Starting Strength

Because it's a meme and zoomer retards will believe anything they read online.

Because it's the best beginner routine you can run

why are you shilling so hard against SS and strength training?
it's like you don't want people to make it.
you're pathetic.

The best beginner routine is 3x15 or even 1x20 (With tons of different exercises).
That way, your body gets accustomed to lifting, noob gains still give you max strength and you won't injure yourself. Basically, you get a good fitness level and then you can look into specialized routines.

It's just an Jow Forums shill
Don't bother

Nobody who ever did SS made it.

Absolute dogshit program. Plenty of other programs suitable for beginners that will yield more than 2x the gains than SS.

>3x15 or 1x20
>cardio-tier rep ranges
>implying this many reps make you stronger
>implying a noobie wouldn't injure themselves easily doing high rep crap while their form deteriorates
Is this a joke?

Name one

>expecting to look good on a BEGINNER program

Come on

>implying this many reps make you stronger
>implying they don't
Strength gains aren't either/or. There is no magical cut-off where you suddenly train endurance. You still get max strength gains when doing 100 reps - small ones, sure, but nobody is advising you to do 3x100.
Also the added blood flow will help strengthen tendons and ligaments.

>implying a noobie wouldn't injure themselves easily doing high rep crap while their form deteriorates
Yeah, that's what I'm implying. If your form gets shit during your last reps, the weight is too heavy for you.

>Yeah, that's what I'm implying. If your form gets shit during your last reps, the weight is too heavy for you.
That's not remotely true
No one can do this many reps with a challenging weight without getting fatigued, especially someone who has never lifted before

>8 months SS
That's not the program, SS would never last you 8 months. So he just fucked around in the gym while eating like a pig and then called it SS.

This is what SS victims actually believe.

What do you gain from shitposting, I am genuinely curious
I bet he never read the book or ever heard of a power clean either

>What do you gain from shitposting, I am genuinely curious
>Disagreeing with autist memes is now shitposting
Are you from Jow Forums or something?

post body incel and then have sex

So you're doing it just for the (you)s?
Typical Jow Forums

SA. The main Jow Forums-approved beginner program.

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>5 day split for beginners
>all this shit each day
>implying a beginner can or should ever do this much crap and learn this many different movements instead of learning the basic compounds and a few accessories
>Warm up with some light cardio and stretching
>Eat little fat or carbs
>Drink juice for muh energy
Is this some form of superior trolling which I am unable to detect?

>Does SS
>Calls others incels

>drink plenty of fruit juice
hahahhahahahahahahahahaha

why not do SS and eat clean and track your macros ? have anyone ever done that ?

He got some decent face gains, just needs to grow the beard out a bit more.

Because, if you're underweight or skinnyfat, it's really hard to "eat clean" while gaining the weight that is required to progress on a balls-to-the-wall linear progression routine.

>it hard
yeah no shit, you can still eat clean, this is where the dyels fail and get fat, they want instant results and get ripped in 3 months, this doesnt work this way

>it's really hard to "eat clean" while gaining weight
NOBODY said this shit was supposed to be easy. Looking fucking juicy is 24/7 work nigger.

No shit. If we're going to go further you're going to need to define "eating clean".

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oh nononono

>routine with deadlifts, power cleans and chin-ups doesn't build upper back
lel

Why do retards think ANY routine will make someone look good in 3-6 months? (which is how long SS should last max)

Eating clean for health: meat, veggies, fruits, slow digesting carbs, micros, etc.
Eating clean for body building: Slight calorie surplus
Eating clean for non retards: Combine the two above

Here's the before pic. If you think that's not an improvement you're delusional.

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You just stated a bunch of food groups. By your definition a leg of confit duck with caremalized shallots, pommes anna and cherry jus is "clean". In which case I completely agree; it would be entirely possible to "eat clean" at a significant surplus. Unfortunately most, if not all, beginners think "eating clean" means boiled chicken and brown rice which means they will not gain weight because 3500 kcal of boiled chicken and brown rice weighs over 3 kilos. To such a quantity of food no beginner is adapted.

It isn't. Unless you equate looking like a malformed gay prostitute with looking better than a normal skinny teen.

Because you can look better in 6 months. You can put on a noticeable amount of muscle and lose fat if you’re a beginner in six months.

This. Don't work out you'll look like a gigolo.

Yeah no shit. And SS will achieve that like any routine will.

But no routine will have someone looking good (by good we're talking not getting laughed at on Jow Forums) in that amount of time.

I know OP might be a shit stirrer, but i honestly agree. I used to fall for the 3x5 meme, i got stronger, but i realized i could have achieved a better looking body while STILL building strength (albeit a little slower) with basic bodybuilding style training in the hypertrophy range. While also saving my back and knees from injury.

Basically, the golden era guys had it right, building muscle is the most important thing, and if you want to progress to powerlifting eventually, it will be easier because of your mass and the volume your body is accustomed to.

Mark is full of shit.

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You're right, it doesn't.

Any routine that needs to be prefaced with "well, you're supposed to ignore the routine and add in "x" filler!" is a garbage routine.

Vertical and horizontal pulls are mandatory, rippletits prescribes way too much lower body volume, his program sucks.

You haven't read it, have you?

>lets base a natural beginner routine on a juiced out body builder routine
Not even a ss shill, but you are a fucking idiot

this

If you want to build strength, doing triples and singles and shit will help the most but that kills the beginner so 3x5 is a good alternative then just hit 2 sets of 10-12 after to destroy that exhausted muscle

natural bodybuilders and powerlifters have essentially the same ammount of lean body mass

haha what the fuck is this. looks like something an r9autist would put together after reading the names of a few exercises on wikipedia.

>you're supposed to ignore the routine
>all of the stuff he mentioned is included in the program
???

>bro splits
>arm day

That's a yikes from me.

Dude, anyone get laughed at on Jow Forums. Where do you think we are?

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>he didn’t read the book
99% of people who shit on SS fall into this category, no surprise.

The entire book, garbage.

All starting routines are similar, his is just the worst one.

Please stop replying to the bait you absolute retard

Hello newfriend

Starting Strength is an absolutely shite beginner routine. Nothing about its programming makes the best routine to get strong. In fact, the programming is quite bad. Rippetoe is a literal cuck and a fat fetishist with no knowledge of strength training. His solution to every issue is 'lmao just get fat like a real man'.
Rippetoe has not produced ONE (1!) elite athlete. Not in powerlifting, not in football. SS doesn't even really make you strong. If you actually followed a good beginner routine that realises that strength comes from programming you would be stronger pound for pound and you would look much better. Here is the big shocker for all the feeders: eating way above your tdee doesn't aid any process in the body. Not muscle building, not cns recovery. If you gain fat, it means you're consuming calories your body has NOT a SINGLE use for.

based and not retarded pilled

hello dumb person who recommends beginners do 45 reps of each exercise

>he's baiting
>no he's serious
Make up your mind first before calling me a retard for not underestimating the stupidity of people on this board

>do SS
>don’t eat like a pig or drink gallons of milk
What kind of body will this get me?

In 6 months, you will notice a change when you have a pump. But stacy down the street wont be able to notice

A strong good looking body

You can't do SS without becoming a fat pig. The programming is too bad, you will just endlessly stall

I don't understand why people don't want a strong back and legs. They are what you use the most in an average day.

Because it makes you look like shit. Just do compounds and accessories it's not that hard lol

Eating tide pods to clean out your insides. It's all the rage with zoomers

I did SS for 5 months and didn't get fat or anything, are you retarded?

you'll be fine, you'll have big legs and as soon as you switch programs you'll be balanced

I did SS for the timeframe in the pic, all I did was add a 6 min ab workout everyday. I dunno I thought it was pretty good especially for getting comfortable with Deadlifts and Squats.

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So are you supposed to eat over your TDEE while following SS? I haven't read it yet, just answer the question

You mustn't forget that OP did "SS" himself based on a crappy template he found online.

Do incline bench

If you are skelly and want to grow yes

If you are fat then eat at your BMR with high protein

Should have maybe done the same pose but whatever, results are visible anyway. How did you progress (starting/current) bodyweight and lifts?

I’m doing flat bench now, should I add that or swap out?

Bodyweight I actually don’t know, I was 5’8 149 I have to be at my heaviest 140.
Lifts aren’t impressive but when I stopped I was 165 bench, 185 squat, 225 deadlift (hardest for me to get the movement right), and 85 ohp. All of those are 3x5

Add it. Just add a few accessories for each muscle group in general. Accessories are nothing to be afraid of. You don't even have to go overboard, but just make sure to have a few exercises for each muscle group

Word. Thanks man

>decline bench for accessory to flat bench
kek

>results are visible
the dude lost a little weight doesn't matter what routine he followed

I think it's fine to start out with SS, as long as you move on when it stops working and don't try to extend it by constantly resetting, "eating through the sticking point" and increasing rest times above 5 minutes.
Maybe do some cardio as well if you're not already doing some in your spare time, so your work capacity isn't complete shit once it's time for intermediate programming.

>increasing rest times above 5 minutes
Why do you consider that bad?

Rippetoe covered this in a podcast. Elite athletes are genetic freaks scouted out from high school. Their strength and conditioning coach literally doesn’t matter when you have top 1% genetics.

Alright, in your opinion what is the best beginner strength routine?

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Why would you ask that a non-lifter?

Workouts will take a long time and you'll need to increase the number of sets you do once you're an intermediate, so it's better to get in the habit of doing shorter rest periods. Also there doesn't seem to be any benefit to resting more than 5 minutes.

There absolutely is, even if it's more psychological than physical.
I'd rather wait 3 minutes longer than risk failing my precious OHP set

where the fuck are normal squats

You are all sub-200wilks, dyel shits who haven’t read the book or did GOMAD when you were already a fat, flabby faggot
>you will just endlessly stall
That’s the point you dumb nigger, you run it until you stall then transition to another program

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Looks like the kinda program I’d write for myself as a retarded 16 year old