/fraud/

G.O.A.T edition

Before asking your stupid beginner questions (yes, they are stupid), make sure to read ALL OF the r/steroids wiki:
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

>Reddit link
yeah, fuck off

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. (or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use steroidcalc.com/

If you're going to ask a beginner question, make sure to include:
- age
- bf%
- time spent training

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to the previous user asking about gear in canuckland. its a schedule 4 drug which means its only illegal to sell it/manufacture it with intent to sell

>GOAT edition
>Not a picture of Ronnie

what was that booster seat?

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You mean jeff nippard?

Das it mane.
LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYY

No user, i've messed this up.
I meant Jason Blaha.

>be mast
>turn red and post same photo of myself on a board for a bunch of guys to jack off to 10x a day
>have shit proportions so hides behind instathot tier camera tricks

Why are juice heads so dumb
You need literally 2 cycles to put you at your natty peak and then you never have to use gear again to keep the vast majority of your gains where you can live the rest of your life as a fake natty

i know were not supposed to talk source.. but can we talk about jason blaha fucking a chick for some clen and winny when he ran his own lab?

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Reminder in orde to make it you have to either be good looking(face) or intimidating/masculine(height+frame).

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>just cruise on 1.5g /2g of test only
CCFC you might not make it bro

>Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

1. Oral only cycles work, because, you know, they are actual steroids which build muscle.
2. Many oral steroids are more powerful than injectibles and build muscle much faster. That's why people stack them with injectibles at the beginning of a cycle to actually get some gains because the injectibles are so slow at building muscle.
2. Injectibles also shutdown natural testosterone.
3. Many steroid users stack orals with injectibles which put more strain on the body than just taking an oral by itself.
4. You can get more gains in 4 weeks of dbol than in 12 weeks of test fight me
5. Arnold loved dbol, end of discussion.

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>4.
I'm sure a time-stamped physique will be posted alongside these controversial statements in order to prove the author knows what he talks about, and is not just larping to garner outrage from this childish community.

>Hurr durr why did Dr John Zeigler invent dbol

Get twins.

Put one on 50mg dbol per day. (350mg per week)
Put the other on 350mg per week test, hell, let him have 500mg, fuck it 750mg, he can frontload even.

Measure strength and muscle mass at the end of 12 weeks.

Protip: dbol wins.

how redpilled is a bulking/recomp cycle consisting of tren/eq/test/dbol? 200 test, 800eq, 400tren a, 50mg dbol. the eq will lower AI so I won't even get bloated from dbol. Maybe even add some deca?

>recomp cycle
enjoy wasting your gear

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So close, just another 300mg to my current cruise and I can be at alfa blaha 1.5g cruise.

i dont know if I can out-eat tren/test/eq/deca/dbol even if I binge eat every day

I almost don't want to post this cause even I know how this sounds .... But in 4 weeks on dbol at 25mg and test at 500 mg I went from benching 275 to 315.... This was my first ever cycle.... After I dropped the dbol my bench only went up another 10 lbs from then out .... I was eating and working really hard tho

This guy knows what he’s talking about. I did orals for just 3 weeks and put on 50 pounds of muscle. I did injectables about a week later and actually LOST about 30 pounds of muscle. I don’t do any of that stuff anymore but I did manage to gain about 40 pounds of the muscle I lost back by taking this thing called “creatine”. Really packed on some mass. Also to get my test levels back to normal I started taking Viagra. In the end you could say everything worked out good. My smoking hot girlfriend loves when I fuck her super hard after taking my creatine and viagra combination (sometimes I throw some whey protein in there for good measure). I would post a picture of her but she doesn’t have social media. Also I just got a new phone and don’t have any pictures of her on it yet. Also she’s visting her family in Canada right now and I live in L.A so I can’t take a picture of her. But trust me guys, she’s so fucking hot and I bang her constantly.

>le sterons are magic meme

>29 years old
>13% bf
>5 years serious training
>mediocre results despite consistently hitting the gym and having good diet
>200/275/405/515 big 4 at 210-220lbs bodyweight
>test levels pic related

convince me not to go on test

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Steroids have really warped my sexual preferences
I wonder where tren will take me next

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DBOL!!

Best. Steroid. Ever. Words cannot express my love for the lovely Diana, she will be a part of my steroid regime... forever. I’m pretty sure even when I’m 60 and no longer cycling, every once in a while I’ll say fuck it and just jump on Dbol for a few weeks for the wonderful feels and strength it gives. The bloat isn’t that bad if you keep your e in check and your diet on point, but to be honest, I don’t even mind a bit of the bloat. I remember thinking first time I took it “this is what ‘on steroids’ is supposed to feel like!”

Fucking love dbol, 50mg pre workout is the only thing that helped significantly my weak ass squat. I've taken up to 75mg/day for a few days but did not feel any different than 50mg except for making me even hungrier.

Tried every dosage methods there are and I found that am/pm was the one that gave me the best bang for buck.

I love to pair dbol with tren as I don't hold much water when I do. It's nice to still be able to have abs when bulking hard.

Overall 8/10 only downsides are the DD titties it gives me and the fact that I can't run it forever without dying of a liver failure.

My absolute favorite; I may not be the norm, but I never get bloated or watery on It, ran it multiple times, anywhere from 20 to 50mg, my sweet spot is 30mg a day. From my experience I get bigger, stronger, pumps are crazy, I get full just looking at the weights. The best benefit for me is the general feeling of well being while on It, nothing bothers me, confidence gets increased, life is good. The negatives are painfull lower back and calf pumps and decreased appetitte If dosing is higer then 40mg. Liver values get a little elevated, but usually stays in normal range If i keep It at 30mg ED. My lipids are pretty much aways perfect (genetics) and dbol doesnt affect that. All and all, highly, highly recommend for all men woman and children, jokes aside just try it on your next blast, you may be one of the lucky responders.

What does everybody think about doing just a Winstrol cycle. I don’t want to get bloated or grow tits. And before you ask, no I’ve never cycled before.

Kek'd hard, thanks user

careful of the trenbolone rabbit hole.. if you find yourself googling nathalie mars its too late!

I’ve done 2 cycles with dbol, one with test e and one with tren e.

The shit makes you grow, yes a lot of it will be water weight but it’s not as much as ppl try to make out. Unless you have no idea how to control e2 your gains will be loyal.

My findings with dbol is that it’s best stacked with dry compounds and high dose aromasin. I ran 80mg a day with 500mg tren for 8 weeks and the gains were sickening. If you want to blow up fast to the point of stretch mark city then by all means be my guest.

There’s a reason Arnold was running tonnnes of the shit, it’s potent stuff and surprisingly over looked.

jerking off to trannies is pleb tier when you can fuck them with barely any extra effort

inb4 mast reeing

You've done it now. Better have a picture of your apartment ready before mast asks you to post it kek.

What's the minimum tren dosage that one needs to take in order to stop lipolysis?

tren doesn't do that. it stops de novo lipogenesis, an entirely different process.

A lot of pro wrestlers have talked about using the likes of dbol, winstrol, anavar, anadrol and deca in the 80s and 90s without mentioning test at all.

Ok so what's the min dosage required to stop that?

I had a vietnamese girl for a roommate and she was into some strange ass shit (she straight up asked if she could peg my "very fuckable ass") especially femdom/BDSM. After a while I got fed up with her increased sexual harassment and from that point on every time she would try to bring up that shit I would wrestle her to the ground, pin her and then spend the next minute or so playing with her tits and demand that she apologized and acknowledged her place. It was really amusing just to see how butthurt she'd get, and every time I released her she'd immediately try to "get back at me" by groping my ass or something which just meant I got to manhandle her and play with her tits some more.

>Not powerbottoming on her big plastic cock

Pining in my ass for 20 days strait and its looking like a botched surgery.

Plus the pain hasn’t subsided making leg day a problem.

When will it stop hurting?!

just because you can do something doesn't mean it's optimal or even a good idea

>Pining in my ass for 20 days strait and its looking like a botched surgery.
yeah if you're pinning ed you're supposed to have more than one site to inject into...

also what the fuck are you injecting with, 16gs? my pin holes disappear in like a day if that

Yeah not saying that. But for example Scott Hall said in an interview that at one point he only took deca because his natty test was already high kek.

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shut up testicle. nobody likes you

are you rotating injection spots?

I asked this last thread but it died, why the hell am I getting acne on cruise when I didn't get any on blast? I shower 2x day, once before bed and keep my sheets clean, and use acne wipes 2x a day.

>only illegal to sell it/manufacture it with intent to sell
I think you need to re redact that one chief, or at least mention which action is allowed aside from prescribing

you already got the answer last thread, hormonal fluctuation.

Thanks user, hopefully it will go away as my body adjusts to the lower test level. Maybe next time I'll slowly taper to a cruise dose to prevent it.

600mg test e, 30mg dbol.

Are you running an ai on cruise? Your e2 could be high

>pinned delts today
>weird numb pain going in
>remove pin and blood gushes out of shoulder down my arm
>panic and think I'm gonna get a stroke from oil going into my brain

>210
>13%
>those numbers
>no gear
delusions

pretty much this. he will never take a full on frontal angle like this and post it because he literally has fridge proportions and doesn’t even train calves kekkkkk

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how do you manage to tie your own shoes in the morning

13% at 210-220lbs is very doubt.jpg but he could be like 6'7 I guess.

"mediocre results" with a 200lbs ohp is a funny thing to say though

You pierced a vein, it'll be alright tho.

Samefag. What's your goal of making these posts?

Dbol shills get the rope, sdrol is the man's choice.
Just kidding dbol is fine but sdrol did win my heart.

i'm 6'5"

OHP is my only decent lift

dbol master race, ill be slipping it into everything you eat soon

my gyno will eliminate half of all natties when it collects all of the infinity roids

>the gyno kangz

anadrol lifers here.. you came to the wrong neighborhood ese

I'm running 12.5 asin EOD and I got my e2 checked and it was 30 ng/dL, so I know that's not the issue. When I was blasting my e2 came back as 50 and I didn't have any acne then.

Probably just the fluctuations then.

Just pinned my ventroglutes and boy was it smooth. Barely felt the insertion, practically felt like the muscle was numb and has no nerves. Oil went in super easily without resistance, had to make sure to inject slowly and not too fast.

Definitely a comfy injection site. Only downside is you have to twist around to see the site, but that's not a big deal.

his calves look ok, in my opinion. its his complete lack of triceps that kills me

nice. dont forget to rotate to the other side.. its a bit more difficult but i try to pin with my dominant hand but I push the plunger with the other.

You guys are knowers...
What type of shit would batman be on?
He has to optimize everything, mind and body in every single possible way.

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what about the fact hes an inept fucking retard and hasnt achieved the mass or fame required to be such a huge fucking shitstain in /fraud/ ?

This is my plan. Im like 3/5th thru a cycle and plan on doing only one more in like six months and then maintaining with like 170mg test a week till im old.
500mg test / wk
25 ed dbol for first 4 wk
50 mg var ed for last 6 weeks
20 week cycle

Who tf trains calves? Jason genova? Just run uphill on rest days. If youre on gear thatll grow whatever pathetic sliver of muscle belly you have there.

>only one more
sure

>not just throwing in a set of calf raises once a week
GAY.

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HAHAHAHA YOUR BODY LOOKS LIKE A BIG BROWN POO MAKE SOME NEW PICS WHERE YOU ARE NOT DRESSED LIKE A GAY MAN AND WHERE THE PICS PACTUALLY SHOW SOME MUSCLE

>maintaining with like 170mg test a week till im old.


why? just come off completely and let your natural levels come back (if they dont, then you should an hero because not a real man)

Do you ever make new pics? I see this picture in every thread

disgusting

because its not actually them. Mast and Test don't post here any more but someone saved all their pics and people pretend to be them arguing.

>because its not actually them. Mast and Test don't post here any more but someone saved all their pics and people pretend to be them arguing.

imagine

imagine if it was all one person doing this non stop

A new shade of filter every day.

lmao if u actually think this, testify posts with his trip and mast is unmistakable

GOD bro you are too nice. HOW DOES IT FEEL to look in the mirror and realize you will NEVER have an X shape it will always be FRIDGEEEE MODEEEEE


NANNOOO i’m expecting a physique update from you since you’ve been on for a few months

If I’m not a faggot, can I still take juice and why is Yes the wrong answer?

>insert mastlite.jpg

Sup man how are you holding up, still fighting with mast?

You post on 4chins you're a faggot by default.

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Your hips are wider than his.

Always lmao. looking thicker dude. are you still on?

he thinks they are because my hip abductor muscles stick out. here’s a waist pic from a few weeks ago

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Back to deca/tren only but otherwise still blasting.

You still on track? What are you running?

>crops out the other side of his body to show off his waist size
Yes, tren really kills brain cells

just doing 420 test 420 deca right now and throwing in yk11 at 20-30mg per day. dropped adrol because I was getting a bad appetite and couldn’t eat
too bad I hated tren. nandrolone is so much easier on you

>420 test 420 deca
Why baby dose blasts?

because I can train, eat, and sleep without fucking side effects. I may up the deca a bit to 5-600 but that would be max. Running this for 20-24 weeks

>muh sides from less than 1g test
And you wanted to compete?

No wonder you are small

I disagree, if you find yourself googling nathalie mars you finally made it.

what does gear doses have to do with competing? just because one guy runs 3g doesn’t mean I need to, you’re looking at it the wrong way

Imagine believing this.

solo LGD vs solo DBOL experience:

>LGD 5mg ED /w small dose of clomid
>week 1 achy balls (sign of HTPA supressing and balls atrophying)
>week 2 feel more moody and fatigued (low test feels)
>week 3 nocturnal erections gone
>week 4 fatigue and irritability is annoying, harder to get a boner
>week 5 give up because don't feel that great mentally, gained 3kg of water retention and some muscle and strength keep around 2kg
>LGD has a long half life of 24-36 hours so constant testicular suppression


>Dbol 10mg first thing in morning preworkout
>low dose clomid
>dbol short half life (3-6 hours ) means it is out of system by the time you are sleeping and making your own testosterone again during sleep, reducing suppression and keeping balls stimulated with lutenizing hormone for this period
>take a whole day or two off on the weekends for extra natty test recovery
>balls only feel weird/tight for a few hours after taking dbol, maybe due to the estrogen surge (may experiment with low dose arimidex in future)
>balls stay normal sized
>mood euphoria 24/7
>still get nighttime boners, and daytime boners are the same as natty
>basically no sides
>at 4 weeks gain 5kg bloat/muscle keep around 3kg.
>could keep going for more weeks because no sides and feel awesome


Verdict: dbol solo is easily superior to sarms solo (for me)
(results might be due to my unique genetic response, you might have different results)

Probably because dbol is basically a slightly modified testosterone, and LDG is a weird ass synthetic chemical, so your body prefers what is more natural.

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you look natty af