Mil/fit/ Thread

I would argue that you don't really need to worry about half of that stuff until basic. The only thing that you need for basic is a body and to be reasonably fit. The Discipline, Bearing, Tact, and Bullshit Tolerance will all come in Boot Camp. Same with guns, some of the best shooters in my Company in basic and after were guys who had never held a gun before basic. I would say this is because they paid attention, didn't believe they already knew how to shoot, and didn't have bad habits already.

No.

>lances
'Rah dude, what unit?

I know what you're talking about now. They went over it very briefly in basic and we had regular drills in ait on different situations when handling fire. Never heard it called a polar call for fire though, nor the term polar-distance either. We'd just guesstimate the number of meters when calling out the insurgents for that

Literally none of what you said is applicable to the (ch)air force. I've been enlisted 3 years, never met more complainers or worthless people in general while I've been in. Also never met more bros, either.

>the only preparation you need is to be below 90 IQ
>Wont let you join if you don't have a certain ammount of credits
You could be a fucking genius but they won't allow in dropouts

What I wrote is what people who have been/are in the Italian Army and Navy sayed to me.

All I had was the ability to pass a 50/50/50 pt test before I went, so I passed my run and situps on the first pt test (although my pushup form was off so I had to fix that during it). But literally everything else just comes with being there for 10 weeks

2/2 Echo co. Been out since ‘12 though.

Well yeah. If you couldn't see public schooling through then how the hell do they expect you to see your contract through? Besides if you are really as smart as you think, you could just go take one of those GED tests and that'll get you in without a diploma

Exactly, get reasonably fit before and then just learn what you can as you go through.

Got out in '16 myself

Best thing about basic training was the sprint-walk intervals we did. Shit actually worked and significantly helped my run time. Then I got to my unit and they said that shit was all TRADOC bullshit. Army is fucking stupid man.

Was with 2/3 then lat-moved to the Wing to do some Air Traffic Control.

I never said I was a genius I'm just saying where I am hey won't allow you to do the knowledge test if you don't have a minimum 13 creds and that's before you're even IN the military

>Serving for your country
>If we Europeans
Are you one of those Turkish who think they are European?

I’ll offer up a small amount of hindsight advice, looking back on my experiences (TBS, IOC, work ups and work ups and work ups and Afg. deployments): stamina, endurance, and mentality are key factors. Being strong DOES help. Strength training is a contributing factor. But bear in mind, you will never do AMRAP or EMOM or a 1 rep max in basic, at a selection course, or anything that matters outside of unit PT maybe. You WILL run, a lot, and hike, and do all manner of push ups/pull ups/ body weight exercises. Per your unit and MOS obviously. (mostly) anyone can do these things, or force themselves to do them, with a great diet, good sleep, low stress levels, recovery time, etc. The ability to do these things when sleep deprived, under duress, when sick,with poor nutrition, is way more important than your murph time on a day off from work.

Yeah it's a prerequisite before they do anything

This. You can be as strong as Heracles but if you have shit stamina you're going to have a bad time

I am Italian,I sayed "We Europeans"because I was making a general discourse about the european race,Turks are asiatic.

I don't think any EU nation other than Turkey needs military right now. And Italian and Turks look pretty alike.

What are the most common military injuries that vets suffer from?

Current routine for the next 3 months. My gym routine is pretty flexible as far as exercises goes as currently my focus is general conditioning

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Hands down it's knee, ankle, lower back injuries, and Tinnitus

Knees if you're speaking in terms of combat jobs. Rucking around absolutely destroys your shit.

That's a lot more effort than I put into it, but where the hell are the situps? I get that you have planks in there but the only way to get better at situps is to do more situps.

Knees, especially if you're airbourne or air assault. I've seen quite a few fucked up shoulders too, but most arise from past injuries coming back rather than being the direct result of the training

Chair Force here

Joined as a skinnyfat 18yo and breezed through basic 3 years ago. As long as you begin BMT as not a complete lost cause you'll get in shape enough. Your meals are monitored and you're mandated to exercise, it is pretty much impossible to fail. Its once you move on to tech school and get more freedom that your shit lifestyle can come in to play.

Ironically I went from having no real physical background to becoming a gymbro now that I've been in a while. Free gym access, free food, and being allowed to lift during the duty day are not bad deals at all. Still planning on getting out though in another 3 years.

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Oh yeah, and hips. We had a lot of tink-tink bastards in our company. Mostly it's the bigger dudes who get it since we run a lot there

Dog, I'm out and don't ever have to "get better" at situps again, still do them once in a while to make sure I can still do 100 in 2 mins though. For the conditioning routine I replace them with hanging leg raises and in the gym I finish every workout with Hollow Body holds, occasionally Situps, and whatever other core exercises I feel like on that day.

Basically what im doing is:
Diamond till failure
30 seconds
standard till failure
30 seconds
wide grip till failure
20 minutes
repeat
I do it 3 times, then do a ladder from 1-15 hand release.
Im trying to attain as many push ups as possible as fast as possible. I do this 4 times per week.
as for cardio, I do hill sprints on those 4 days, and 10ks on the other 3 days.
Every evening I do 40 minutes on a stationary bike.
Im training for RASP. Push ups and run are my real concerns.
Id appreciate any critique. Time is of the essence and I want to make sure my program is done right so I can maximize improvement in that time.
thanks.

My only real critique is that you aren't rucking, unless you do enough of that with your unit. How long do you have?

Ah. Thought you were on of the guys working on getting in. Was going to say, that's a bit extreme for starting bootcamp

Nah dude, I'm maintaining right now. I'm thinking about getting back in but we'll see if they let me with my misdemeanor, probably not desu. If all else fails and I hate life out here any more then I'm just going to try for the good old Legion.

Godspeed user, wish you the best

Can you continue doing the Armstrong program indefinitely, or is it like those intensive push-up programs where you can only do them every few months?

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I mean, you could probably do it indefinitely but In my opinion it's good to switch programs every 2-4 months just to work yourself in a different way until you settle into a pretty personalized routine.

That sounds reasonable. I guess I'll look at the russian fighter program and the official Marine program, even though it seems pretty inefficient.

Which Marine Program are you talking about? Don't forget that it is ok to personalize body-weight programs to your own needs so if you need to make it more efficient, easier, or harder then you can

marines.mil/Portals/59/Docs/PullupTrainingGuide.pdf

marines.mil/Portals/59/Docs/SecretToPullupsHowToGoFrom0To20.pdf

This one. I'm pretty sure it's designed for absolute beginners and doesn't have much value once you can already do 10-15, but I guess I could treat it like a deload period.

Aside from compulsory PT as part of the job, how do you guys train for your fitness testing? As a dude that struggles on the 1.5 mile run, I am curious to know some of the things that others do.

Also curious about how you guys incorporate your personal routines when dealing with the compulsory PT.

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Fucking hell you ruskis are desperate. Kys

Train the way the pros do. Alternate between 3 months of volume training and one or two months of speed drills. The most important factor in running is overall volume, it has the greatest overall impact on VO2 max and muscle fiber generation, speed drills just refine muscle function and range of motion.

Ok those ones, yeah they are pretty worthless once you are able to get to ok numbers. I just do mine 4 days a week with a set number as a target, Say I want to aim for 50 reps in as few sets as possible. I do as many sets as it takes to get there and once I get to that number in 5 or less sets then I bump up my goal. It works for me and it's super easy to keep track of.

AS far as additional training aside from PT I just follow my own gym program or some set volume or strength training programs. When it comes to running I would suggest you start working on shorter distances and doing sprints. A lot of my guys were absolute garbage when it came to the 3 mile run but when I started making them do 200-800 meter sprints for quite a few sets then they all increased their times dramatically.

It also helps if you fix any issues in your running form.

I ruck, I just didnt mention it.
about a mile to the bench where I read and a mile back every day, plus a long hike on weekends.
I haven't been to a recruiter yet, I just know I only get one shot at this and want to be able to do 70 push ups with good form (fuck the 41 club) plus the 5 miles in 40 minutes.
Given my current progress, its going to take longer to reach the push ups than the run.
The reason why time is of the essence is because I hate living with my parents and I just went through a shitty breakup. Being alone all day is ass and I want to be in basic around people and with shit to keep me busy.
So you think the push up program is alright then?

Stew smith says that you should only do push ups every day for a maximum of 15 days because progress halts.
Im doing for the next two weeks then moving on to 300/day AFSAP for 10 days, then testing and crossing my fingers.

What about the french foreign legion?
I don't mind sweeping floors for a couple of years as long as I get to do something later down the road

My buddy got fucked over because his TS clearance turned up ADHD and he didn't disclose at MEPS.
He went to the FFL and did very well in all the initial physical tests.
At the end they told him he passed, but he had something to go home to because he was american, so they didn't let him in.
He said they didn't accept anybody from western nations.
Still, if big army fucks me over, I might as well get a shitty job for a month or two to save up for a ticket and try myself. Maybe if I beg them they'll let me in idk

Its objectively worse than every western military and you've got an 8% chance of being selected and passing their 4 month basic training/screening process, after which as many as 30% of legionnaires eventually try to desert anyway.

The FFL is a meme for slavs and indians now, unfortunately.

They take Americans, they just rate them against each other. If they get 1000 American applicants a year, and 100 of them are combat veterans, but they only have room for 50 applicants, then that's 950 guys who are going home empty handed.

Well I'll let you know that you have plenty of time to get to your goals before you ship out. There's a lot more than just a stellar pt score when it comes to getting into the regiment so just take it one step at a time and when you decide to go to a recruiter just make sure that you get what you want. You have nothing but time right now. Continue to ramp up your ruck weights and mileage very slowly with a cap at 50-60 lbs. If you are seeing results and progress with everything then what you are doing is working for now.

just googled it, seems pretty simple, bet I could get it down in five minutes with an instructor

They will definitely take Westerners, there is usually just a higher chance that they don't have the drive, conditioning, or will desert later on so they are very picky with them. If you are outperforming 90% of the other candidates then you have a decent chance at passing selection. I'm having a go at it in a couple years if things don't get any better

I already ruck at 60lbs and my mileage is already at 10k.
I just need to go faster hence the sprints, and I need to do more push ups. Right now im at 40, which is pitiful.
I wasted 3 years atrophying, my bones are still the same which is why I can ruck so heavy, and 2 weeks ago I couldnt even finish a 5k and now im doing a 10k.
Its just that im so pissed off about all the strength and endurance I lost. It really digs deep.
I have nothing but time, but time goes really slow when you stop living with a girl and start living with your parents again.
I think I have the right mentality for the regiment because I dont see myself quitting for any reason and ive been through a lot of shit for my age and im easy to get along with.
Of course everybody else is gonna say that but somehow I feel like I mean it.
Problem is, I keep hearing story after story of people being disqualified for their push up score at the end. Some say its because the regiment just doesn't like you and cant make you quit so they no count good reps, others say every member of the 41 club coincidentally has shitty score and form.
Whatever the reason is, I need to find the balance between training enough before seeing the recruiter, and getting the hell out of here as fast as possible.

Well the honest to god truth behind increasing reps for bodyweight training is volume and patience. If you are hitting a volume that feels good then be patient, do your steady increases and retest every 2 weeks to a month. If you aren't seeing any improvements in a month then you need to readjust. Do a Pushup day where your only goal in the session is to reach a target rep number in as few sets as possible in as short a time span as possible. Those kind of days really show you where you are at.The numbers will go up. Eat right, control your weight, and get your sleep. You have a good mindset, but you gotta stay patient and driven.

Dying for your country if your defending your own country under attack is one thing. Dying for your country in a colonial war where you are killing people defending their own country on behalf of the bankers war because the country doesn't trade in USD is completely something else.

One could argue that even the latter scenario is for the greater good as it ensures the proliferation of the USD in trade and thus supports the overall economy, but the wars being fought on behalf of the globalist banksters are for their profit, not the people.

There is little to no trickle down effect.

I’m an active duty USMC machine gunner. Don’t join the fucking military if you care about gains or health. You’ll hike for miles and miles and miles with a 70 pound pack and a 27 pound machine gun on your back and fuck up your joints. You do gay ass PTs every morning that also kill your joints and tire you out for the gym. You’ll spend weeks and weeks in the field where you eat shitty MREs and have no access to a gym. I still manage to lift every day that I can and I make decent gains but after every field op I feel considerably weaker when I get back to the gym the day after I get back.

Fuck you, MRE's are only shit if you don't bully your PFC's for their Chili Macs

How do milfags deal with a fucked spine and knees? Compression fractures are fairly common from rucking I'd imagine

I want that thick disciplined military cock pounding my worthless hole

It's a bitter pill to swallow, but true.
Jews dominate this country and use us as cattle.

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