Memed into trying keto diet

why am I holding 5kg of water weight that made me feel better when I lost it? Literally whats the point of carbs then? It was 5kg of dead weight?

Not yet

Carnivore means eating raw meat and raw organ meat. I do this now, but I also drink fruit juice, eat fruit honey, and am also not particularly strict. You definitely should do it, since raw organ meat is the most nutritious food. Cooked meat is not only harmful and carcinogenic, but hardest to digest and lacks the bacteria of raw meat.

Because scale weight day to day is completely meaningless. Track it over 3 weeks and come back to us.

in a week that could easily be 1kg of fat too

Yes you should, it is the best and most natrual diet. Do not forget to eat organ meats and enough fat though. If you skip on those you will feel like shit though. If bulking you should add carbs. You can get that from milk, or you can just add a bit of rice or something.

this diet actually doesn't look too bad actually...raw meat kinda turns me off though, like I'm making kangaroo tonight and im just letting it salt right now and the smell of raw kangaroo is so intense I couldn't imagine eating it raw

Frank is upset he got found out as a homosexual. Sv3rige has a screencap of some PMs from him threatening to "expose" him if Sv3rige didn't take down the video making fun of him.

He also looks better than both of them. He and Vonderplanitz were onto something. They just keep being right whenever I look into it, like high meat actually being a very common practice among many cultures.

Looks like you already fully exhausted the placebo effect, fat fuck, no need to try anything more

Mate he's already balding in twenties. You need to give up keto and go plant based.

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with some natty protein powder ;)

He never got "exposed" jesus get over it. He did extra work standing in the background of a gay flick.

Sv3rige on the other hand drank another man's blood. I would bet money that he and milkjar are closet homos. Those weirdo ex-vegans are always mentally ill.

>raw meat kinda turns me off though
Raw meat is not neccesary, but many people like it. Some types of meat carries a risk of giving you infections and diseases if eaten raw. Like liver and pork meat. Beef has very low risk and I have eaten it raw many times myself. Mostly because of lazyness and sometimes because of the "muh gut flora" meme.

> I'm making kangaroo tonight
Damn I didn't know you ate those things

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he also admitted drining Luna (his gf)'s period blood

He had the same hairline when he was vegan. The "plant based" fad has been so thoroughly debunked at this point the only people doing it are SJWs or liars trying to make a buck off it.

It's simply hard cold truth that plants are nutritionally empty. Vegtards can throw around all the shitty epidemiology studies they want but it doesn't change the facts.

Yeah we eat kangaroo in Australia, it's common meat here. I think kangaroo are classified as a pest actually lol so your free to hunt them with loose regulations. It's also cheap, I got 800g of it for 11$, probably feed me for 2 days

hey what do you guys think about the earth being flat?

>Frank is upset he got found out as a homosexual
>He also looks better than both of them
Dude if you think Sv3rige looks better and healthier than Frank you need glasses. Yes he is bigger, but does not look healthier at all. Sverige is a nutcase. Even though he is right about many things he has some really fucked up ideas that don't make sense at all. Frank always have quality info that is well researched and logic. Can't say the same about Sv3rige

i think its flat and nasa are a bunch of jews

>The "plant based" fad has been so thoroughly debunked at this point
By Youtubers and Bloggers.
>the only people doing it are SJWs or liars trying to make a buck off it.
It's becoming more mainstream and is being used increasingly to treat patients by actual medical professionals.
>inb4 wild conspiracies and jew accusations
Eating a plant based diet is cheaper than pills or even a meat based diet.

You're omitting Tufano's gayboy instagram. Why?

Humans evolved to eat cooked meat.
Cooking is an essential pre-digestion for humans.
Birds have gravel and a gullet
Humans have a fire.

>Humans evolved to eat cooked meat
>get atherosclerosis if they do
Hmm

you dieted and lost weight of course you gonna make yourself think you feel better since you put effort in it

I just started to cook the meat I was eating less and less until it became pointless to even sear it because it was all raw in the middle anyways. Really soon after I started to find cooked meat a little weird because it's always inherently more dry than raw meat. When I was little and my parents would take us to the butchers I was pretty interested in the raw meat, and now it makes sense why. People think it's strange but it's really our instinct to eat raw meat, and it takes some serious social conditioning and fear-mongering to make people think it's disgusting or unhealthy.

Maybe don't start with kangaroo, start with a beef steak.

Have you seen Sv3rige's old videos? He used to look like shit and now he's glowing. He's a retard in many ways, but the positive effect that his diet has had on him is undeniable.

Do they need to be organic? Grass fed? What should we be looking for and where should we look? Butchers?

Outside camera stunts that generate clickmoney that unemployable Latvian welfare leech he is actually eating Ornish diet and is a strictly plant-based vegan. There are at least two expose videos I know of.

>two expose videos
Post them.

post or shut up

im taking the bait
post the videos

>meatheads too dumb to search
or afraid

retard there's no correlation

im not a carnivore nor am I a carni shill.

and i tried searching and came out with nothing. i know that he lies about being totally raw and his a manipulative piece of shit, but for you to claim that he's actually vegan is an extraordinary claim.

stop avoiding the question and post the videos faggot.

>don't do it, u will get keto eyes

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Yes and yes. I don't know what the effects of non-organic meat that was raised poorly are, but I don't fuck around with the antibiotics and hormones that they pump into those animals. A lot of the purpose for eating raw meat is to build a healthy gut with bacteria, and maybe the antibiotics and hormones fuck with that, I don't know.

It's not super hard to find organic, grass-fed meat... my local supermarket chain has it. It's expensive, so you have to find what you can handle to make it work. I have to eat a lot of minced meat because it's the cheapest (and still expensive), but organs are generally cheap too I think. I have to get a lot of calories from fruit juice because I couldn't afford a full meat diet, and don't really want to anyway to be honest. Some foods are cheap as fuck for a reason, and unfortunately those are the ones that are actually harmful for your body: shit like lentils, chickpeas, wheat, beans etc. These are all disastrous 'foods' for your body, so better to plug the calorie gap with fruit juice since it's probably the cheapest alternative.

exactly how are lentils and beand "disastrous" foods

>muh plant toxins and antinootrients

a) they've been selectively bred to minimize these effects

b) that's why you soak them in water for about a day, throw the water out, then fucking cook them in boiling water

c) your gut bacteria can digest fiber and releases vitamin k from it (although eating fibers is bad for you).

>Have you seen Sv3rige's old videos?
What's your point? Meat is good for you and he is proof of that. But he is a fucking nutcase and there are other much better carnivores out there, like Frank Tufano, who is actually smart and has logical and well research arguments for all the different aspects of the carni diet.

*eating too much fibers is bad for you

Even if he is right it's by coincidence. There has to be better proponents for this type of lifestyle than this idiot.

>actual medical professionals.

My family doctor gave me this plant based diet info sheet and told me to follow it.

I asked what happens when your patients follow it, and he said nothing, they have to stay on statins, BP meds, diabeetus meds etc for life.

Meanwhile I am off my BP meds after 6 weeks keto, high meat, diet. Feel fantastic, started running again at 64 years old, lifting PBs blown away etc.

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Honestly, don't listen to anyone here. Just experiment and go with the diet that makes you feel better.

This guy got literal bacterial infections from eating his meat raw.

Now imagine eating raw meat in 2000BC, would you survive without medical care?

There is your answer. Meat should be cooked well.

Indigestible little pebbles with limited nutrients that can hardly be absorbed, and yeah anti-nutrients and plant toxins (regardless of how 'minimised' these effects may be). They're well-known to give the eater pretty bad gas and bloating too, despite a minority of people being able to digest a small amount of them okay if their gut isn't already destroyed (which it eventually will be if a vegan diet is maintained). I was a vegan for three years at least and that happened to me, eventually this shit just became indigestible entirely.

Yeah, he's semi-retarded, but he looks great because he's actually autistic enough to follow the diet completely strictly and drink blood and shit. For people who think the diet is stupid, all they need to do is see how awful he looked before and how good and healthy he looks and behaves now.

>64

post body

Wow, more than double amount of fat loss on low carb. Very interesting. Do you know if it's even higher on keto?

>they have to stay on statins
Every single carnivore who posted their blood test results had super high cholesterol scores

If you're reading this, you went too far.
Only deep layers of trolling beyond this post.

My mood and energy is much better on keto.
More stable with a positive bias.
With carbs my mood and energy fluctuates all day.
I get bouts of sadness and depression for no reason, or I could read something I dont like on the internet and it triggers me and puts me into a shitty mood for an hour.
On keto my mood is rock solid and stable. Not much phases me now.
I think it is due to the ketone called beta-hydroxybutrate (BHB) which has a similar action in the brain to gamma-hydroxybutrate (GHB) the party drug.
When I first went into ketosis I felt like I was on a low dose of phenibut (Aminophenylbutyric acid) which also shares some similarities with GHB.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17011713

>64
BASED
BOOMER

>Every single carnivore who posted their blood test results had super high cholesterol scores
And you still believe the cholesterol is bad meme even though science suggest otherwise?

>I think it is due to the ketone called beta-hydroxybutrate (BHB) which has a similar action in the brain to gamma-hydroxybutrate (GHB) the party drug.
Interesting. I always thought it was because when in keto the body always have a fuel source from your bodyfat

I don't really care about real advice: should I meme myself into doing keto? I'll listen to whoever responds first.

So he got a tan?

Should? No, ot's stupid. A balanced diet is best. Will you die? No. Will you lose weight? Probably. Hard to go over your TDEE with crazy mene restrictions. At the end of the day, the reason for your weight loss will still be because of a calorie deficit and a lack of insulin spiking foods. It's all about calorie control, insulin control, and nutrient timing.

>Should I go full carnivore? Is he right all along?
You should never got full anything unless you can make a living off of it.

Yes user, it is not too late.

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if you want to lose weight yes

>cholesterol bad
>veggies good

Lol if you want to die young be my guest

What the fuck are you doing here, sir?

what kind of kcal deficit do I aim for on this thing? Still 1000 per day?

frank tufano wears makeup and is a closeted homosexual.

he claims he's the first person to come out and say that organs are good for you and the sun is important for us, and so on and so forth.... but he is literally just regurgitating sv3rige's years old information.

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I have a concert in 1 week, how do I not pass out or feel like shit from moshing all day while going through adaptation
cant bring water bottles inside so there goes the ketorade

is something up your ass?

cooking beef kills the nootrients bro, that’s a cold hard fact

whats the stuff on the right of the plate? also how many calories would this whole meal be?

what about the carcinogens in cooked meat

Sv3rige believes cancer is healthy (no, this isn't a joke)

Why does this fuck always have blood dribbling down his chin like god damn toddler

brain

>what about the carcinogens in cooked meat
The carcinogens are from plant oils reacting to the high heat. Don't use plant oils to cook your meat, use butter or lard or nothing at all.

RIP

he ate raw bone marrow from a conventional cow.
it's well established that all animals, even humans, store toxins in fat.
you think a natural cow would've been eating GMO corn and onions with their grass in 2000BC?
dumbass.

fasting forced ketosis.
keto diet macros are a meme outside extreme medical cases.

olive oil is shown to not be oxidized heavily when cooking, like butter.

This nigger is a wild ride

>implying im using therapy keto macros

im doing 2.2g/kg protein per lean mass, ~25g carbs and rest fat

>the keto stare

Sauce? I thought he couldn't get stupider...

Frank's obviously gay but I respect him for not mentioning it once lest people will start thinking that he's politicizing his stuff

What weighs more him or the smartcar?

>Dat assanti bait video

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You're going to have a hard time building strength and muscle without carbohydrates, but keto works quite well for weight loss and maintenance at least.

>bacterial infection
Go check his old vids. He has videos where he eats 1 year old rotting meat. It was from that but eating raw meat is still retarded.

>Sv3rige believes cancer is healthy
Not at all what he said

pure cringe from pencil neck geeks that are trying to overcompensate when in reality they'll never escape their onions blood, no matter how much meat they eat

is he part chinese or something

do you test your blood or urine ketones ever?

>eating raw minced meat
>probably prepackaged mince too
enjoy your parasites