Why is raw milk considered superior? Golden era god vince gironda talked about raw milk...

Why is raw milk considered superior? Golden era god vince gironda talked about raw milk, western a price foundation is pro raw milk, are there real reasons as to why pasteurized diary would be inferior compared to raw??

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Pasteurizing is basically cooking the milk, thus altering the protein structures. Same with homogenization, it changes the molecular structure of the milk. Raw milk is way better than pasteurized, but make sure you’ve got a good source, really easy to find here in Florida despite being “illegal”

because its full of sick bacteria, high in protein and saturated fats......if they made it illegal its because they dont want you to be big

>inb4 bacteria makes you sick
the bacteria in it doesnt make the cow sick, it wont make me sick either

Pasteurization kills all of the beneficial probiotic content.
If you have a chance to try raw grassfed cheese (and with the internet, anyone does) DO IT. It makes you feel amazing.

should I cook raw milk before drinking it?

the machines kill the vital chi energy found flowing within the milk, rendering the drink next to useless. namaste.

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There’s a raw goat milk stand in the farmers market here but it’s so damn expensive

of course it is, food that is good for you is always expensive

The only way to do it here is to get a cowsharing app. I'm not sure if I trust a crowdsourced farmer because people in my state are generally lazy.

It's ok if you prefer the taste and can tolerate it, but the supposed benefits are imaginary hippie mumbo jumbo with no scientific basis. Most people are probably better off drinking a relatively more sterile milk product.

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google bovine growth hormone you cuck

Not true at all. Science has proven that the gut is like a second brain, with a significant amount of control over mood. Probiotics can change your life.

Why is altering the protein structure per se bad?

Makes it much harder to digest as your body doesn't recognize it.

If anything denatured proteins are easier to digest

This is the actual argument in favor of raw milk, etc.

specify on the beneficial bacteria in raw milk and how they benefit the human gut.

source?

I hope this is bait. I'm saying that the supposed benefits to non-pasteurization are unrelated to the status of protein denaturation which happens in your stomach due to its low pH. All this is prior to digestion in the intestines.

No need to. Either you're open-minded enough to try it and find out or you're not. I have no reason to give a survival advantage to the close-minded, society always needs people who are satisfied with stocking shelves or picking up trash.

lel you're in a thread asking about the supposed benefits of raw milk

>implying i dont have tested raw milk.

I have drank alot of raw milk, it is quite the hustle for me to obtain, i have not seen any benefits compared to pasteurized, there is nothing except bro science that states that raw milk is superior, the arguments for raw milk are rather weak.

Cheese is superior.

The benefits supposedly lie in beneficial bacteria, but you have to be really careful because pasteurization was invented for a reason- lots of bad bacteria like listeria would love to grow in milk too.

no, as the whey is missing and it has very good protein structure, cheese is a refined product.
It is good, but milk is superior.

presumably enzymes or something
this alteration is called denaturing which happens from heat or acid, a protein is basically a molecular string folded up in a specific way and held like that by a few different chemical interactions, but your digestive system denatures and then breaks up proteins anyway (which is why basically all protein/peptide medicine can't be taken in pill form)

these are my findings aswell.
ray peat is god tier nutritional advice... broscientist or diary farmers looking for usp do not come close.

in theory its come straight from the animal and contains more nutrition

in practice most factory milk is filthy due to the conditions cows live in so i wouldnt go near the milk before pasteurization personally

this is a gay ass post dude

google bovine growth hormone

not from usa. not an issue where i live.
Why would cows growth hormone be terrible bad, while everyone wants as much hgh as he can get.
Stupid logic.

Doesn't matter what he says, he took steroids so he can eat and drink whatever the fuck he wants.

steroids usage in bodybuilding was disovered in the 60ies, this is when the golden era of bodybuilding died, the art of bodybuilding died and you do not know anything.
Gorinda was against roids because of roid gut, he clearly did not take steroids but had a diet consisting of 36 eggs a day which have quite the impact on your sexual hormones.

You dont know anything stop posting.

>drinking milk

>the bacteria in it doesnt make the cow sick, it wont make me sick either
>the bacteria in him doesn't make the conquistador sick, it wont make me suck either

only relevant in shitty states of cuckland
and growth hormones are peptides and thus destroyed into PROTEINS in the stomach, you absorb absolutely 0% of any growth hormone you ingest that's why insulin and GH is injected b y bodybuilders and not taken orally lmao
good thing pasteurized yogurts have probiotics, and the fact that milk even pas teurized UHT milk has probiotics
lactose is a probiotic too

>steroids usage in bodybuilding was disovered in the 60ies
oh my sweet summer child

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>good thing pasteurized yogurts have probiotics, and the fact that milk even pas teurized UHT milk has probiotics
>lactose is a probiotic too
Probiotics added in afterwards don't really compare. I take them all the time in pill form and raw cheese is better.

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in case you can read.
Give source for your statement.

>The history of anabolic steroids can be traced back to as early as 1930's
yes thanks for proving my point you absolute fucking retard.

selectively reading a source at it's finest

>Probiotics added in afterwards don't really compare.
how can you tell?
fiber is a probiotic, lactose is a probiotic
anything that isn't digested perfectly is a probiotic since it feeds your gut bacteria.

you should selectively suck my hard cock

I used to drink raw milk and it's no better in my opinion. They only heat it up to 160 or something for about 15 seconds, that's not gonna do a whole lot of damage, just don't buy the ultra pasteurized stuff. I also prefer low fat milk now because more protein per calorie, even if Vitamin A content may be lower, but I drink twice as much than before.

are you fucking retarded, do you think he got steroids when they are just disovered scientifically in the 1930 you utter moron.

You can tell by how you feel after consuming them.
The human body contains trillions of microorganisms, outnumbering humans cells by 10 to 1. Two or three different probiotic strains isn't going to cut it.
Nor is feeding existing gut bacteria always beneficial, what helps in most cases is introducing new bacteria, especially if you've taken antibiotics in the past or eat animals which are fed antibiotics (e.g. non-organic beef).

vonderplanitz is that you.

My grandfather did so yes

It doesn't. There's nothing wrong with "altering the protein structure". Digestion is going to rip apart any protein into the amino acids anyways.

Are you a fucking brainlet? You think your body can "recognize" or "not recognize" protein?