I have the feeling lifting will fuck up my body in the long run. Mostly the back. Is it something inevitable...

I have the feeling lifting will fuck up my body in the long run. Mostly the back. Is it something inevitable? The majority of old people I know that used to lift have back problems and they associate it with lifting. It’s not because of poor form, it’s because you constantly expose your body to moving weights and that can increase your muscle size but will affect your joints/bone structure.

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>Is it something inevitable?
The way Jow Forums does it? Yup. No way around it.

Although I don’t usually lift like Jow Forums advices, it still bugs me the fact that it will damage my body. Muscles can adapt to moving more weight, but bones or joints aren’t so effective in adaptation

Well, then lift lower weights with more volume? What's your problem exacly?

I got a hernia from suitcase deadlifting 285 lbs with one hand. What about you?

Don’t have any problems atm. Sometimes my lower back hurts and knees hurt a little but then goes away. But im 20, and I’m just thinking it will start being am issue when i get older, these isolated soft pains will being frequent and more painful. Im just trying to prevent it from happening

If you lift with proper form and don't ego lift then you can keep lifting into your elderly years. Only retards get injured doing retarded shit. All the weight lifting exercises you do should be done using the proper and natural ROM.

>not poor form
how do you know this? When I look around the gym the majority of people deadlifting are rounding their back and the majority of squatters are butt-winking.
If this is how people lift in a time where everyone has access to 1000’s of hours of tutorials telling them exactly not to do this and the ability to record themselves to check their own form then what hope did pre internet boomers have.

Athletes are going to wear out their bodies from pushing human limits for years. You’ll be fine with your 3pl8 deadlift.

Thats another issue. Everybody claims having good form, and maybe they did sometimes but other times you just do it badly because you put more weight or you want to do it slower, etc. You can learn how to do it properly but doesn’t guarantee you will do it correctly everytime. And that fucks you up

No, what fucks you up is being a retard and not lifting with proper form. Why the fuck would you lift more weight than you're capable of controlling. Not everyone has a double digit IQ like you do, you worthless fucking idiot.

Just don't fall for the powerlifting meme and you'll be alright. People keep pushing themselves on the squat and deadlift and it is really unnecessary.

The majority of old people have back issues. Herniating a disc will happen to almost everyone at some point in their life. It isn't the end of the world. When you lift you can do things to protect your back. Always stress form over weight. Strengthen your core and back with supplementary lifts. Make that mind muscle connection. Feel the correct muscles activate when you lift.

Every back injury I've experienced happened laying in bed or getting in or out of vehicles.

A strong back is less likely to get injured. Just don't ever try to go beyond 2/3/4/5 if you're worried

Unless you’re doing it wrong. Lifting is supposed to make your body stronger, not just your muscles. Your joints, bones, tendons, etc. all have to adapt to the training you conduct. If you get strong, you’ll be more durable than the regular twig.

I always lift with weight I know I can move with correct form. But some last reps, or when you add a little more of weight can make a difference (maybe imperceptible) on the form amd in the long run harm you.
I lift like an average dude, try my best but never go super heavy
I fear back injuries the most, so I try prioritizing form over weight. The thing is I think eventually my body will take the damage, just because of lifting

if you're going for a new max it's very likely your form might break down. So yes you should have good form but you can still get injured

But how come joints or bones adapt to lifting? Maybe joints can be somewhat trained by repeating a movement, stretching, etc but it is not even near of the adaptation a muscle overcomes. And bones, they can’t be trained really. So you will have a body that has developed muscle but without improved joints/bones in the same way

I think your reading comprehension is bad, lifting will invariably decrease the overall likelihood of injury due to the increased strength of core and stabiliser muscles when used in everyday life. The body is supposed to push things really hard and when you dont you'll have bad weakness everywhere and get injured picking up a tire or some shit

Not sure what you mean. Strength training does strengthen bones, and it does strengthen tendons, both just take longer to adapt than muscle (which can be a source of tendon injuries when people become too strong too quickly, especially after 30)

I was personally quite worried about this as well. I would do a squat with ~220lb and make sure someone was watching my form. Each time after though, if I were to hang from a bar(as if I were to do a pull up) my entire spine would feel pain for the first 5 seconds or so.

I would like to emphasize that I have never had any back pain or injuries outside of this case scenario.

What do you guys think about these raised platform one leg squats I have been seeing/trying. Rather than say, 160lb+220lb on both legs(190lb), try 160lb + 30lb(190lb) on one leg while raised on a platform.

Overall its the same weight, your stabilizer muscles are working harder to balance on one leg, and to top it off, the total weight on your back is minimal.

Tendons or joints can strengthen but will do in a slower pace than muscles as you said. But how come bones strengthten really? They are solid, I thought it was all about how you feed (calcium) when you were a kid/adolescent. As I said you would have strong muscles, somewhat trained joints/tendons but the same bones

Oh my goodness. Where are you from, Planet Fitness?
Lifting will actually improve your resistence to chronic back injuries because it strenghtens your core and your spinal erectors, amongs all the others muscles. Did you know that most of the hernyas come from sitting all day and/or from bad posture? Now you know it.
>old people have back pain due to lift
Yes, lifting with POOR FORM. I can guarantee you that all the possible hernyas and injuries come in the early months of lifting because you approach the gym without a proper knowledge about form, exercises (what are good and what are bad), or because you listen to some quack on internet. And for EGO, of course: because for ego you lift more than you can, messing up your form and hurting yourself.
>lifting will affect your bone and joints structure
Unless you have to become a pro strongman, powerlifter or bodybuilder, you don't have this risk. The excess will hurt you, not the lifting itself that will make your bone and joints better instead. Train with 65-75% of your 1RM, leaving 1-2 reps of buffer in every set, while increase the weights gradually through the months, without speed up things and leaving your ego out.
Another thing most Jow Forumsizens miss that will improve greatly your joints health and make your lift much better is doing exercises for mobility and stability, like Pilates or Yoga. Many lift without realizing to have unbalances or limited mobility, as well a newbie like you surely has to have them. Yoga and above all Pilates make these better and also strenghtens your core and spinal erectors, so my advice is to do both pilates and lifting.

That is a fair and reasonable concern considering I either pulled or tore something in my lower back squatting lmao3pl8 roughly 2 months ago. Then had to spend the next 2 day laid out in bed cause even sitting down sent sharp pains up my spine. Finally getting back into doing 1 1/2 plate squats, I think I'm just going to set 2 plate as max weight and focus on forms and reps for a while.

>Lifting will decrease chance of injury
Yes
>Lifting heavy with squats and deads will decrease chance of injury
No usually not, ask Coleman. It's kinda like more people are killed by cows than sharks, but that doesn't mean swimming with a great white is a good idea.

Not exactly. Everytime you train, you make micro-fractures in your bones; your body naturally heals these micro-fractures but the new tissue is stronger than before, making the bone stronger. It's bot just a lifting things, it happens with sports in general, but as you hit all the muscles it strenghtens hypothetically all your bones, while if you are a runner, for example, it affects just your feet.

t. Ex runner that after an x-ray exam to my foot get questioned if i run, then i asked doctor how he knew it and got all the answers i needed.

These was really helpful. Thanks anons!