/fast/ #458 - Back from the dead edition

lads i've been fasting one day, eating 1000-1200 calories the next day, over and over again

yet i've only lost 2 1/2 pounds over the last 2 weeks, what gives? i'm losing hope

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Mid 30s 5’9” 145lb float between 10-12%. Been doing some sort of fasting for years now and been at a deficit for that long. I wanna eat more but terrified to lose my abs and get fat. I think about food too much and idk what to do. I feel backed into a corner.

You can always alternate day fast and binge all you want.

Nope it'll always suck. I'm feeling like shit and everything but I'm obese so i have to slog through it.

we need more info user

what else is there fren?

Today you learned fat loss is a fucked up thing that only worke fast if you actually fast nonstop without eating. If you're eating, you're not burning the fat quickly. That's it. Time to sack up and suffer fasting.

And i have 120 pounds to lose before i get a 30" waistline so my life fucking sucks big time I'm so fucking fat i need to fast for the rest of the bloody year

So get started, fatty. What are you waiting for?

What's your deficit? how long have ya been doing this? what time of the day do you eat? are the fasts dry?

Fasting has helped me to no longer succumb to my hunger. That alone is well worth it.

How fat are you? I was doing ADF at ~2000 kcals but felt stressed and shitty all the time. I'm probably around 15% BF (5'11 174). Switched to regular keto at a deficit and felt great. Was having too difficult of a time recovering from workouts the other way and felt like shit all the time.

Let me guess, you do absolutely no activity whatsoever.

>What's your deficit?
Should be eating ~2700 calories to maintain weight, I believe.

>how long have ya been doing this?
2 weeks now.

>what time of the day do you eat?
During the days I eat (one off, one on (1200 calories max))

>are the fasts dry?
No

I'm 50 pounds overweight

No, I go to the gym 3 times a week and work an active job on the weekends

>>what time of the day do you eat?
On the days I eat. I fucked that one, I eat a high protein breakfast (e.g omelette, boiled eggs, etc). Then a standard lunch in the evening

Should be: I fucked that one, on the days I eat, I eat a high protein breakfast (e.g omelette, boiled eggs, etc). Then a standard lunch in the evening

god fucking dammit man i want to fast but i am so addicted to fucking food like fuck. they keep making me dinner and they never tell me but when i go upstairs i know there is a plate waiting for me and i just got it. fuuuuuck why did i get it, i must have been bored for a second. gah, its white rice and a lamb sandwich. should i just fucking eat it since i got it ? its the end of day 1 for me.

>I'm 50 pounds overweight
Ah for sure. Keep at it then. Might want to up activity, but it doesn't sound like you're that much below what you should be losing.

The deficit isn't the problem then. You haven't been doing this for long, but in my experience you should be dropping quicker. Making the fasts dry for those 48 hours would most definitely help, but barring that. If you eat before going to sleep, that's gonna be better for bulking, but if you're trying to lose weight, eat when you wake up, on the day that you train. If you eat at breakfast, you can get away with a lot more carbs too, and will have a lot more strength in the gym. Thing is, whatever the case, your eating window has to be fucking small. Try 1 hour, maybe 2, then let 48 (or 46, whatever) hours pass, and eat again. No fucking lunch in the evening. With these parameters, no way you don't see results, dry or otherwise.
Honestly, you'd see results with just 24h firsts, but dial that in after you start getting serious results.

>dammit man I want to fast
>should I just fucking eat it

You make up your mind user. There are no wrong choices, but wavering is unbecoming.

Shamefur dispray.

You need to develop disciprine, user.

Fasting is, at its core, a struggle against oneself.

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i ate it before anyone even replied, plus i binged a bit on other stuff. i was doing good today. i got through the whole day with snake juice and then suddenly i just get this urge to go upstairs and i keep telling myself "i wont eat it" but i eat it. i have negative discpline. i need to lose so much weight in 2 months.

ANYBODY HERE WANT TO BE FASTING DISCORD BUDDIES?

No love for the lean guys? I was a fatty too once! Sheesh

Eh...? You won't gain 30 lbs

Just had some bone broth after my first 3 day fast, how long should I wait before eating actual food again?

I was starting to feel weak and had this weird sensation like my body was struggling to make enough energy to keep up with my daily activities so am ending the fast now, was meant to go a bit longer

If I do 3 days and have been drinking the snake I break my fast first with a shot of ACV wait 15 min then a couple small pieces of fruit. I wait anywhere from 15-30 min and eat a pound of lean boneless skinless chicken breast and vegetables with no issues. I do this often though so YMMV

First time I did a 3 day, I demolished some fried chicken. Didn't have any fecal urgency afterwards. It's only after i've done a 7+ day that I have to actually take some time to get used to food again.

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I can't fast, that's it. I'm starting a

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On second thoughts, I'm gonna OMAD for a full month and see what happens. Fucking hate proper fasting of any kind.

Im starting fast tomorow

6'0 220 lbs

Love me the taste of water

My best friend tells me no but my desire for hot girls tells me yes

3 day fast/1 day soups/1 day cheat repeat, I wanna restrict my body to that

I can smoke weed right? I dont get munchies

Of course you can. Eating will only serve to keep your appetite going. Stop being a pussy

>smokes weed
Never gonna make it

does weed fuck up the fast?

>discord
You could have just said you were a huge faggot, user
It makes sense now why you're such a weak cunt

Does thc or any of the other stuff you are ingesting into your body when smoking contain energy? Possibly. I'm pretty sure if a dude shoved some food up his ass and consumed it through his intestines instead of the stomach he would end a fast, so I don't see why taking it into your bloodstream via your lungs would be any different

It fucks with you neural pathways, if you want to be a disgusting junkie waste of space choose a better drug at least

dont do it boy, you will feel ugly as shit, which will in turn force you to eat more and more. remember, its gay even if you just took the tip in uranus.

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do you move enough?
do you drink enough water?

yes you can smoke weed. do as much as you can to stay busy with things that interest you that don't involve food. People who talk bad on weed more often than not are just afraid of their own demons.

they're the type to get too high and suspect their friends secretly hate them. (you feel this because it is true, or you are for the first time coming face to face with the realization that they don't care about you because they are in their own worlds and its no personal offense its just reality)

>friends
>not just persons of interest
>not machiavellian chessing your way through life

if you have friends ur a fool. a female mate is all you need.

Are you sure you're counting right? Fatties are notorious for underestimating the calories they eat and overestimating the exercise they do

FAST IT ALL OFF
my new body has given rise to many confidences. I dont feel so awk anymore

Jow Forums patrician

>fasting for 5 days
>youtube recommended start getting flooded with food related videos
holy shit, will you fuck OFF

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Okay, so here's what I've done. I ate at a deficit yesterday around 2 pm, then I worked out for about an hour and didn't eat again. That was 20 hours ago as of now, and I'm wondering if I should just keep the fast going and do another workout, or if I should break my fast at the 24 hour mark, eat at deficit, and then workout.

I only do resistance training. Nothing else right now.

what will fasting do to my metabolism, will it speed it up or slow it down?

What is the current snake juice recipe? Something horrible has happened to my weight and I need to fast.

>inb4 sticky
You know the recipe changes

Could someone answer a few things for me?
I started fasting saturday night, monday i drank only 1 cup of plain tea, coffee and 2L water, however i also chewed and spat bread that morning, did not swallow anything. Is this ok?

Also i was wondering once the fasting period is done (bit over 2 days) how much food can i consume? Does it still need to be under my tdee? Is it better if i feed myself keto related foods than carbs?

no that's not okay you idiot

it you've only fasted for two days, you don't need to really be concerned with how much food you eat. you only need to really care after long, 7+ days fasts.
that said, if you want to lose weight, you should be eating at a deficit regardless. keto helps a lot, yeah. it's also really easy to jump back into a fast if you've been on keto for a few days leading up to it

What's the minimum amount of time I have to fast before my body starts consuming fat? I assume it's well over 24hr.

Also how do you anons perform at the gym while fasting? Do you intentionally go a little lighter or just do your normal routines?

Plz spoonfeed me

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I'm pretty sure if you fast on just pure water, your metabolism slows down. On snake juice however, it doesn't slow down. Don't remember if it gets faster.

72 hours

Depends on how much you ate and how used you are to fasting. I enter ketosis about 12h after my last meal if I work out and it wasn't an OMAD size meal.
For the gym, I noticed my strength wasn't really lower but my endurance had gone to shit. I could only squat like 3 reps close to my working weight before needing to tap out but I could do the same heavy doubles as before.
It's advisable that whatever you do doesn't require you to recover too much because when you don't eat your recovery is tanked as well. Going lighter (~80%) just to keep the muscle stimulated is a good idea, but you might as well forgo weight training entirely and just do a fuckton of cardio

Assuming normal activity around 24 hours you're out of liver glycogen and all other circulating carbs, 48 hours is where you really start to feel it and start entering ketosis and by day 5 of not eating you're getting up to higher levels of circulating ketones.

>tfw just finished 3 day fast

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Thanks boyos, I've never fasted before so I think I'll start right now and see how I feel at the 48 hour mark.

If you feel weird, take some snake juice. If you feel hungry, you will have learnt by that point that hunger leaves after a while if you ignore it (occupy yourself during that time with physical activity). If you manage to get to 72, you can straight fast until more or less lean, like 16% bf and below

fasting is shit because the day after I have a turbo appetite and i go on 0 thru the 2 days

i feel happy when i can eat whatever i want

Yohimbine on a fast? Why or why not?

I don't know what that is but I'm of the opinion of SNAKE JUICE ONLY (a few cups of straight black coffee allowed).

Daily reminder that snake juice can cause liver damage.

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>posting this garbage again when you got refuted to shit in the previous thread and didn't even bother responding to the people who called you out
ok lol

That doesn't change the fact that snake juice is unnecessary for fasting.

Anyone else's hair fall out doing any form of fasting? No one in my entire family is bald and my hair is still falling out.

>white rice
trash
>lamb sandwich
remove the bread and eat the meat, then back to fasting

It's necessary to keep your metabolism from flatlining and to negate the very real life-threatening effects of refeeding syndrome. Plus it just makes the whole process easier.

Referring syndrome won't happen to 99% of people because they're not retarded and don't fast for 2 weeks in a row.

What do you mean you got it, you took the plate to your room? Just take it back and say you won't be eating the next X days
People come here because they're desperate to lose weight, so they're likely fat enough to fast several weeks in a row before they see results in the mirror. Fuck off with your misinfo, cuntface

It's more important to take b and c vitamins than it is to take minerals. You people are fucking clueless.

There's nothing retarded about fasting for over two weeks, and it's a very real and ideal situation for our more fat obese boys who look towards fasting to better their lives.
People with more weight on them and who've gotten used to fasting and can make it past the first week will very realistically look to fasting "UNTIL THEY AREN'T FAT ANYMORE", and there's nothing wrong with that so long as they keep taking their snake juice. If you talk him out of taking snake juice, he could actually die.

>tfw if I lost 40 lbs I'd go from a 5 to a 9
>tfw started at 280 after gaining from 180
>down to 250
>tfw 6'5" so I dont have much to go before I'm hot again

You have vitamins stored in your fatcells. They get released as you burn the fat. You can't store electrolytes though, because of their nature that would only cause chemical imbalances.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you haven't done any research, shut the fuck up

>there's nothing retarded about fasting for prolonged periods of time
>humans have essential water soluble vitamins that they can't store and deplete rapidly

You're literally a deranged animal. Uneducated science illiterates like you shouldn't be giving advice to anyone.

Water soluble vitamins aren't stored in fat cells you braindead fucking teenage low IQ subhuman vermin.

Just take a multivitamin if you want to extended fast lol problem solved

I'm going to look into it, I can't right now. Doesn't change the fact that snake juice is important unless you can have a doctor monitoring you 24/7

Snake juice is dangerous and unecessary.

Explain how it's dangerous and unnecessary. You've only stated you need Vitamin C & B, which the solution seems to be to just take a multivitamin.

I will never understand why there are so many anti fasting shills. I have never seen shilling like this.

>let me drink potassium there's nothing dangerous about that

Literally 80 IQ child.

Pretty sure the dosage matters, user. 2 grams or so of potassium a day never killed anyone. It's like 600g of banana

Sorry user but I'm really not seeing how taking the recommended 2560mg of potassium(from nosalt) per day is bad for you. It's not like you're one shotting it. You mix it coupled with sodium and drink it gradually throughout the day.
Literally everything I can find on the internet says you're a retard. Can you elaborate further with actual arguments this time?

>Himalayan Pink Salt

Anyone who thinks Himalayan pink salt is better than iodized table salt is literally a braindead retard.

elaborate for us braindead retards then

They're both NaCL you fucking moron, there's no difference. And you get iodine from one, and not from the other.

>discord for fasting
Okay why

Week of dry fasting complete in around 4 hours from now anons. Thanks for these threads, helped me so far.
Can't decide what to do when I can drink again tho, shall I do snake juice or coconut water?