The stress of social isolation wreaks more havoc on your body than obesity...

It's just above the odd conversation with a stranger
Peak is being at a point where you and your friends hang out just for the sake of being in each other's company

Minecraft and discord. Its humble and forgiving, thoroughly satisfying.

I work. Fuck you neet retards

HAVENT BEEN IN SCHOOL SINCE 5TH GRADE HAHAHAHAHA, I HAVE NO FRIENDS OR HOBBYS HAHAHAHA I HAVENT HAD ANYFREINDS FOR YEARS AHAHAHHAHA ITS FINE GUYYS HAHAHAHAHAH I LIFT AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA IM GONNA MAKE IT AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA I LOST THE WEIGHT AHAHAHHA FOR WHAT AHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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u ok

>Source

How do you get that chest?Do you just train lower chest?Are dips and push-ups enough to get it?

Fear of rejection is as bad as rejection itself.

I don't think anybody who knows even a fraction of myself. It hurts so much to be alone bros.

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Without 'who'

Calm down, bro. Everything will be okay, you just need to change your surroundings. Take your time. Eventually you'll meet the right people and will be happy. Have a little bit of faith in yourself.

Proof?

You don't know me. I'm gonna die lonely because that's the only thing left to do in this miserable world. Being miserable.

top tier

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Visiting friends more often
Reducing alcohol intake
Trying to be more present

Utter bullshit. It's even the contrary.

I'm a hermit, aside from getting supplies twice a month and phoning my mom once a month to let her know I'm alive my only human interaction is Jow Forums and contact with passing vessels and very rarely government overseers (I work at a remote, manned lighthouse in Atlantic Canada).

You don't have the lighthouse bros?

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source?

Define authentic

fuck off. i'm sure some people who socialise all the time feel empty as fuck because they have no real deep connections and would benefit from some real alone time.

Hang in there buddy. We're all gonna make it. The world will end soon anyways from either global warming, food shortage or overall societal collapse

Nah, the majority of lighthouses in my region are automated now, mine is even mostly automated which is why I'm there myself.

cope. the other day I went to the beach with my friends and I feel so happy.

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based

ngmi

>techno commune
>not agrarian ethnohomestead
NGMI

Sounds super /comfy/, whereabouts are you?
t.south shore NS

Normies commit suicide at a much higher rate than people like us. They literally have nothing to live for apart from socializing, partying and netflix

>obesity
You're on a fucking fitness board, what the hell have you been doing?

>techno-commune

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Baie Verte area, Newfoundland.

I actually live in Burlignton and I don't know of any lighthouse around Baie Verte

What are the qualifications required for that?

Humans first flourished in small, tightly-knit groups of 20-200 people. Back then, isolation was a death sentence. We are social creatures, not solitary ones, and our advantage over other animals is culture. Our brains have evolved powerful systems to incentivize us to stay with our tribe, to avoid being cast out. As far as our brains are concerned, isolation is still a death sentence.

The relationships and social interactions we have online don't cut it. Our brains just don't recognize them as real. What we need are in-person, deep connections with a group of people, who help each other on a practical basis almost every day.

If you are alone, if you spend most days without engaging in real face-to-face interactions with people who you care about, and who care about you, there is always a background part of your brain saying "holy fuck I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I have to get back home, how do I get my tribe to let me back in?" So you soothe yourself with vidya, food, faps, drugs, media, daydreams, whatever. You distract yourself. But the only real way to solve the root problem is to find a tribe.

Modern societies seem almost designed to prevent this from happening. But that's another post for another time. For now, my advice is to reach out to your friends more. If you can stand your family, reach out to them too. Long-term, try to work towards a situation where you can live together with other people and help each other.

Check out these vids if you're interested:
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watch?v=m7fGPGj2kaY

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what about those greeek monks who live on top of a mountain and never speak? they're all about 100 years old.

cope

how much interaction is needed? i have less than five minutes a day chit chat with people. even though i spend around 5 hours in the same room as people, i don't really talk to them besides at the start and end of the day i am there, genuinely less than 5 minutes a day for at least the last 2 months. before and after i speak to no one except hello and thanks yous to shop staff.

Yeah, I didn't know what the best area of reference was for Jow Forums, I work at the Gull Island light, off La Scie. I'm a townie and Baie Verte is just a common town to reference for that part of the island, unless you're on the other side down Green Bay way.

Definitely more than that. Even most normies who talk to people at work and go out partying are isolated.

You need to find people with whom you can have a mutual concern for each other's welfare, and then see and help each other almost every day.

You need to find a tribe. If your family will accept you, and you can accept them, move in with them and try to find as many ways as you can to be helpful to them, and to foster positive interactions between everyone.

Being alone is an unsustainable situation. It's bottlenecking your quality of life. If you're alone, you need to completely change your life around.

good posts

Would it be possible for you to talk to them more? Is it like not allowed, or is it just something you aren't doing

Does shit posting on a Bangladeshi basket weaving forum fill the social quota?

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This is why societal collapse is happening in the first place

no gf is going to kill me despite all my effort isn't it?

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not as fast as 'no friends' will kill you, you have to start there

>The stress of social isolation
Where is the stress part? I am alone, I do what I want when I want and don't have to pretend anything at all.

The only time I experience stress is when I have to interact with others.

I have friends luckily but the lack of intimacy is killing me already

Sounds like madeup make believe to me.
You aren't truly alone unless you actually live like a hermit in the wilderness. And as long as you got money you have a place in society.

Personally i like to solo hike for months on vacation, walked completely through 3 countries so far. From that i can say i never felt worse traveling alone compared to staying at home surrounded by friends&family.

I'm assuming you don't just mean sex, how much of that intimacy could you/do you have with your friends? Can you talk to them about your fears without feeling lame, or about things you're proud of accomplishing without feeling like you sound like a douchebag? Are there any who love you like family? And if not do you see openings for that?

Touch is way harder. If you regularly go a week w/o any kind of friendly or affectionate touch, you should get a monthly massage to help you keep your shit together while you're trying to fix it

>not understanding that 'human connection' means more than 'literally the bare minimum of interacting with a person'

yeah I meant physical intimacy
I feel like I could talk to some of my friends about that deep shit and I occasionally do yeah
but I have never dated anyone and have only gotten laid once in my life years ago so I get no physical intimacy

lmao this mental midget can't even fully imagine human touch lmao
everytime I jerk off I am literally having sex, so long losers

Yes fren, I understand, but I asked you (?) to define "authentic". What traits distinguish an authentic relationship from an inauthentic one?

I am 25 years old and I never even kissed a girl.
Barely touching the hand of the grocery store girl when she gives me my change back is enough for now.

>not getting their point was it doesn't make a difference to them

I get it though, you read about how touch releases oxytocin and how amazing it is.

Do you feel comfortable talking to them about personal things, things you would feel uncomfortable telling a stranger?

Do you do each other favors, and feel comfortable asking or being asked? Do you have anyone to whom you could easily say, "Hey I'm out of town next weekend, could you feed my fish?"

Do you hang out in each other's living spaces or only at work/school/bars?

Would it be totally alien to the relationship for you to touch each other? Brohug, squeezing next to each other on a crowded sofa....bare minimum, would it be weird for you to brush a leaf off their shirt or vice versa

Do you enjoy bring around them

Do you trust them, or at least know how much to trust them/in what situations they're trustworthy? Like "Oh man Jon will never tell a secret, but he also never pays back money"

Lots of people don't know what makes a difference to them. Think of all the stupid diets you see people going on....all the stupid exercises you've seen people do....all of those people would swear that what they're doing is fine for them, just like these idiots

Not that simple. There are documented diabetics who can eat ice but not white rice because genetics. So i wouldn't rule out that hermits doing fine alone might be genetically outliers likewise.

You are in a state of emergency dude and the gf is not even the most important part if the checkout girl is literally the only person who touches you

Go visit your parents or grandparents if they'll hug you....go volunteer to hold sick newborns at the hospital or something if you can't figure anything else out. Filling that basic level of need will make this easier to fix

But nobody lives with absolutely 0 calories coming in. Sure, just like some people need different kinds of food these people might need different kinds of relationships....one on one time only instead of big groups, or something...but they still need connection

If you can get laid by a girl you aren't dating it but can't get a date, the symptoms of your problem may be physical but the root of your problem is social

Sounds like some commie gobeldygook to me

buddy even in capitalist countries you're still allowed to share

>he thinks fat people can just stop being fat

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this board is so autistic I love it

i am moving around, working at co-work spaces. they haven't been particularly busy. i get there, make some small talk, order a coffee and then start work, wearing headphones as i need to. i don't eat lunch but take a break at lunchtime and go for a walk to clear my head from work. this makes me sound like an autist, but i am programming so i can only do this for x hours before my brain shuts down. i finish there late afternoon, leave to go to the gym, then go back to where i am staying to work some more. i don't drink anymore so i don't go out to bars and so i just work at night.

I can't get laid
the one time was a lucky fluke, I used a fucking dating site and fucked a desperate milf

Does anyone feel that their interests in specific subjects/hobbies limit their connection with people? I don't want to talk about the best coffee shop i want to disscuss ww2 weapons and people seem to dislike that

I visit my brother at least once every 3 days.
I visit the few friends I have once a month.
I speak with at least one of my parents daily.
I talk to you guys.

Well at least you're going to coworking spaces instead of totally isolating

I love WWII shit but I'm male sorry bro

talking on the most autistic website on the internet isn't gonna do much friendo

>Peak is being at a point where you and your friends hang out just for the sake of being in each other's company

Hah

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I'm the same as Got so desperate to see people I traveled to see some family recently. F2f interaction was refreshing but there's no touching in this family, not even as a kid so the rare occasions of physical contact just tilt my mind. Idk how to react or if its even pleasant or not, actually my worst nightmares have been of being touched too much.
How fucked am I?

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for a while (6 months) i was just in hotels and airbnbs and would literally only speak when i went for a coffee in the afternoon and then ordering dinner. i have about 3 months left of it and then my situation will change.

>socialize more and drink tons of alcohol
>be autistic and live healthy

so there is no way to make gains ? nice.

HOLY HYPERBOLE BATMAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE'S TRYING TO TRICK SOMEONE INTO ACTUALLY BELIEVING THAT!

It's also possible that technology and the internet are making a fundamental impact on our social evolution. People live in close proximity (physically and socially as in cities where most of us are boxed in buildings and therefore are exposed to a lot of people every day even if we live alone) but at the same time are more "lonely" than ever. I agree that people are better off in small tribes but living in the city in the techno age makes that incredibly hard since relationships are so fleeting and shallow nowadays because "you can always meet new people". A good example might be the hook up culture. The reason why relationships have shorter life spans is because "there's always other fish in the sea" so commitment isn't really that important anymore if you can keep "starting over" every 5 years.
I think if you want to escape this societal loneliness, you have to find a spot on earth that the internet hasn't touched (because social media still creates the illusion of living in a crowd) and is occupied by a small number of people. Which is likely impossible now but can be probable in the near future.

jesus, have you really just suggested moving to one of those remote islands out at sea? Are you ok dude

>i talk to you guys
that's honestly tragic bro

Look up The Middle Way.

based and miserablepilled

>living on my own for two years
>no relationship/friendship that occupy my 'social calendar' for almost a year
>only interact with people in the office
>family is nearby and I see them almost every day
I don't think I'm that isolated but the loneliness is legit.
>remote islands out at sea
Sounds like a meme but the memes today might be the reality tomorrow. It's seriously retarded how I want to find people to connect with in a crowded city but don't know how to find or meet them. Is it really crazy to think that the internet and the urban setting is making us social retards?

Very fucked. You have to overcome your fear, start with some light human interactions, idk go to a concert where there is a lot of people and you will be forced to touch them, then join a dance class, that might turn your life around

I have been watching "personal attention" ASMR videos with cute girls on YouTube. It's almost the same as having a gf, isn't it?

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I went to a grindcore concert once and got elbowed in the face. Wasn't even in the mosh pit.
But I love tango so maybe should look for a class.

How did you get this job?How old are you?
Do you have friends?...Are you happy?

Man I'm sorry about your family, that really sucks

You dont have to socialize w people who drink