How can you tell when you've made it? What does that mean to you Jow Forums? Pic is me 2 months apart

How can you tell hes roiding?

Get a decent haircut and wipe out that retarded "smile"
Otherwise good

>bigger than me = roiding
>smaller than me = dyel

There you go

Shit how come everybody but me is on roids?

You can make an argument for left pic but that just might be lighting and editing. Right looks like 10-13%bf which seems doable. Either way someone of us is delusional from all the fake natties around.

What are your stats? I'm trying to get to a similar body but I'm too fat at 180

>Roiding
Eh if he claimed natty I wouldn't argue too much. He's obviously on the shorter side and he doesn't have that much mass, nor are his shoulders disproportionate

how do i get abs like that? mine look like shit, barely visible, uneven

On your next bulk start doing weighted abs workout. Keyword WEIGHTED.

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rude

lookin good buddy, but i have no clue which one is the "before"
get a buzz cut with a tiny bit more hair on the top, thank me later

but accurate

Lol...OP does look like shit though

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You have that face that says parents got money and I'm a total douche

Hair could use some refinement, body is good. If you want to take it to the next step, that would be vascularity over six pack flabs. Though that's significantly harder, and requires an almost religious dietary lifestyle to achieve.

>most guys are too lazy to even get to such an existing low body fat state.

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Most guys are fucking overweight. Literal clown world.

damn lighting really is everything

wdym by what does this mean to me?do i know you?go get attention irl

bigger on the left but looks better on the right

You have a perfect body, but you (((nose))) and dumbass grin are dealbreakers
4/10

You've made it when you are happy