hey I just started lifting weights on machines like 6months ago
pretty much I'm only doing shoulder press and lat pulldown because I don't like the other ones, doing it roughly every other day unless I'm just not feeling it
should I do some more or is that sufficient? am I covering all my upper body muscles ? can I just do pushups or something?
Why does everyone feel comfortable using machines but not barbells?
How the fuck you supposed to do lat pulldowns with dumbbells?
Do a pullup
>With dumbells
>I don't like the other ones
Not gonna make it with that garbage attitude OP. We all hate certain exercises but guess what? We fucking do them because we're not fucking basedboys.
>should I do some more or is that sufficient? am I covering all my upper body muscles ? can I just do pushups or something?
EZ:
1. Place a pair of dumbbells on a box beside a pullup bar.
2. Do a bar pullover or a muscle up.
3. Tuck your legs under the bar.
4. Lean forward to swing around the bar. Keep your legs tucked.
5. Now, as you are upside down and hooking the bar with your hips, reach dumbbells.
6. Do your set.
Did I mention dumbells?
Machines ease the use of stabilizers.
>Not gonna make it with that garbage attitude OP. We all hate certain exercises but guess what?
OK which machines or exercises do I add so I can have all the muscles ?
I dono that this is a garbage attitude, I just don't like the feeling of doing weightlifting, I'm wondering if it's lack of protein or fatigue or something. It's not that it hurts, it just feels like my arms are... dead in some way.
Been trying to do bars and powder but it makes me sick if I stack it all up at once.
>OK which machines or exercises do I add so I can have all the muscles ?
Squat, Deadlift, Bench, Rows, Pullups, Overhead Press.
from wordcount it sounds like I should use dumbells
should I just pick them up and wave them around? is that gonna workout my whole arm and then I don't have to do anything else?
Should I do pushups along with that?
> squat, deadlift, bench
that's some dumb shit for chads, I'm trying to get strong not look like a fuckboy
Tidepod generation
These are good, but you should also have some exercises to more directly work the pecs (overhead pressing does work pecs but not enough, imo). I would suggest bench press. I would also suggest replacing the shoulder press machine with a barbell overhead press, and (once you're strong enough) replace the lat pull downs with pull ups. That's a decent ammount of upper body being worked, though I would also throw in barbell rows.
You sound like a bitch who's afraid of some hard work. Man up and fucking do the lifts.
Pullovers, bro.
still haven't said what else to do tho
Never gonna make it. Why do you even lift if you don't want to lift...
Heavy compound lifts you fucking nigger
Pick a beginner program, follow it, then pick an intermediate program or develop your own.
This minus the kkk-wannabe vibes
thanks for the serious reply
>barbell rows
can I do that with dumbells or does it have to be a barbell?
what muscles is this gonna add? I notice that there is a lot of overlap with the various machines which is how I settled on the two I'm doing consistently now, otherwise it's tough to make it through the workout
> bench press
can I do a chest press machine instead? Is there a real advantage to free weights over machines?
> replacing the shoulder press machine with a barbell overhead press
why?
> replace the lat pull downs with pull ups
do I need to be able to lat pulldown my body weight in order to make this switch?
Thanks.
I have been so far avoiding this and just taking personal advice from acquaintances and shitposting on Jow Forums, because I hate structure and authority in my life and I don't really care about getting RIPPED, I just want to be reasonably healthy, and weightlifting seems like a necessary part.
I will reconsider reconsidering
Yes you can do dumbell rows instead but I personally prefer bent over rows
The big advantage of bench press over chest machines is that bench press activates your chest more and also works you delts
No you have to be able to do a pullup, if you can't find a pullup assistance machine or start doing only the negatives of the pull up
You're not cleverly independent. You're not a "lone wolf". You're just stupid.
You have been doing nothing but lat pulldowns and shoulder presses on machines. Probably you haven't even progressed, and your form is shit.
>You're not cleverly independent. You're not a "lone wolf". You're just stupid.
??? lmao
you got some baggage or something you want to talk about?
You know what. You're right. I needed this.
I'm not a clever lone wolf genius athlete astronaut.
I'm just a regular person just like everybody else, and I need to MAN UP.
I'm going to watch those tapes, and then I'm going to do what everybody else is doing, because godammit I need to reduce the size of my ego and follow the lifting herd to get those gains, bro.
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You can move more weight using a machine.
If you have to use a machine you can't move the weight.