How much better does it feel to have sex than jerking off? I don't care about romance or love...

How much better does it feel to have sex than jerking off? I don't care about romance or love, I only care about women for the sexual aspect if that matters.

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dude look up definition of an incel LOL u fucking incel

what are you actually talking about my man

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It feels worse. I mean... it depends really, at first it can feel better but it really depends on a lot of factors like position, how wet she is, your body temperatures and so on.

A bit factor as a guy which women seem TOTALLY FUCKING IGNORANT OF is that guys are very visually aroused, so without any visual stimulation or in situations where you're uncomfortable (under a blanket? for fuck's sake literally, it's too god damn hot for physical activity under a literal fucking blanket you fuckers!), it actually ends up being just not worth the effort.

The main factor is how aroused you are. If you are having sex with someone you don't even like that much it's actually way worse.

I've only ever gotten head, so not sure about sex, but it's clearly better. Not by an astronomical amount, but like, better

Adding to this, if you're desensitized from porn, it's incredibly boring.

In other words if she's insecure forget that dumb bitch she's a waste of your time, just take pics of her butthole, tell her to get the fuck out and go home so you can jerk off.

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First time I creampied a girl felt like nothing else
With every spurt it felt like my dick was melting inside her

real sex feels worse after "#metoo",rape shield laws and "yes means yes". feminist gave emotional children a loaded gun and having sex with women is like playing Russian roulette with your life. having real sex is not enjoyable.

You don't use lube huh? Don't go bareback and if you're not cut don't pull your pud. Use lube, the stimulation is 100x more intense and totally defeats the purpose of a vagina because it's essentially the same thing.

The only difference is the material, which is why they make sex toys like the fleshlights which are WAY BETTER than a vagina could ever be and also IT DOESN'T TALK.

You don't need to slap a fleshlight and tell her "shut up, bitch!" because she doesn't even have a mouth. She only has a vag or butthole and you can just rinse her off with the hose when you're done.

The main difference then is arousal... so being romantically involved and having visual stimulation are key. Without BOTH there is no appeal at all because it feels the same as lube + toys + porn psychically, so the only part you're missing is the emotional arousal.

So should I just buy a fleshlight then? I'm completely over wanting to be with a woman other than fucking them.

Absolutely. If you can't make a significant emotional connection and "feel in love" it's absolutely pointless. You need to jerk off or use a toy until you can get over being hurt from past experiences and get lucky enough to meet someone you can make a valid connection with again.

Modern women are like god damn robots, they're soulless and pathetic.

It's worse actually,it's a lot more comfortable doing it at your own comfort however you want. Unless you are in love with the person you're doing it with your pleasure will be less than if you were fapping. That's my take on it anyway,do it at least once with a prostitute if you're curious but sex is really just wasted effort and money.

>other than fucking them.
This makes you willing to give up all your other cards to trade them in for something worthless.

Don't let yourself fall into that trap. You're a lot more valuable than a vagina, so don't trade everything you've got for a useless slab of meat.

... honestly just buy a slab of meat, it's cheaper.

Fleshlights don't have tits and assess. You'd also never perform cunnilingus on a fleshlight.

>just get a doll
Dolls don't react to stimuli, so you never get the sensation of her screaming or leglocking pleasure. There is really nothing that compares to fucking a female, but masturbatory aids still feel pretty good in a pinch.

Do you/guys enjoy performing cunnilingus? I don't really care about making the girl feel good, I just wanna feel good. What's good about eating a girl out?

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>What's good about eating a girl out?

Not getting cheated on

>You'd also never perform cunnilingus on a fleshlight.
Are you stupid or something? I wouldn't perform it on most women either. Why the fuck should I? If my only goal is to get off I don't need to care about someone.

Caring about someone else is a trap for you if the feeling and respect isn't 100% remunerated.

Don't fall into that trap and get used emotionally either. That's infinitely worse than being physically used which is at least kind of fun.

It doesn't feel much better strictly speaking, but it's psychologically much more satisfying.

It's a chore but it's tolerable. I don't really like the taste and feel but it's the fastest way to make a girl orgasm.

>remunerated
Or "reciprocated." In other words you better be getting 100% of everything you invest given back to you. Otherwise you're only losing out.

>So should I just buy a fleshlight then?

yes saves you cost of dinner dates,false rape and HIV fucking your shit up for life.

Must suck to be a bitter cunt, man. I enjoy eating out girls if they are trusted partners. If you don't care about the sexual satisfaction of your partners, you probably don't get laid often.

It must suck being so dumb and making invalid assumptions about everyone. Sorry bro.

Not him, but I don't care about the sexual satisfaction of anyone else. I literally only care if I feel good.

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I'm 4/5 of the posts in this thread :)

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I'm not the one advocating leaving women sexually unsatisfied out of selfish insecurity.

Just don't be surprised when you get cheated on then.

>I'm not the one advocating leaving women sexually unsatisfied out of selfish insecurity.
You're projecting.

But I don't WANT to be in a relationship with any woman. I just want to fuck them.

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I would rather suck a dick than put my mouth on a woman like that, and I am not even gay.

Then fuck prostitutes or bar sluts. It's understandable to not give a fuck about their pleasure, but if you're talking about leaving a gf/wife like that its inexcusable.

>You're projecting.

seeThis is 100% selfish and insecure. Saying you don't care about a partner's sexual needs because you don't want to get attached or used is just an excuse for weak dick game.

>I would rather suck a dick
>I am not even gay.

One of these things is not like the other

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Women are repulsive, and gay men are just as repulsive, except they are less likely to be cunts.

So you have very poor reading comprehension.

That's not surprising, most people do. I didn't say any of the things you claim I said in my post[s] though.

You're literally samefagging this whole thread, so I guarantee it was (You). Anyway I'm done with this thread because you're not interested in learning, just spouting bullshit that does more harm to robots than good.

>weak dick game.
This is why I said you're projecting. Try being a decent human being for once. Either that or be a hero. Save the world from yourself.

BE A REAL HERO!! SAVE US user! NONE OF US WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU!!

Definitely get a fleshlight. I have a tenga fliphole that feels really good, but I'd still try sex if I got the chance. Using a toy is definitely better than just my hand though.

It's wet and warm, depending of your partner it's at worst awkward as fuck and not enjoyable at all, at best ,assuming it's the 1st time with the girl you like and she's not passive, better than jerking off by about 50%.

Generally speaking it's all in your head, if you want the best cock sensations then get a fleshlight, no pussy can compete with what japanese onahole designers can come up with.

Also take into account that with actual pussy there is a before and after, so it costs time, money, mental energy, motivation... The costs can sometime be really high if we include indirect expenses like gym membership, clothing, haircuts, grooming products, and direct expenses like dinner, cab, flat re-arangement, new bed,...

tl;dr
It's overrated but depends of your situation and how well you can handle not having gf to show off

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It seems like you are lacking the requisites to maintain a sane,
healthy relationship with women. I have several female friends which I
may easily have sex with and none of them are bitchy, needy, stupid or
attached to my wallet.

You reek of misogyny and capitulation. You should refrain from
spreading your unhealthy philosophy to the easily-influenced.

You are a morron dude and I am not even the other Guy you are talking about I arrived on this thread 5 min ago. Just please leave us alone...

But hes a cuck, so he wants that

You alright there man? I think you may have mistyped reddit.com in your browser bud.

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>I don't care about romance or love
thats the best part of sex
emotionless sex is ok

Just get a tenga then. The average hoe is not going to fuck you like a pornstar.

Jesus this. It's just kinda dull and feels like a chore after I spent 7 years wanking to porn 3 times a day before finally getting sex.

Sex is acutually extremely repulsive.

Is sex impossible if you're unfit? I'm pretty fucking fat and immobile since I do nothing but sleep and post on Jow Forums. I try moving my hips when jerking off and it's tiring as shit. I can't imagine having the coordination and stamina to not collapse on a girl.

Yep. I cant even cum during raw sex anymore with my gf

>You don't need to slap a fleshlight and tell her "shut up, bitch!"
kind of a bad point

It depends. The warm and wet feeling of a horny woman's pussy is truly a delight, and will get you to a really creamy and intense orgasm, but sometimes if you're not really "into it" then it actually becomes a struggle to come because you don't have the optimal grip and speed of masturbation.

As someone who rarely does sex (once every year/month depending if sex partner or not), It feels incredible, as it's something rare for me I enjoy it to the maximum level.
I would say it's equivalent of 10 average masturbation nut.

What if I like gambling for the risk though, does it translate to sex?

Blowjob > Sex where whore does all the work > Warmed fleshlight > Jerkoff/handjob > Sex where you have to care and put in some work

If condoms are involved then everything without a condom is better so it's Warmed Fleshlight > Jerkoff > everything else

Yeah it's pretty awful when you're overweight. I'm the same and I just get tired when I'm with a hooker. Even if she's on top (which is honestly the only position I can do) it's still draining. I just want to feel human skin generally I don't care about nutting.

Then go to massage parlors dummy.

Well I want affection as well obviously. I've found an amazing hooker that's pretty smart and loves her job so I see her and get her to play with my dick while we cuddle. It's lame but I like it.

why do women like to use the word incel so much?

>What if I like gambling for the risk though

enjoy playing Russian roulette with emotional children. also I hope you understand that all of the laws are on her side and feminist groups will pay for her lawyer. I hope you have the money to defend yourself user.

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it gives them a false superiority complex

It depends on the woman. I've had much more pleasurable experiences jerking myself off than with my girlfriend, since she would just lay there and I would have to do all the pumping.

Why did she pig out so much on ice cream?

Have sex someitmes. Masturbation is better if you aren't interested in romance or love. Too much anxiety and too many variables come with sex, masturabtion is literally just you pleasing yourself exactly how you like it every time.

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its hard to separate romance and intimacy from sex desu. sex feels good on your penis but its also much more from a mental and emotional standpoint. knowing that someone found you attractive enough to let you enter her, being vulnerable in front of you, enjoying herself getting off with you is a pretty great feeling. but if you have sex with someone you love and who loves you, this is when sex transcends just piv and feels indescribable. its like every poet singer philosopher who hyped up sex were spot on

most women lack higher brain functions and operate solely on emotion so they just spout buzzwords endlessly when their feelings are hurt.

As someone who has had a long term girlfriend though it was pretty long ago and we were both terrible at sex here's my take.
Handjobs she was fucking bad and honestly you can probably do them better yourself
Blowjobs are pretty great and hard to replicate the same thing by yourself
Sex is pretty nice as well, I wouldn't say it's mind blowing all the time but the quality really varies based on the emotional load and case by case basis. At worst it's worse than just janking the chain yourself, at best it's much better.

Jerking off is kinda like the 3/5 solid experience you can count on while sex especially with a bad at sex woman can vary from 1/5 to 5/5 even on day to day or hour to hour basis. Lot comes down to the emotional side especially since that is entirely lacking for better or worse from self stuff.

I have not used lubes and always found the wetness very nice back in the day, don't need em since not mutilated but maybe I should try and that could improve the experience for yourself, same with toys I guess though I don't believe in such things personally but honestly looking at the stuff they sell these days I can see how it could elevate the experience too.

I'd say it's definitely worth to get a woman to be a cocksock but it can be hard finding a low maintenance and high quality woman especially if you aren't a turbo chad.
I'd imagine having a go with a prostitute could show you how it is if you haven't had the chance to try the real deal yet. At least the woman should then know what to do even if the emotional side will be lacking. Go for something relaxing where she does all the work I'd say