Buying meme powders/pills for collagen

>buying meme powders/pills for collagen
>not buying unflavored jello, mixing it with whey and making super protein mousse
Yikes

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>not taking 15g of glycine powder daily
get redpilled first and then talk about it. It's the best way to collagenmaxx

there sure is a lot of collagen shilling going on today

Right as I was looking for ways to fix my shit jointd

Post recipe. Also what are the macros in jello? Never had any

Could you elaborate?

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It's the holy grail for looksmaxxing
you should start taking it right now, doesn't matter how old you are. Your body doesn't make enough for your needs. It's cheap and easy to take

Look into MSM and magnesium glycinate too, great for muscles.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20093739
just take it

>not eating porn rinds
literally 65g collagen per 100g

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Cope you don't get enough, not 15 grams a day, fuck off.

by collagen I mean gelatin
gelatin has a PDCAAS of 0, wheat gluten shits on gelatin for both collagen and muscle protein synthesis, that should tell you how shit gelatin is.

or you could just have some milk with whey instead
>you don't get enough
maybe if you're 60+

You get 15 grams from your diet?

i dont see why gelatin would be bad despite your logic, there are plenty of studies that indicate benefits from glycine

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17624491
glycine lowers corticosterone
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27094036
glycine is anabolic
blogs.plos.org/neuro/2018/01/05/gaba-and-glycine-sometimes-are-interchangeable-by-jaime-de-juan-sanz/
glycine and GABA are interrelated
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18367344
glycine increases the neurosteroid allopregnanolone

glycine is an amino acid
guess what protein sourcs have glycine
oh that's right, all of them lmao
>glycine is anabolic
all amino acids are
leucine is the most anabolic one and all proteins have it

obviously all amino acids are anabolic dude. read the actual study:
>Relative rates of basal and leucine-stimulated protein synthesis were measured using SUnSET methodology 4 h after an injection of 1 mg/kg lipopolysaccharide (LPS). Whereas leucine failed to stimulate muscle protein synthesis in LPS-treated mice pretreated with l-alanine (isonitrogenous control), leucine robustly stimulated protein synthesis (+51%) in mice pretreated with 1 g/kg glycine. The improvement in leucine-stimulated protein synthesis was accompanied by a higher phosphorylation status of mTOR, S6, and 4E-BP1 compared with l-alanine-treated controls. Despite its known anti-inflammatory action in inflammatory cells, glycine did not alter the skeletal muscle inflammatory response to LPS in vivo or in vitro but markedly reduced DHE staining intensity, a marker of oxidative stress, in muscle cross-sections and attenuated LPS-induced wasting in C2C12 myotubes. Our observations in male C57BL/6 mice suggest that glycine may represent a promising nutritional intervention for the attenuation of skeletal muscle wasting.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7376793
glycine
Glycine stimulated growth hormone release in man.

>The influence of glycine, the simplest amino acid, on pituitary function has been investigated in the present study. Different doses (4, 8, or 12 g) of glycine were intravenously infused over 15 or 30 min in normal subjects. Serum levels of GH (growth hormone) and Prl (prolactin) were measured before and after the infusion, and also blood sugar levels were determined. The dose of 4 or 8 g glycine induced a significant increase in serum GH (P less than 0.05 or P less than 0.001, respectively); however, a more pronounced and significant increase in serum GH levels was observed after infusion at a dose of 12 g glycine (P less than 0.001). It was clearly observed that the dose-dependent GH release to intravenous glycine occurred in normal subjects. On the contrary, serum Prl level was not changed significantly, and blood sugar level was transiently, but significantly (P less than 0.05), increased after the infusion of 12 g glycine. The present data suggest that glycine might play an important role in the control of hypothalamic-pituitary function.

there is literature detailing investigation into glycine, its not as simple as 'dude all amino acids are good lmao'

So should I eat gelatin or not what fuck you god damn science fags.

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growth hormone is irrelevant, it goes higher if you're in a fasted state too, is that anabolic as well?
>rodent model using a fucking injection of a fucking inflammatory toxin
holy shit can you cherrypick ANY harder than this?

Glycine powder.

rodent model problematic? rodent models are the basis of most studies, what is the issue with rodent models that you claim to abolish the applicability of the study to humans? for that matter why does the injection of an inflammatory toxin invalidate the study? the exact premise of the study is that protein synthesis is impaired in suboptimal conditions (inflammation) and that glycine restores protein synthesis DESPITE the inflammation and that it does so better than another protein (l-alanine). i consider that to be a valuable result that shows the utility of glycine

your contention here seems to be rooted in the fact that you think we can synthesize the aminoacids we need given adequate protein sources
well most diets are deficient in cartilaginous meats so the glycine in diet is quite poor. but perhaps we can certainly synthesize enough glycine given enough OTHER aminoacids?

well:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20093739
>the metabolic capacity for glycine biosynthesis does not satisfy the need for collagen synthesis.
>In a previous paper, we pointed out that the capability to synthesize glycine from serine is constrained by the stoichiometry of the glycine hydroxymethyltransferase reaction, which limits the amount of glycine produced to be no more than equimolar with the amount of C 1 units produced. This constraint predicts a shortage of available glycine if there are no adequate compensating processes. Here, we test this prediction by comparing all reported fl uxes for the production and consumption of glycine in a human adult. Detailed assessment of all possible sources of glycine shows that synthesis from serine accounts for more than 85% of the total, and that the amount of glycine available from synthesis, about 3 g/day, together with that available from the diet, in the range 1.5-3.0 g/day, may fall significantly short of the amount needed for all metabolic uses, including collagen synthesis by about 10 g per day for a 70 kg human.

Maximum redpill

>the metabolic capacity for glycine biosynthesis does not satisfy the need for collagen synthesis.
nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000094000000000000000-2.html?

did you not just fucking read what I said about glycine being in EVERY protein source there is, all the way from vegetable, legumes, grains to meat and fish and eggs and dairy, there is absolutely no fucking reason to buy gelatin, our bodies are able to cope with 0 glycine in the diet very well by metabolizing specific amino acids into glycine at subpar rates but obviously that is not optimal, glycine is a semi essential amino acid based on that fact, but all proteins have glycine anyway so why does this even matter?
it doesn't, it doesn't matter, unless you are a gelatin/collagen pushing supplement shill that is.

im not a shill. im interested in it from a perspective of curiosty. i would prefer to receive all my aminoacids from natural sources. in fact though i have glycine powder but also i have some gelatinous cuts of meat in my freezer which i will simmer in a delicious stew. those are my last words. fun talking to you

>im not a shill. im interested in it from a perspective of curiosty.
here's a curious thing about glycine, breast milk has 0 glycine in it unlike cow milk
what does that tell you about our exogenous requirements for glycine?
> i would prefer to receive all my aminoacids from natural sources.
then eat just eat regular foods, all of them have glycine
>in fact though i have glycine powder but also i have some gelatinous cuts of meat in my freezer which i will simmer in a delicious stew
regular muscle meat has plenty of glycine, there is no need whatsoever to go to such lengths to get this one amino acid.

well you already know it now that worrying about this specific amino acid is a waste of time so there you go

>our bodies are able to cope with 0 glycine in the diet very well
enjoy your shit collagen levels nigger, clearly you don't give a shit about looksmaxxing. Fuck off, why are you in this thread?

You need 15g daily for maximum performance. You can't get that much from yourdiet alone. Collagen is great for your skin, you need all you can get especially as you get older.

lmao, another blind idiot
did you or did you not fucking read what I said af ter that segment?
>our bodies are able to cope with 0 glycine in the diet very well by metabolizing specific amino acids into glycine at subpar rates but obviously that is not optimal, glycine is a semi essential amino acid based on that fact, but all proteins have glycine anyway so why does this even matter?
got it, dumbass? shilling for your little shitty fad supplement is only outing yourself as a complete fucking idiot

It's for collagen, you need as much as you can get for godly skin.

>maximum performance
what the fuck does that even mean?
maximum performance? there is absolutely 0 fucking data on this 15g daily INTAKE of glycine number you just posted, 0, endogenous synthesis of glycine and exogenous intake of glycine in a regualr person on a normal diet is way more than enough to optimize health and longevity and gains.
> You can't get that much from your diet alone
only supplement shills say shit like this
MUSCLE meat(fish/red/chicken) on average has around 2 grams of glycine per 25g of protein lmao

lmao at "maximum performance" feel free to post what you mean exactly by this you fucking shill, you just outed yourself as a complete fucking idiot shilling for useless supplementation.

its for looksmaxxing.

>it's for collagen
whey, casein, beef, fish, onions, wheat proteins increase collagen synthesis

That's a lot of food for 15g, I'd rather mix 15g of glycine powder and down it.

>for 15g
a number that you actually pulled out of nowhere
also, endogenous production of glycineis constant

ITT: supplement shills BTFO

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Red pill me on collagen. Is it worth supplementing?
Whats the best way to boost it?

Glycine powder, 15g daily. Collagen is a non brainer, just take it if you want to skinmaxx.

I don't get why people run around everywhere spreading falsehoods and half truths, is it some variant of shitposting?

Cope.

Take the collagen pill.

Literally cheaper to buy glycine powder

Based glycine poster.

>Not taking 15 grams of emulsifiers every day

Bump

mix it with whey AFTER boiling it when its supposed to cool down
Sodium

>not just slow cooking a pork shank for hours on end at a low temp until the bones and carrlidge is soft as fuck then putting it on a fire to crisp the outside after salting it and eating it all

I miss home.

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Oh and you should also drink the water out of the slow cooker provided it isn't aluminium