What could cause lack of muscle gain in someone who is eating plenty, has high testosterone, and is working out hard?
Are there any genetic or medical causes of inability to build muscle?
What could cause lack of muscle gain in someone who is eating plenty, has high testosterone, and is working out hard?
Are there any genetic or medical causes of inability to build muscle?
>eating plenty
I used to think that if you put in the work you'd get good results, but I actually trained with a guy who was consistent, had a good routine and generally did everything right as far as I could tell. He also made absolutely no gains at all and was very weak. He eventually gave up, and I don't blame him.
telling lies could be one of the issues
Progressive overload, and a scale. If the weight on the bar isn't increasing and your weight on the scale isn't increasing then you need to eat more and lift harder/program better
Lifting intensity
>muuh hard gainer
first of all, dont expect to blow up within days. building muscle mass is something you do over the span of 20 years, not a couple weeks. second, dont work out hard. work out smart. overtraining is counterproductive and proper recovery is just as important as lifting
yes there is large genetic variance but everyone can gain muscle mass so stop with the excuses. you must be doing something wrong.
You either didn't read my post or you didn't understand it. The guy I was talking about work out consistently for months and by the end of it had barely made any strength gains. He was squatting around 60kg 3x5 and pressing around 30kg 3x5 at a bodyweight of over 90kg. This is definitely not normal for a 20-something guy. I see people doing the most retarded shit as beginners and still make way more gains than this guy.
High SHBG will kill your gains. You can >1200 test but if you SHBG is also high it will gobble it all up and render it useless, leaving you with less usable testosterone than a 12 year old girl
Are you joking? Those lifts are weak as fuck and 3x5 isnt nearly enough volume
Not him but you type like a retard and seem to not understand that diet is like 80% of the process for getting bigger. And 30kg 3x5 OHP is not abnormally strong by any means for 20 year olds.
It doesn't matter one bit if you train "better than the retard shit most beginners do" (because they get 0 gains) if you have a shit diet (which you haven't observed).
>Those lifts are weak as fuck
Yes, that was the whole point.
>3x5 isnt nearly enough volume
You're dumb. 3x5 is exactly the volume novices have used for literally decades to make great gains. You can argue whether it's optimal or not, but we know for sure it works very well so it does not explain his lack of progress.
sure thing knowitall. we are all wrong. thousands of years of human knowledge, science and experience is all wrong. your goody good m8 can violate the laws of physics and do everything right and still not get results
go fuck off, sniff your farts somewhere else
How much sleep?
It's true that I don't know his diet, but I have observed a ton of beginner over the years and seen what typical progress looks like. Also, most beginners have poor diets anyway. The point is that this guy was such an extreme outlier.
Your set has to take at least 45-60 seconds for hypertrophy
3x5 is very little volume, even for beginners. 5x5 is more common and decent beginner routines like GCZLP add another instance of 3x10.
You're an idiot. If there's anything thousands of years of science and experience has shown us it's that there are always people who are way better than the average, but also people who are way worse. Nobody is saying that he literally cannot make gains, or that he couldn't have done better, but there is no science that say everyone will make gains at the same rate.
wrong
No
Optimal does not mean necessary
>You're an idiot.
speak for yourself illiterate fucktard
read >yes there is large genetic variance but everyone can gain muscle mass
Gee, you're right, it isn't his program. Maybe he's one of those guys with a condition, the 1 in 1,000,000 that has a subconscious that is limiting his strength, rare but not unheard of, like the lizard brain recognizes the gym is not a survival situation so limits effort to preserve energy.
Or, maybe like everyone else is saying and all former skellies know, he's not eating enough.
t. Formerly 6'0 140lb now 6'0 195 and still going.
Look, literally thousands of people have done 3x5 as novices and make excellent progress. I did it myself up to a 148kg 3x5 squat a few years ago. We can argue about the best novice routine, but my point is that 3x5 is more than good enough. His lack of progress wasn't caused by doing 3x5.
The real answer is your programming. You are probably doing 7 rep sets. Change to a three part combination of power (reps 0-2), explosiveness ( reps 3), strength (reps 5x5), and hypertrophy (reps 8-12). Keep tempo during your hypertrophy training. Do Power on Monday, explosiveness on Tuesday, Strength on wednesday, and hypertrophy on friday.
He probably wasn't eating enough, but people who don't eat enough typically stall in the 100-120kg range for 3x5 squats. Even people who cut weight on SS end up squatting much more than 60kg after several months.
>Are there any genetic or medical causes of inability to build muscle?
Yes, but you don't have any of them. You're just impatient or lazy. Consider SS+GOMAD.
>very little volume
That's the point. Beginners should focus on making strength gains and perfecting their form on the big 4, and the best way to do that is with low volume high intensity high frequency training. If you wanna add 3x10 curls to a novice program then go ahead, but the foundation should be low volume heavy compounds.
I think you're actually an idiot.
>Jow Forums pass user
>retarded
Checks out
Rep range doesn't matter and volume isn't even defined since 20 reps 50% is less taxing than 5 reps 80% even though 20x50 is 1000 and 5x80 is 400. Only reps near exhaustion count towards growth so the only thing that matters is sets near failure, which shkukd be 5-10 per week for large compounds. Thank you so much
>Thank you so much
Thank you so much. now delete that post
You're not eating enough, make sure you eat about 200g of protein a day and calculate your bulking calorie number and hit it
You actually need to calculate everything and plan out your diet
You can't just work out and convince yourself you're eating right because you're definitely not
Read the sticky
fuck off tripfag
probably gad no sleep, a shit diet, snd also thus guy sucks at wirking out. Also mabye low test