Why has nobody called out the food industry for destroying your health in the obsiety epidemic?

I fucking knew big food was behind health at every size

Because farming is a small industry?

Just like porn, fag acceptance, wahmen privilege, and literally every "social" movement, capital follows either coercive state power and/or fastest guaranteed profit. Companies operate at and just over the "line." Draw the line wherever you want, smart corporations will get as close to it as they can.

Blaming corporations for personal failings is a very popular (((idea))).

Factory farming is a giant industry and literally hurts our health and the health of the animals and environment.

No one here is blaming anyone for their shortcomings. OP is blaming the food industry for destroying the general population's health (which they're right.) The entire food pyramid is designed to make you sick. All the advice of doctors is to get you sick and on their meds. It's designed systematically to get you sick.

sup fattie

doctors tell people to lose weight and exercise every day. wtf are you talking about?

Seems like a nightmare how it's all set up, greed and cut corners just to keep shareholders happy..
I live in the southeast around big farms and the owners are ignorant, fat rednecks that know nothing about soil or what they are doing to the environment, they just listen to whatever their Bayer or Montsanto overlords tell them to plant and spray
I ride by the fields after they spray that shit sometimes and it makes your eyes water and your nose burn
The soil itself is completely devoid of organic material and is not healthy
I grow my own and have been looking into small scale, organic market gardening as it seems theres no real competition for it around here

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Yeah and they also prescribe meds heavily and suggest shit diets for people based on the current food pyramid.

The fact that they have to wear hazmat suits just shows how toxic that shit it is. The soil is completely destroyed from all the chemicals.

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Choice.

>prescribe meds heavily
after telling fatfuck diabetics to stop eating bigmacs for 20 years
>drs use food pyramid
you clearly have no clue what youre talking about

>These people literally engineer food to be delicous
It's way, way worse than that. Even foods that should clearly be healthy are filled with fucking shit. You literally need to check every single label to be safe.

based serranoposter

Neo pls go.

Doctors don't know shit about nutrition. You're low IQ if you unironically think they have the public's best interest at heart. The food pyramid is high carb and processed shit.

Where I live there aren't many choices, it's fast food or groceries from the Walmart supercenter.. they have half an aisle of fresh vegetables and 25 aisles of boxed and canned processed foods
They have subsidized and driven the prices through the floor to the point it's not profitable to farm a few acres of organic soil unless you sell to local restaurants or tiny farmers markets

This is why you should make all your meals from scratch.

Not only do they do the above, they pay politicians thousands not to do anything about the systematic poisoning of the United states

I've literally never been obese, what do I win for exercising some self-control?

Dear friend, the average Westerner eats the food pyramid in reverse, with a diet based on oil, butter and sugar, then a large amount of meat and cheese and a small amount of grains, vegetables and fruits.

A condescending tone from your girlfriend's parents about how they need to fatten you up

So...still high carb and highly processed.

what a gip

That's funny because it's really common now for doctors to prescribe low carb diets to people.

The food industry hasn’t destroyed shit, you destroy yourselves through your laziness and gluttony, you fat fucks

Actually, a lot of them push vegetarian or vegan diets. Which will completely fuck up your health.

First of all, they have. Secondly, the food industry isn't the ultimate problem, it's the government. The government is the one that herds all your dumbass little kids into their Daycare/Indoctrination camps to teach them that masculinity is bad, feelings are of tantamount importance, everyone is beautiful on the inside, don't judge people, and so on. The kids don't know how to count calories because they don't know how to count at all. Then, once the "graduate," already fat and stupid, the government subsidizes their fatness with food stamps and agriculture subsidies.

More proof that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Doctors tell people to limit consumption of fast food, sugar, processed foods, low glycemic items like rice, saturated fats, junk food like chips and tell them to increase intake of vegetables

>blaming others for your choices

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>the engineer food to be delicious

This is absurd. This is like saying

"car companies are bad because they make cars that look nice!"

It's YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to take care of YOUR HEALTH.

Of course food companies try to make their food taste good, they're selling food, should they make their food taste like shit?

Literally thousands of people have called them out. The problem is the right person hasn't done. Most of the caller-outers are nutcases of one type or another or subscribe to some kind of silly alternative living nonsense.

We need someone really respected and grounded to take this up as their cause, and then they need to appear before congress in the US and call for accountability.

If I could pick one guy to do this I would probably pick Alton Brown. He's basically the Bill Nye of food and would get the normies behind him.

Brainlet response.

I bet I can eat for 6 months fast food only and not gain weight. The problem is how much you eat and your snacks and drinks filled with sugar

>has no self control
>calls other people brainlets

another brainlet response

Pro tip: You have to live in the world with other people

OP you fucking retard they have been called out constantly for decades now.

We do not live in a śoy police state though, so we are not going to make cheeseburgers illegal.

look up the phrase "Inverted Totalitarianism" and get back to me, brainlet

You don't have to buy a car to live.
You do need food to live.
Poor, uneducated people do not have the willpower or foresight to know that they are killing themselves with unhealthy food.

What happens to a country when the citizens are weak, sick, and stupid?

if you are poor you can cook your own food, is much cheaper and healthier

No, its low carb, and yes it is highly processed, which guidelines advise against

Kek

god damn the fucking brainlets in this thread

Would have thought on Jow Forums people would be a little more familiar with this discussion and the first dozen and 1000x refuted talking points about it.

You should lurk more. Here we are more familiar with talks about self control and healthy home cooked meals. Go back to your board

Poor people already cook their own food because it is cheaper. The problem is they buy sacks of potatoes, beans, rice, and spaghetti and then eat massive quantities of it combined with cheese and cheap cuts of pork.

Poor people buy 10 packs of Mac n' Cheese dinners then eat two a day combined with cans of fried SPAM or Luncheon meat.

The truth is we are at a crossroads of history where the problem for poor people is no longer starvation. No one is going hungry. Not even homeless people (save your stupid anecdotes about the 0.01% of people who are exceptions). The problem now is knowledge and self-control. The ability to rise above animal status and defy your own body's instinct to cram as many calories into it as possible.

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>Here we are more familiar with talks about self control and healthy home cooked meals
That doesn't address the societal problem unless you accept OPs idea that the food industry must be brought into accountability.

>The problem now is knowledge and self-control. The ability to rise above animal status and defy your own body's instinct to cram as many calories into it as possible

this

You have not made any point beyond "hurr jus don't eat it muh self control". Which is an absurd reduction of the issue that does not face the fact that 90% of packaged food being sold in grocery stores is artificially enhanced (usually with with added HFCS) to cause greater food cravings. People should not have to navigate the mire that has been created for them in the last 30 years. We can be better than this.

>thing is good and but but I choose to ignore the good stuff
found your problem
grow up

Same with cigarettes and drugs

>advertisements made me fat
youtube.com/watch?v=5CjYCQskoHY

This fucking thread. Now I hate fat people more

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Why?

Once again, you do not need cigarettes or drugs to live. This is, has been, and always will be a false equivalence.

they're just running a business. who you should really be upset with is Seventh Day Adventists for pushing the meat is toxic meme and creating all these processed food companies.

Human beings today are the strongest and healthiest ever to walk the planet.

Most humans up to like a thousand years ago died from their own teeth, let alone their god awful diets.

Sure big food industries put "stuff" in their food, but they are just doing what chefs have been doing for centuries. Trying to make their food taste better.

Yes sugar is bad for you, but blame humanity for their taste buds not some sugar cane farmer in Florida.

You can buy fat bags of artisinal flour from Italy through Amazon one 1 day shipping to your house and make your own fucking bread.

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Obesity Even Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Stop Eating Like A Barnyard Animal Like Just Put The Fork Down Haha

The stupid, it hurts.

Pesticides are by nature toxic to life. That's the whole fucking point. In fact pesticides and herbicides are actually the single most studied chemicals on planet Earth.

There are literally giant feral packs of California attack lawyers right now trying to make up shit about how Roundup causes cancer, and they've been failing for 30 years to do so because there is none.

This guy sounds all responsible by growing his own food, but the truth is if every human being on Earth grew their own food, the planet would resemble a Hieronymus Bosch painting with a 80% drop in all life on Earth, mass extinctions, war, famine, plague, etc.

Modern civilization depends on intensive food production to thrive. I'm sure Ghenghis Khan encountered many organic hippy communes in his conquests. The reason nobody knows of them today is precisely because they were raped into exctinction by intensive food producing societies then and forever before then.

Grow up man.

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> but muh food deserts
no

just dont buy that bs ezpz mongo

>thinking that the food industry is responsible for destroying peoples health

Never going to make it.

based GMOposter

>who you should really be upset with is Seventh Day Adventists for pushing the meat is toxic meme
This user knows what is up. These faggots have been pushing their "healthy" crap for years and made a significant chunk of people think eating endless carbs is good for you.

Real story time:

>7th day Adventist neighbor invites mom to a "talk" at the library about healthy desserts
>I decide to tag along because I am already suspicious
>get there
>bitch starts talking about how sugary all processed food is, how it leads to diabetes/obesity
>she's standing in front of a table loaded down with bananas, strawberries, raspberries, and other fruit along with nuts, cocoa powder, coconut shavings, and other toppings.
>talks about how you can make frozen treats by freezing these fruits then running it through her soft serve machine
>she pulls out plastic sundae trays and invites all the old women up to make their own sunday out of ground up soft serve strawberries and bananas topped with nuts and coconut shavings
>still going on about how this is good for diabetics (spoiler: IT'S NOT)
>at this point I am absolutely livid and fuming inside and motioning that we should leave
>new bitch stands up to talk
>starts talking about how she used to go on the internet and figure out what was wrong with her because doctors always had it wrong
>talks about how she went from doctor to doctor to doctor trying to get her diet figured out, but she was clearly always trying some quack pseudoscience sabotaging herself
>talks about how her CHIROPRACTOR put her on a diet that now works for her
>surely the 12th time's the charm, right?
>bitch probably does not actually even have anything wrong with her other than a touch of IBS. I have it too, deal with it bitch.
>basically have to literally drag my own mother away from the dumbasses and harass her in the car on the way home to FORGET ALL OF THAT SHIT THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID.
>FRUIT HAS SUGAR IN IT TOO YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.

>Go to grocery store
>70% of food there is useless to you
>90% of people who you have to live in the same society with are buying it

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Not just obesity, but our gut flora as well... probably part of the reason why everyone is so much more anxious and depressed than before. Gut health and inflammation has a huge effect on your mood

Fast food industries aren't a cause of the obesity epidemic, they're the symptom. All the places that are now modern human-cattle feeders USED to be regular old mom and pop burger joints - it's when everybody started to get retarded, incompetent, and careless on their own accord did the health threat from fast food start to ramp up. Most people are literally too fucking dumb for their own good, which is why the obesity rates are also so high, and because of the basic principles of capitalism people started to pick up on this and give the stupid hogs exactly what they wanted.

McDonald's didn't start the HAES movement or body positivity either, fat retarded people who were mad about being fat and retarded did, and soon enough (as we've already seen with other forms of pandering) fast foods places will start campaigns to get hams to relish in being a gluttonous waste of human life.

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Yes. People think that "God" is a magical sky being, and how silly is it to believe in that? Much better to believe in the Universe. Nevermind that St. Aquinas (one of the top 2 theologians in the Church) argued that God was existence itself, ie: the Universe, 800 years ago.

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>fruit bad because sugar
Hot damn, you are women's fashion magazine levels of dumb

let me guess, you are some anti vaxxer retard?

t. steve jobs

If you had seen the "sundae" they had made which was essentially a pound of blended up frozen strawberries topped with a whole banana that was being sold as a "healthy alternative" you'd understand.

nah that shit is way overhyped. fucking around with probiotics has been shown to do fuck all for healthy individuals (i.e. without gut infection or recent antibiotic use).

>fruit good because nature

>Most people are literally too fucking dumb for their own good, which is why the obesity rates are also so high, and because of the basic principles of capitalism people started to pick up on this and give the stupid hogs exactly what they wanted.
So what can be done?

Have some fucking self control and take responsibility for your eating decisions rather than blaming the food companies. Unless they came to your house with a gun and forced you to eat garbage, it's not their fault you're fat.

it's a cultural problem my guy. Our society says health is a low priority and all that matters is you go to work, pay your taxes, and turn on the tube every night.

fuck off dumb ox

Do you know how many calories are in strawberries you fucking dimwit?

I guarantee you that the healthiest people on this board eat an absolute shit load of fruit. Raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, and apples are all extremely healthy for you.

This board is retarded sometimes.

No

There's literally no advantage to eating fruit over fibrous vegetables except

> muh sugar tastes good

>apples are all extremely healthy for you.
no they arent. literally just fructose and water. The only acceptable fruits are berries citrus and kiwi

puree'd strawberries --> huge dose of fructose. terrible for you

Preferably? Some sort of Malthusian, Thanos-esque catastrophe to put the fear of god back into people and make them wake up and stop being such shitty wasters consuming everything from media to food in their path. Realistically? Literally nothing. Statistics show we've just nearly gone over the point of return, the average obesity rate in the US last time I checked was around 30-40%, which at this rate will probably be 55-65% in less than 3 years time.

The only way to fix it now would be some impossibly concerted effort by multiple popular celebrities, academics, and politicians all coming together to essentially scream "STOP BEING FUCKING FAT" at a camera broadcasting internationally. But that won't happen, because more companies and people - more powerful companies and people - profit from the declining American health than companies that don't.

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Retards. Vegetables are king obviously but you're not going to have a bowl of broccoli for fucking breakfast are you? Fruit is full of vitamins and is actually sustainably incorporated into a lifestyle diet, something 80% of this board struggle with. If you think you'll eat broccoli and chicken for the rest of your life you're doing this wrong.

There is nothing wrong with fructose unless you're diabetic, and you are forgetting the bucketload of vitamins and minerals.

I sometimes forget that I'm debating with incels and 19 year olds who are doing babbys first broccoli and brotein shake stint to get in shape for the summer, some of us actually take fitness seriously and *live* that way.

Ah yes, I'm a bad goy for not supporting unchecked population growth, after all who would be around to consume?
Get fucked faggot, 90% of people don't need to exist and I hope you're one of the first to go

So what can be done?

generate radical media and kill politicians

Wow look at all these vitamins. Really looking forward to that 6% of vitamin C and negligible everything else along with those 218 calories and 10 grams of sugar.

Eating fruit is a coping strategy for people looking to quit candy.

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>Raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, and apples are all extremely healthy for you.
If that's what you took away from then you are an idiot with either

1. extrememely poor reading comprehension and the inability to place situations within context
2. being willfully ignorant of the points presented to you so you can become outraged in defiance of what you want them to be, not what they actually are

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You're calling people retards for replying to a post that started with this one which included the line
>>still going on about how this is good for diabetics (spoiler: IT'S NOT)

And then you are trying to make a "counter-point" about how fructose is only worrisome if you're a diabetic, when that point was part of the original post you are supposedly attempting to refute.

This is self-induced outrage. This is you seeing trigger words in a post without actually reading the whole thing or understanding the point it is trying to make.

Would need 3600 calories of apples to reach your daily vitamin C.

There is NO reason to eat apples (and probably most fruit) from a nutrition standpoint. Fruit is engineered/bred to be as sweet as possible and is not natural.

>All these (You)'s

Looks like my work here is done.

why would I blame smart people for exploiting brainlets and losers ? I used to be a faggot like you OP but once you get enlightend you can finally see that all the people that are stupid and lazy arent worth shit and deserve to be taken advantage of.

fiber?

so its their fault you buy it
as much at its their fault for entrapping you as a kid/child or convincing your parents it was a good idea in the long run

based
if you are aware of this revelation, it means you are or are almost free of the idea that it's just good when it can be both or bad. So exemplify or stfu