad" she was with by way of compare and contrast.

>It's never too late
No woman wants an inexperienced man. You can find a million posts on the internet about shit like this, i dont even have to explain it.

This is better than average bait I guess. 6/10.

The modern nuclear family, folks.

7'2, Ginger, balding, wearing a singlet and super tight briefs. fat belly but huge muscally arms, hairy as fuck legs.

Does she draw hardcore stuff? What kind? I'm curious about the kind of porn female artists draw. I tend to think of women as sexually dull and drawing softcore crap or, for the insane ones, into drawing violence and guro, but pretty much nothing else.

Is LARP, no worries.
I'm nearly 40, divorced, have a couple kids, etc. A 22yo /b/tard rapeslut I spoke with briefly in January before she got cold feet and ghosted added me as a friend on snapchat yesterday... so... not really that concerned about my sex life.

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Probably 6'4 or 6'5, muscular but toned, wearing expensive suit, looked pretty close to pic related.

Forgot pic, this is basically what he looked like but he also had big hipster glasses as well.

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>A 22yo /b/tard rapeslut I spoke with briefly in January before she got cold feet and ghosted added me as a friend on snapchat yesterday.
dont forget about OP now..

No it's not. It doesn't even answer the question. Trannies fucking up as usual.

You should have said hi and not given a shit, just like you did when texting. Should have also looked Chad in the eyes and introduced yourself. Then fucked off back to your friends, who you should have told where to sit. If you had a girl you're good friends with in your friend group you could have told her the situation and asked her if she'd be up for making Becky and Chad jealous. A good female friend will totally be a bro and do that for you.

Then you should have not ghosted Tinder girl and instead waited for her to want your cock after Club Chad doesn't work out. That is if you're even interested in her anymore.

Btw I don't think you got friendzoned before all that. I think you just got put in reserve and milked for emotional attention while she kept you as a possibility for a future relationship. I don't think it's ever a good idea to spend long hours texting and talking to a girl you've barely started dating. Do the talking on the date, and if she wants to talk to you let her come see you in person where there's an actual possibility for chemistry during it. Texts are cockblocks. I'd also guess you weren't proactive sexually in them. If you post the texts without any personal deets I can tell you with 100% certainty which it is.

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EVERY man is inexperienced at one point. Considering I've actually been in relationships before and have friends I'm not going to bother reading some crab internet post.

Good for you user.

>Trannies fucking up as usual.
its like they have this attitude that everything is all about them. must be the media

>at one point
and for us r9k folks, we're at the point were it becomes unacceptable. when was the first time you've had sex, 16? were talking about guys over 20 here

If OP lives near enough to be willing to travel, he can be first in line after I get bored of her.

>must be the media
Or it could be the mental illness and the chronic enabling by sick enablers.

>when was the first time you've had sex, 16?
Around there but I know guys who were in their mid 20s when they first had sex and they ended up accruing a body count similar to mine. Trust me, I've phoned it in plenty of times when smashing a girl and many other guys have too. If you get called out on being a shitty lay just blow it off, don't admit you're inexperienced. The only thing you need to worry about is actually figuring the aim out to get your cock actually inside her. I'm not small at all but I struggled for awhile until I figured it out, I needed my gf to insert me into her for me. There are little tricks to make sure you get it though, you'll figure it out.

Hey user. Mind greentexting some brief stories of your sex life since divorce? Preferably by starting with a background on what lead to the divorce and situation with the wife, followed by whatever personal stuff you went through after, followed by sex stories - as raw and and honest as you can.

Thanks. Be as brief or as elaborate as you want on any of those parts. Would love to hear it. You sound like an interesting person.

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Degeneracy is practically a coping mechanism for your depression.
Seriously user, why are you still wasting time?
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Had known ex-wife since 16, had been dating off&on since 18, got married at 24, divorced at 30 in 2010. Pretty sure it was her plan all along to never work a day in her life, but I think she could tell that was starting to wear thing, so if she was going to have to get a job ANYWAY, she might as well get a job AND get 50% of my take-home pay (tax free for her, mind you) AND not have to deal with me not having joint-everything with her anymore since I'd caught her raiding an earmarked savings account.

I kind of mentally reset to before we started Seriously Dating and got back on /b/. Started talking to an 18 year old who was going to school 1000 miles away. Too young. Too far. But we got along well, she'd listen to me talk about whatever my exwife was suing me about that month, I'd listen to her talk about how much she hated engineering, then astronomy, then physics.

In 2011 one of my brothers died. I'd recently gotten a job offer that was out of state and had been debating taking it as it paid much MUCH better than anything I'd seen in our area... I'd drive right by it on the way to my brother's funeral and could do all the hiring paperwork. etc. As was fucking my ex-wife for what would be the last time, I realized I didn't want to keep living like this and told her about the job offer, she agreed to "work with me". She filed for an adjustment to child support less that a week later. Basically priced me out of ever being able to move back home while my kids were under 18.

The (now) 19 year old popped back up when the 2011 fall semester started and we caught up on each other's sumertime happenings. She joked that now she was only 500 miles away so we could totally hang out.

Eventually did in 2012 as part of a roadtrip to somewhere else where she was along the way (and not 500mi away) and found out we got along even better in person than we did online. Started banging when she was 20 and I was 32. Continued banging until 2016. >>>

In 2013, one of the 20 year olds friends sexually assaulted me. She was 26, I was 33. Included for the sake of completeness.

In mid-summer 2016, several months after the LDR ended, started seeing a girl from OkCupid. She claimed to be 27, but based on the ages of her friends she'd known since college, she was probably really 30 or so. I was 36. Continued banging her well into 2017, but every time she'd call and come over it just reinforced how little I liked her compared to the LDR girl. Her graduate degree prpgram finished and she moved, haven't seen her again.

Didn't really have any interest or motivation for a year. Did go meet up with a girl from candid under conditions of complete anonymity (didn't trade pics or anything, mostly was trying to get her to not agree to it) and that we'd go see a movie. She was alright looking but had a lisp. She was too passive to make the first move and I didn't want to.

After a year, I thought about how I'd banged someone every calendar year since losing my virginity and needed to get laid for 2018 to not break the streak.

Did the No Trading Pics Beforehand thing on whisper for a few months. Eventually had a girl agree. She was... bland? She was super obviously rapebaiting the whole time, which I probably would've been down for of she was cuter, but... she wasn't.

A second girl I was talking to and kind of on the fence about the No Pics thing turned out to be IRL friends with the first girl. Second girl starts some kind of drama about first girl going out with me when she has a boyfriend, which backfires because second girl is cheating om HER BF with first girl's BF.

So second girl's BF breaks up with her and moves out of the apartment they're renting month-to-month, so she's having a meltdown about being homeless/friendless and I'm the only person that'll still talk to her. She gets sad and lonely and asks if my offer to hangout and drink and snuggle is still open.>>>

>she sent me a lot of selfies even pretty risque ones
let's see them user

I figure she talked to First Girl and knows what I look like, so she's disqualified for being my 2018 sex partner, so I say sure.

She's 21. Chubby girl with itty bitty titties, but you can tell she was SUPER hot a few years ago when she was still skinny. She proceeds to get blackout drunk and tell me about how she regularly fucked her mom's 38 year old ex-BF when she was 16 (legal in these parts, BTW) in delightfully graphic detail. Also her uniform for platonic snugglin' was tiny thong panties. Shortly before she falls asleep she talks about how I didn't look like she expected, so she didn't talk to First Girl. Hmmm. Little bit of groping, but she's pretty out of it.

In the middle of the night she gets up and I hear her crash into a wall on the way to the bathroom. I help her up and walk her the rest of the way. She doesn't come back to bed and I go check on her. I find her unconscious partially on the couch, apparently was changing into a somehow even tinier pair of thong panties and passed out from bending over or standing back up.

Ass and pussy on display where she's limply draped over the arm of my couch. Exquisitely pink, and I decide I definitely want to fuck her. Touch her more than necessary to get her completely on the couch in a stable recovery postion. She is completely unresponsive and I debate whether it would be worth the trouble to rape her. Penis decides it isn't. Throw a blanket over her and go back to bed.

Wake up the next morning when she crawls back into bed with me to resume cuddling. I'm slowly working towards figuring out whether she's still cool with me putting my hands on her tits (well, nipples, really, not much tits to speak of) when she says "touch my butt", so I include that in the roaming circuit my hands are making around her body.

She changes positions slightly to provide more space, and after pausing briefly on the usual route I slide my hand between her legs and start rubbing her pussy.>>>

She lets out a shockingly loud moan. After a bit I move the tiny thong to the side to slide a finger in. She rolls up onto her knees so she can get even louder, and I kneel behind her to continue finger fucking her. She sticks a hand back between her legs and paws around until she finds my cock and squeezes it appreciatively.
"Do you have any condoms?"
"Yeah."
She lets go of me and pulls her panties down "Get one."
In this position I can't really see any of her chubbiness or how she has no tits, and even if I could I'd be distracted by the perfect glistening pinkness as she masturbates while waiting for me.

She again does an experimental squeeze with one hand, probably to make sure I really did put on a condom, and then kinda pulls me forward while moving herself back. She somehow gets even louder. And louder still when she comes. Then she asks what I'm laughing about kind of like she can't decide if she's upset, which I hadn't noticed I was doing so I fuck her until she comes again as a distraction and then stop.

She notices I didn't come and is SUPER upset about that, throws a self-pity party about how she's there's nothing about her that's attractive (I still jerk off thinking about how perfectly pink her genitals were), and asks me to drive her home.

I fall back asleep and I wake up to several walls of text about how she's ugly and worthless and how she forced me to have sex with her when I didn't want to and she's a terrible person. I try to say some reassuring things, but eventually give up as she keeps repeating herself regardless of what I say and mute her notifications.

A couple weeks later I see a whisper post from First Girl that appears to be about Second Girl committing suicide.

Spend a lot of time thinking about that.

Decide to get 2019 out of the way as soon as possible and then not worry about it again until late 2020.>>>

you sure know how to spin a tale about fucking women after getting well and truly fucked by one.

Damn dude, you never met up again to get that pink pussy?
I'm a 28yo virgin and just thinking how nice it would be to have a girl like that to fuck. Like, not attractive enough to get feelings, but a nice pussy to lick and fuck on the regular.

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women instinctually collect backup men.

That turned dramatic fast. Checking back later for your next posts.

So, January 2019. I write something in a /soc state meet-up thread about finding an unexpectedly attractive junkie girl squatting a foreclosed property I was inspecting. And while all I did was check her out quietly from a distance to confirm she was breathing/alive, I think about her from time to time when I look at other similarly abandoned houses and would kind of like to meet up with someone in one of these decrepit properties and fuck. A girl looks through the rest of the thread until she find a post where my ID dropped contact info and messages me.

We talk for a bit and it turns out she's about an hour away. She makes two abortive attempts to make the drive down to see me.

In the same timeframe I'm talking to the originally mentioned 22yo rapeslut from /b/. She's already given me her address (which is also about an hour away in a different direction) and a generic schedule of when her BF is usually at work and she'll be alone. I have to drive over by the rapeslut's area for an unrelated reason, so I call her to set up a meeting. She sounds like a frightened little girl who doesn't know what she's gotten herself into. She promises to call me back. She still hasn't.

The other 2019 girl has begun talking about making a third attempt, she makes it this time and is really REALLY cute. And that particular mix of slutty and clingy and compliant that I like. And I realize for the first time since I broke up with LDR girl from 2012-2016 that I've met someone that I might WANT to have a relationship with again.

She brings up the story about raping a junkie girl in an abandoned house.
I correct her that's not what the story was about.
But could I really do something like that?
Why? Does she want to go house hunting?
We'd need a safeword first.
Unless she wants to be able to use "No.", "Stop.", etc. and have them ignored, a safeword isn't necessary.
She does. She picks one.
Starting now?
Her eyes grow wide with panic, but she nods.

why do you get turned on by and save pictures of cum?

So I can pretend it's my cum of course. Why do people view porn in general, to self insert.

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yes but no matter how much you try to self insert, the fact is that you're looking a picture of another man's cum. Now if it were milk or some kind of fake cum i would understand. True gentlemen like me only watch female solo masturbation porn

If she'd calmed down, kept the crazy/insecurity to a low roar, and hit me up again, I'd probably have continued hanging out with her to see if I trusted her enough to let her live with me.

Install her on my couch as a pet fucktoy. Make her exercise and restrict her calories until she was hot again. Never let her wear clothes. Get her tasteful breast implants.

But like I said: AFAIK, the reason I never heard from her again is because she commited suicide.

I've given up hope of getting a gf, since the only ones interested in me are single moms or ugly fat girls. Doesn't really matter what kind of porn I watch at this point.

Hm, I see what you mean. I once had an online thing with a girl who was that crazy insecure and it was hard to deal with.
>Install her on my couch as a pet fucktoy. Make her exercise and restrict her calories until she was hot again. Never let her wear clothes. Get her tasteful breast implants.
Well that's another option

None of the girls in my examples were single moms and only one was ugly and fat, (though even then not that bad).

They're probably all on the wrong side of the Crazy/Hot curve, but we wouldn't have to warn people not to stick their dick in crazy if crazy didn't fuck so gooooood.

Don't give crazy a baby, though.

OP why didn't you make a move? She stayed over an hour later? The fuck bro?