Next time some fat pizzafaced incel tells you “it’s all about the face... just remember that this is what they look like, and now some quotes from this pathetic individual
>>”would fight in the front lines of the bloodiest battle the world has ever seen, come back with no limbs, if it guaranteed me an ugly fat chick"
>>”I thinks looks is 90% about face”
>interviewer: why do you think advanced incel obsesses about his face?
>other subhuman incel: i think it’s because his face is something that he can’t really change
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it is about the face. He's fucking hideous
Yea incels are just afraid to look women in the eyes and go "Hey bitch, nice shoes, want to get a beer". That's one hundred percent all it is.
All the crying about their faces is just body dismorphia.
It works like that in day to day life, but if you want to succeed on Tinder or something it is about face.
And this is what he wants to look like with thousands of dollars spent on plastic surgery (he’s a neet), even our cousins at bbf laugh at these scum
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Yea I can admit that's probably true.
this just reinforces the incel viewpoints. His face is 2-3/10 and even surgery cant do much to help him.
handsome face isn't enough to have success on tinder, AI scan says I'm 9/10 and anons told me my face looks good but I have a lot of matches and 0 dates
He wants to be a girl?
I don't know why people have difficulty acknowledging that if you have a conventionally attractive face you're going to find it a lot easier to get a date than if you have a conventionally unattractive face.
What about this concept sounds so radical that people don't believe it?
i REJECT rating other men's beauty
the lack is dates is because of your personality
i will Insist that your matches are also due to your personality
The biggest issue I have with that is losing weight makes your face look better. It’s not going to work miracles but a lean face almost always looks better then a fat round one. People who say it’s about face usually are fat and unhygienic
>other subhuman incel: i think it’s because his face is something that he can’t really change
He's fat. He needs to lose fat so his jaw and cheekbones stand out more. And get a tan.
But there are a lot of people who have bad faces even absent excessive body fat. If you have something wrong with your mouth or a big crooked nose, you really do have to get it fixed or you're going to be shit out of luck even if you have an otherwise good body.
Exception to the rule. Being 5’4” is a disadvantage but it’s not game over. It’s just really fucking hard. Guys who are 5’ even or have fucked up faces are really fucked tho. The average person will look better leaner
grew up chubby hit puberty hard and will catch the occasional mire.
face is important, but Advanced was also skinnyfat, if he put in effort his odds would go up, he might never be chad but goddamn try to achieve instead of dieing in your own pitty
>the day i left Jow Forums for Jow Forums my life has improved, its not perfect but nobody is.
we're all gonna make it, but we have to stay dedicated and not lose sight of our goals even if they're outlandish
>>”would fight in the front lines of the bloodiest battle the world has ever seen, come back with no limbs, if it guaranteed me an ugly fat chick"
but he wont work out
is this a joke? your face is in another dimension compared to an incel's
He doesn't even look that bad.
>not mentioning mewing
not gonna make it
His eye area reminds me of pierce brosnan
t. slav face lol
>People who say it’s about face usually are fat and unhygienic
No, incels literally say fat = volcel (voluntarily celibate)
i don't see it
Watched the first 3 minutes and got bored as fuck. Those guys aren't even that ugly. Just don't take care of themselves, and it's been a downward spiral from highschool or junior etc. Fucking Christ. Come back when there's a documentary about someone with a deformed head or face trying to get a girl.
All of the dudes on that show would be at least a 6/10 in 6 months if they stepped outdoors, stopped eating shit and exercised.
Will doing this improve my jawline or face muscles if i have low fat?
It depends on the sense of the word but in a way it is because you are choosing to be fat. Some people use volcel to describe people making choices that reduce their SMV. Being fat is like purposely nuking your SMV from orbit
To what end? I didn't claim to be attractive.
He's good-looking, but no it really isn't.
It’s mental and social as well as physical. Elliot Rodger was actually ok looking if not traditionally masculine.
For some reason there's a whole mentality on Jow Forums that your advice has to be supported by a good-looking body or face.
Why do I think he looks better than me? Hold me bros
take the MEW pill
Wait, isn't there some sort of boot camp thing like the PUA guy is mentioning for these guys?
There must be something like that in America. Not PUA courses. A full on camp thing that they have to attend.
Get them away from the computer for a month, make them cook their own meals and lift. That would help them
Exactly, they say that you can't be incel as long as you have fat on your face, while posting pictures of what people look like after losing weight. Basically, as long as you have the ability to improve how you look and you don't, you're not an incel. This is something they usually address in the community. Though there might be skinny-fat people who slip through the cracks, but they shouldn't. That includes myself, and I'm going to the gym right now. Though I'm on the lower end of the spectrum, there is still room for me to improve. Weight, skin-care, hygeine, etc. and actually asking women out, instead of expecting them to come to me. Until I fix all of this and fail I won't consider myself an incel anymore.
Same with my social skills, but they're getting better. I know great people who are hideous with great social skills, hygeine, and are fit with no girlfriend. I'll keep it in the back of my mind but I won't let the one example I have stop me from potentially improving.
If you’re an invader who doesn’t lift but only comes to this board to bring others down you should post your face
Quebecois/Metis*
here's me when i was deep into Jow Forums b4 finding Jow Forums if this helps with perspective
> literally posting orthodontic transformations before/after
> take the mew pill br0
i INSIST.
take the mew pill.
its orthotropics,not orthodontic.
in china they have boot camps for computer addicts
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Damn, that board really does bring you down
You look a lot better than before
>based chinese
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at first I thought pic is your fat gf
Thank you, were all gonna make it.
Jow Forums is a cesspool of circle jerking sadness the memes are good but i think it honestly warped me a bit
Why?
sadly wouldn't be the first time i was mistaken for a chick when i was husky
>claim the body you deserve, dont accept the one you have
>before and after beginning puberty
Dude, read the captions on your own picture.
Because ugly nihilistic faggots make those kind of threads and should show us what they look like
Or, people who are already down flock to the board and it has nothing to do with the board itself, evidenced by the fact that, I'm assuming well-adjusted people like you have never dropped into it's 'clutches'. The board doesn't manipulate anyone especially when regular people seem to have no problem not believing what they say, or getting 'trapped' in. It's just a board full of lonely people and lonely people flock to it to vent. He literally wouldn't have browsed the board (Like most people who have never ever considered browsing it even once) if he wasn't already down. You're confusing cause and effect.
>Until I fix all of this and fail
Try having a more positive attitude as well. Don't talk like you're anticipating failure. You're gonna make it, brah.
jesus CHRIST that's amazing.
This is some top tier inspiration. I honestly can't believe it - you have made it. I mean not by Jow Forums muscle mass standards but you've changed your face from that to impressively good looking (no homo).
You should be very happy with yourself. You've crossed a bridge in life that will change you forever and countless fail the leap. But you already know all that.
As an aside, am I condemned if I'm already auschwitz and my eyesight is too far gone for them to make contacts? Is this already best case scenario for me?
>puberty doesnt get anyone abs.
if it helps im nesr sighted but dont wear glasses. I dont drive and work i work in kitchens so long distance vision isnt needed. my prescription isn't very strong to begin with though so I dont mind not seeing 15 ft in front of me
i honestly still feel like that husky guy desu.
Im worried im just gonna have to fake my feelings internally until they catch up with my physique
i continue to insist.
the change is due to mewing.
Bro I think I know what you mean. I need to change real soon because I feel it. I feel myself becoming more bitter and jaded. Nobody listens when people tell you not to come here.
I'm starting to hate women and the normalfags I work with even though I know it will only make it harder for me to live a normal life and interact with sincerity rather than a thin facade of whatever was there before. I hate this place but once you start to believe you can't go back. At least we're here on Jow Forums and not Jow Forums.
user, you're super duper cute
I enjoyed the onions movie review of mama mia 2
>bare with me im making a point
the review was the critic mocking the viewer for being a souless no-fun party pooper cunt who can't find simple joys in something that was never intended to be worth high praise.
I feel like Jow Forums specifcally sets you up with unrealistic standards for quality when in reality life should be taken with a grain of sand. I did some hitchhiking at 16 because i was neet and my mom kicked me out, i had to give up all my material possessions and make something for myself. Its been six years since ive talked to my mom but im thankful she put me through this retarded bullshit because im started to appreciate letting go, and not overhyping things and just being content. I dont want joy I just want to not die and being forced to fly on my own at a young age helped me appreciate the simple stuff.
idk my story is a little extreme and im not implying you need to be homeless to gain perspective, but i think it helps to not expect a lot out of life and to savour what we have while we have it
>like being fit
thank you honestly.
were all gonna make it.
the incels aren't wrong though, if your goal is to improve socially, especially with women, most of it IS about face.
i don't know why you guys cope so hard that it isn't
Thanks I think I needed that. I have a bad habit of looking at instagram pictures of my friends having fun camping, BBQs ect. I got an apprenticeship you see but I was the only one who left my school at 16 and I moved away slightly. All my colleagues are quite a bit older than me so I don't really connect with them as much. I know that I definitely made the right financial/career decision but I can't help but think I've fucked myself out of some pretty important stuff. It's excruciating you know. They slowly stopped inviting me to stuff, I get less and less of their jokes on the rare occasions I am with them. I really need to let that go. It's just I spend literally 80% of my free time walking my dog for hours even days just walking around the countryside. I suppose it reminds me of when I used to go on hikes with my friends.
most people with healthy normal faces also have normal healthy lifestyles. sure you might not be blessed with gigachad genetics. but lose weight, exercise and be a healthy individual and you'll look much better.
He’s tall, if he put on some muscle he’d have a great body (its fucking pear shaped and pathetic right now) and being lean would give him a much better face too, so will a tan and a better haircut. Dude does absolutely fuckall to improve and just complains and talk about tfw no gf and that he cannot do anything
Ask me how I know you’re ugly
You've transcended. Congrats, user
i'm not denying that, just saying that the incels are right in that women really do value facial attractiveness. you have to be a complete shut in to not see this
you don't need to ask me of course i'm ugly, otherwise i wouldn't think about this stuff. what is even the point of your post?
just because you're not 6'4 with high cheekbones doesnt mean its impossible to get laid if you hit the gym
>pic related has gotten laid at least twice without even going to the gym
if you get fit, even if you're a manlet with a weakchin you can get laid with cuties just find shorter women idk
You literally have no excuses, even the elephant man could get pussy just for the sheer freak factor
That you’re a self loathing loser who doesn’t lift and copes with his nihilism by projecting it on others
And you can too brother dont lose sight of your personal goals.
what projecting? i literally just said women value looks. sounds like you're trying to convince yourself or some shit
you're just making a bunch of assumptions, sure you might get laid but those relationships will be no where near the level of people who put in much less effort than you, most women will just use you or ghost you (the incel/lookism/blackpill "movement" in itself is proof of this). i'd say sure go lift, but don't make women your focus if you're ugly, you're only going to experience pain
That doc was just sad. They could be normal but they surround themselves with other bitter and obsessed people. Not even that ugly, I see uglier people with gfs all the time. Being obsessed enough with your virginity to join online communities dedicated to it will just sink you deeper into the hopeless well.
There's little you can do about your face, except for hair and zits. There's nothing you can do about your height. But you can choose to do the best within your constraints to maximize your chances, or you can be a loser whose already accepted defeat and doesn't even try.
when you get laid you stop caring, and when you stop caring and trying so hard, these things kinda fall into place.
>you remind me of a dog chasing its shadow, the faster you run the faster it'll get away from you
you're right though, not all men are equal and some things are easier for others.
That's no excuse to quit the game.
Well yeah, that's not just women though. That's all people. People like looking at nice looking people and don't like looking at ugly people.
Tree elf
What? it gets easier after you get laid? Is this real or a cruel trick?
Can't convince me that's not just an Oblivion screenshot
Once you find what you seek you'll see it was never an external search but truly an internal one.
I unironically fucked a hooker to lose my virginity and it helped put things in perspective, im not hungry for pussy and i kinda get off to shutting down women. they like to play the game too.
Not all women are whores but a lot of women are dtf if you give off the impression you know what you're doing.
Confidence unironically helps, to paraphrase the documentary "women are just people you cant put them on a pedestal" and i find when you treat them like humans (or below humans) it triggers something internally.
idk a lot of things you just need to learn through experience and a wingman can only get you so far.
If you're a virgin male, slam some hooker pussy and move on with your life.
Free your mind, your ass will follow
>results may vary
Stats?
6'2, around 150, still cutting
>dont ask
i did basic high intensity high volume and dirty bulked till near vomiting
my cut now is focused on high intensity cardio, less volume and more reps,
my diet is more or less 2 scoops of sixstarr whey with skim milk (60g protien 250 calories 2g carbs/fat)
after a midnight jog,
and light intermitten fasting throughout the day.
its difficult to fast when working in kitchens but its an exercise in self-control. Ive been binge drinking espresso and took up smoking to curb appetite, im hoping i wont be addicted when its all over but at least ill have abs in my coffin
I mean yeah you're right but the difference is men are sluts and will fuck anything they see. Even going as far as dating someone they don't like in order to fuck them. Making it a choosing game for women mostly. This is consistent throughout nature, but you're right, everyone is equally shallow.
There may rarely be women willing to date ugly men but generally the odds are skewed against you and your chances go down lower when you're unnattractive. There's still a chance but that means nothing when you have such a small pool to choose from. And the odds are you're 90% unlikely to come across this person. You don't meet enough people in a day for the odds to be taken advantage of. Trying is better than nothing and there are problems women deal with too, I admit.
i also do crash cheating.
idk if its a technique but im essentually attempting to emulate our ancestors, fast as long as possible then refeed on a high fat/carb meal once or twice a week.
The shock of calories stops me from having seizures from hypoglycemia and i still retain some muscle for when im in between gorging.
>ill more or less go to a korean bbq 1-2 times a week eat my daily calories in one sitting then fast for 2-3 days with a protien shake to fend off being lightheaded.
Probably not ideal longterm with all the crashing my metabolism, but so far its working for me.
i have been slacking in the gym though and I bet i could get my abdomen tighter if i pigged out less or in less dramatic volumes
Some of them are good looking but need slight improvements. just defeatists
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Not to mention, as an ugly guy even if you get a gf she's going to have tons of other options, often men much better looking or better than you in general.
It's a womans world, they are the one's that choose. If your best is not good enough, then there really isn't any point unless you enjoy being in abusive relationships. She'll always know she can do better.
don't get too skinny!
this. stagnation and complacency won't change shit. The mountain is before them, its not even a steep climb, just a steady long one that anyone can do.
Yet they chose to ignore the view at the peak convinced the base is all one ever needs.
>ascend with me brothers the view is lovely
i dont wanna jinx it, but i recently got scouted for modelling and they want me to get that "coathanger" aesthetic, lil bit of arm muscle, shredded abs and skinny in the right places, even at 140-145lbs my bmi is just barely below healthy weight.
If things get going ill reference Jow Forums somehow during a shoot for the lolz
>says the white(probably a mutt) namefagging incel who’s low test but doesn’t roid that spams incel threads
kek
lol, why the fuck were you ever on r9k? is this just you bullshitting and fishing for compliments? I refuse to believe you ever thought you were an incel.
heres another old pic of me.
i am fishing but only because im proud of what ive worked for.
You can be too.
I'm not an incel bro, thanks for the concern though. honestly, you didn't really have to work for much, it was puberty doing its job. most of us go through an awkward phase in puberty and some of us have the foundation to come out really good on the other side. you definitely did have that.
also please be my bf.
That namefagging mutt who pretends he’s a manlet nigger none the less to spam defeatist shit
puberty probably did help but user did a lot too. Let him be proud
You're honestly totally right. It wasn't as difficult as I thought it'd be to get trim, and my genetics are a blessing, other men are gonna have a harder time but thats life, I didnt wake up this way magically it took time and every man in this chat rn has this same potential. Natty lifting might not make us Arnold, but getting mild definition has done wonders for me
its all about taking control of your destiny. I couldve settled for hamplanets when i was pic related but I pushed myself to see where i can go
having film school friends helps a lot too for kino pics
His face doesn't seem that bad if he lost weight and worked on his social skills he would probably be able to pull 6-7/10s
undeniably. he's even pretty tall, with a lower bf% and a butch haircut he could look pretty tough
hank hill tough
rugged american family man with morals
Not gonna work dude. Mewing in adults is messy and hardly works. Unless you have 100% perfect neck posture 24/7 and perfect lip seal at night. Moving the maxilla in general is fucking incredibly hard in adults. I'm sure we'll see some progress on this in the coming years, appliances that improve rotation of the maxilla, but it is so very difficult to get this shit right in adults that are fully formed. Not only because there's less growth, but also because bone density means you need more force to fix that shit. People should still mew for the health benefits. I swallow correctly now, and I think the hollowness of my cheeks has improved, but moving bone is insanely hard and few have done it.,