Does anyone else think BJJ is just super gay?

Henry Cruz
Henry Cruz

does anyone else think BJJ is just super gay?

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Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

Ya that’s why I love it :)

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

no, you are unique

Thomas Evans
Thomas Evans

Yes, literally same thing as fedoras swinging katanas around. yikes

Levi Nelson
Levi Nelson

ITT: Latent homosexual projection

Isaiah Robinson
Isaiah Robinson

There's nothing gay about rolling around on the floor in the loving embrace of another man.

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

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Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

Not posting the 10 hour Jewtube link

Faggot.

Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

Lotta positions feel sexual, but you also get to learn how to 1v1 people IRL

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

decent looking female instructors would make millions, or would they.....

Asher Gray
Asher Gray

Meanwhile OP browses a board full of homoerotic men who post pics of half naked steroid junkies, rate each others dyel physiques autistically yet BJJ is super gay compared to this.

Bentley Lee
Bentley Lee

Calm down no one's judging your lifestyle choices.

Nolan Cook
Nolan Cook

Not even remotely as gay as turkish wrestling.

Levi Howard
Levi Howard

Might as well ask it here. I'm not sure whether to continue doing Muay Thai or start BJJ. I have ~6 months experience in MT but I'm apprehensive of training with new people due to a recent concussion in training. No experience in BJJ but it looks fun. It'll be an investment in time and money though.
I also hate the feeling of 'quitting' MT after only 6 months, but I'm nervous about further concussions.

Jordan Rivera
Jordan Rivera

Yeah but I'm pretty mediocre at it so I still do it

Ethan Stewart
Ethan Stewart

One thing that made me do grappling rather than striking is less injuries and you can go full-force in grappling without risk of injury (although of course accidents happen). I'm a working man so sporting injuries are an absolute no-go for me and grappling BJJ is great for me. I can get a great workout in with martial arts and wake up next morning with no injuries.
I can't imagine that with muay thai or striking, no way i'd continue if I got a concussion. Call me a pussy or whatever. Try it out man it is fun

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Either quit or change how you train. Concussions are no joke. They destroy your abstract thinking.

Lincoln Baker
Lincoln Baker

I'm a teacher, so concussions will fuck me up professionally as well. I think I'll try out BJJ, thanks. It just feels good being able to punch and kick properly, I'll miss that.

James Cook
James Cook

Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?

Everything is Muay Thai or BJJ these days. Its pretty rare to see a Tae Kwon Do or Karate gym anymore. Is Jeet Kun Do even a thing anymore?

Jace King
Jace King

I miss boxing too, but what can one do? I mean, if your reasoning's damaged then what else are you really left with?

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

Lots of McDojos/fake gyms nowadays that just push out belts/promotions instead of the skills. I think most proper asian martial arts gyms were ubiquitous maybe a decade ago and now they are fading out. One of my friends is a (red?) belt in tae kwon do and he even says the same thing. The same dojo where he used to train got re-bought out and new instructors don't even teach the same things that he was taught, and that's why he stopped going

Austin Baker
Austin Baker

For the most part they've ceded territory to the more effective MMA disciplines. Judo and Kyokushin are thriving though.
Also, the majority of dojos in the world turned out to be shitty worthless mcdojos.
I've seen some rare exceptions, like a place teaching absolutely vicious, very old-school Jiu-Jitsu or another teaching Jeet Kune Do but heavy on sparring and application.
But basically what happened was that your average college wrestler or golden gloves boxer turned out to absolutely rape that mcdojo kung fu sensei who can fly, in any real matchup.

Adam Cook
Adam Cook

It's because they're fucking shit and they don't work in the real world. Not saying it to be edgy, it's just the truth.

I know, I've done karate and aikido. I mean, they're better than doing nothing, but if you want to learn to fight, stick to boxing or BJJ or something that isn't a farce.

Brayden White
Brayden White

Oh yeah, forgot the "this move is secret and too dangerous to practice" aikido lmao.

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

Maybe I was just lucky when I did TKD in my teens.

To me though learning to kick someones knee out at range is probably the most effective on the street. All this meme mat wrestling that everyone does these days is pretty much useless outside of a UFC ring.

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

contact sports are gay yes, that's the whole point.

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

kick someones knee out at range is probably the most effective on the street
Can't argue with that. Wish I learnt a striking art when I was young.... *sip*

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

So just a quick note here, thais don't ever spar hard. If you hit a real Nak mauy in training too hard, he will stop and not spar you. It should be very light and playful. Fighting is for fightnight and anyone who spars too hard, eg concussions, is limiting their own growth and the entire gyms

Elijah Reed
Elijah Reed

It's not useless, but people who pretend that fights aren't usually over in a single standing strike or two haven't seen any real life fights

Oliver Nguyen
Oliver Nguyen

Asian martial arts suck including Muay Thai because Dutch kickboxing is clearly superior. Bjj sucks too but it sucks the least out of all of them. People who do BJJ are too comfortable in the bottom position which will get you knocked out in a fight. Muay Thai and BJJ are more popular because there are schools for that stuff in every town now. They're basically the closest you can get to doing a rough sports without actually doing it.
I did TDK(5 years),Karate(1),bjj(1 and still doing it),HS wrestling so I can 100% guarantee you that Asian martial arts suck. Stick to bjj and Muay Thai

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

Bjj typically has much more injuries, it's just that a lot of shit striking gyms wail on each other because things like boxing attract men with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove

Julian Martinez
Julian Martinez

This retard would get ko'd or subd in one round

Isaac Nguyen
Isaac Nguyen

t. retard
Yeah I guess if you fight someone on the street that stuff might work because you could just kick him in the face and the guy who works at funeral parlor will come and separate you. The guy will have a busted lip and it ends there. Someone that trained in wrestling and boxing won't go down as easily and will probably put you on your ass regardless if its a UFC ring or not.

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

t. did skinny nerd who did Muay Thai/karate/judo and thinks he could be an MMA fighter

Christopher Adams
Christopher Adams

Doesn't know about the oil check...
Nor about:
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Andrew Lewis
Andrew Lewis

That's exactly what they want you to think. Learn BJJ or wrestling so you DON'T get oil checked you dumbo.

Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

Someone thats actually trained in fighting probably won't fight on the street.

It's just the plebs that can't fight or kids that have done Muay Thai for a few weeks and think they are hot shit. Any experience with any martial art could have an advantage over them

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

Not me
You
You sound like you're living in the closet.
Bjj is way safer. You'll get bruise, broken limbs, torn ligament, hyper streched muscles, but no concussions as heavy as in MT.
Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
The got Xu Xiaodong'ed, litterally.
fights ending in single strike or two.
You meant knife stab, isn'it?

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Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Just do sambo (if you can find it)

Leo Barnes
Leo Barnes

mt, judo is a decent base for mma Mr. hs wressler and 1 stripe white belt

Nathan Scott
Nathan Scott

Being around women.
Honestly a total fucking meme. Why would you spend time around those leeches when you could surround yourself with men that wanna get shit done. Just a couple of lads just dipped into a bathtub full of vaseline, and grappling up on eachother.

Honestly women are fucking gay to begin with. They like DICK and GIRLY SHIT. Butch Lesbians are the ultimate straight mans choice 100%.

Brody Ward
Brody Ward

i treat it as cardio, doing it twice a week. its pretty fun desu

Jeremiah Campbell
Jeremiah Campbell

People who do BJJ are too comfortable in the bottom position which will get you knocked out in a fight.
Only if you're shit. You can't judge a martial art based on how literal beginners or chubby black belts who only got there because they paid the monthly fee for ten years do.

Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright

t. pulls guard after a wrestler takes him down

John Anderson
John Anderson

That doesn't make any sense.

Julian Sullivan
Julian Sullivan

grappling is ga-

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Ethan Bell
Ethan Bell

Xu Xiaodong
A shame what happened to him. He is now a poster child for the new social credit system in China, being banned from high speed rail. Shit like that is why I refuse to buy anything made in China. Difficult but can be done with the exception of computer parts.

Adam Barnes
Adam Barnes

Nah, i think its pretty cool. I love when people act tough, then i choke them or put them in kimura or armbar, and they start calling me a pussy lol.

Wyatt Mitchell
Wyatt Mitchell

martial art gets popular
martial art becomes sport
sport develops ruleset
school teaches art tailored to sport ruleset because there's more money in competition than self defense
art gradually becomes less effective over time

Tae Kwon Do was fucking brutally effective, but it got turned into a sport with rigid rules. Now you put sport Tae Kwon Do against BJJ and watch it get rekt and everyone begins to think it's a fake or useless art, it gets abandoned over time, schools close down. It sucks.

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Pulling guard
After a takedown
I don't even think you wrestled in highschool

Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

why are you mad? nobody cares that you're homosexual for rating stranger's physiques

Easton Price
Easton Price

Only bugmen could ever think that.

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

Maybe I was lucky to do TKD
No if you were actually lucky you'd do wrestling in HS.

Logan Adams
Logan Adams

Funny thing is that TKD and BJJ together are super effective, just look at Ryan Hall's fight from last night. Self-defence is kind of important, but in reality anyone who trains to fight is far more likely to find himself in a single combat match, rather than a street defence situation. I train for sport because some dumb, drunk shit on the street is less of a threat than someone who might kick my head off in a ring or cage. The majority of serious fights are planned in advance, not random skirmishes outside of bars or in alleyways.

It annoys me that everyone thinks self-defence is the root of all martial arts. Training for a situation that may never happen, and that you can probably come out of fine even with no actual self-defence training, versus a situation that will definitely happen because you've signed up for it in the first place. The training I've done has resulted in countless injuries and a few head traumas; obviously I don't do it for self-preservation.

Carson Perry
Carson Perry

I think 'self defense' is just a blanket term for fighting with minimal rules.

Adam Wood
Adam Wood

Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
Asian martial arts?
Muay Thai is from Thailand
BJJ came from Judo that's from Japan

Bentley Gutierrez
Bentley Gutierrez

BJJ came from Judo
Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from Judo?

Jackson Rogers
Jackson Rogers

Unironically MMA

as the skill level rises, people tune in more to what (ACTUALLY) works, and what doesn't. Not to say asian martial arts aren't effective, but it's clear wrestling, BJJ, boxing, kick boxing, and muy thai are the clear stand outs in the sport.

Ian Long
Ian Long

youtu.be/JibDGgJz0nI?t=290

literally spreads her legs for him to straddle her

Yeah how the fuck am I not supposed to get hard? Are virgins just not allowed to do BJJ.

Never used a cup, do they have non-obtrusive ones?

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Carter Ramirez
Carter Ramirez

If you think that something other than two people of the same sex loving or having some form of intercourse with each other is gay, you’re probably closeted.

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Juan Baker
Juan Baker

Yes, the founder of BJJ studied at kodokan and the only things that BJJ had that pre-2008 judo didn't were kneelocks.
Main reason BJJ was made was cause he couldn't afford kodokan teaching fees cause Brazil, so he made his own sport with the same techniques.

Bentley Martin
Bentley Martin

Yea, a while back I saw a documentary that talked of this, some judo jap dude trained some Brazilians and with time they modified it to BJJ.

Adam Johnson
Adam Johnson

It's only gay if you mantain eye contact.

t. BJJer

Blake Nelson
Blake Nelson

leglocks were banned from judo in the 30's. Ist touching the leg to throw aka leg grab that got banned in 2008 by IJF.
you gon'get tapp'd so many times a night that you won't even get hard.
yes.
Two or three main branches. Maeda for the Gracie, despite them been student of his best student only, Geo Omori for the others.
Both Maeda and Omori disliked the direction the Kodokan was giving to Judo by the time.

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Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

Yeah, that's why judo is so widely practiced and you see a flawless transition between judo and bjj players in tournaments
Oh wait

Carson Lewis
Carson Lewis

I think fundamentally sex and violence exist within the same domain of action.

sex is merely the act of penetration for the intent of sexual satisfaction.

therefore BJJ gives you the skill set in which you obtain the ability to control someone, such that you can decide to injure/kill them (by breaking a limb, choking them unconscious, or simply beginning to hit them), or fuck them (by penetrating them)

therefore BJJ really gives you the choice of whether you wanna be gay or not

I have had fat boners while rolling with hot girls

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Josiah Nguyen
Josiah Nguyen

what do BlowJobJutsu players here think of 10th planet JJ? is it as effective as "regular" BJJ? or a joke

Sebastian Parker
Sebastian Parker

There isn't a massive amount of crosstraining between BJJ and judo
I'm sorry you're retarded

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

Widely practiced
The main reason BJJ is widely practiced is due to very good marketing by the Gracie's, not due to it being magically superior to other grappling arts such as wrestling, judo or sambo

Justin Foster
Justin Foster

wrestling, judo or sambo
Why did BJJ take UFC/MMA by storm and not the above?

Cameron Turner
Cameron Turner

Come at me down here and say that bro

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Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Because the early UFC often avoided bring in serious wrestlers from outside. Hulk Hogan attempted to challenge the gracies, but wasn't allowed when they found out about his catch wrestling experience. In fact if you look at the UFC in its current state you'll find wrestlers and samboists tend to be dominating the field.

Jackson Long
Jackson Long

The emotion you're feeling is sensuality due to skin to skin contact and awkward positions. Sensuality is essential in sexual contact and thus your mind is wandering into the gutter.

It's only gay if you get aroused and want to engage in sexual activity.

Solution: If you find yourself confused on your sexuality you may need to explore it more and probe for your limits, no pun intended.

Beyond that you can let the fear of being gay consume your life and lead you towards rage against homosexuality resulting from projection.

PS: Homosexuals can be alright; faggots who need to wave their dick around or wear revealing clothing to make everyone else uncomfortable is the problem. Also faggots who try to force LGBT onto kids and the uninterested.

Christian Jones
Christian Jones

Beside JJB what's an effective "wresting (don't know if there's another engish word for that)" discipline?
Something common please, don't want to pay 200 bucks per months for some obscure martial arts.

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

wrestling, bjj, sambo, and kinda judo

it's called grappling bro

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

What is ken shamrock?

I remember a judo guy in early ufc, maybe ufc4ish. He was really defensive survived a 3-4 minute clinch before he started getting hit in the head and lost.
Maybe if he had a few months of striking training it would have helped.

Lucas Watson
Lucas Watson

This.

I watched Shamrock vs Gracie last night. Jesus it was fucking boring I wish there was more proper wrestlers in MMA. Even now.

Colton Morgan
Colton Morgan

Like when the least talented Gracie aka Royce choked out a much bigger Dan Severn? GTFO here. Rickson choked out an Olympic medalist numerous times, it's on video

Nicholas Adams
Nicholas Adams

Are you fucking retarded?
Hulk Hogan
He got bent over by a Machado purple belt half his weight.
In fact if you look at the UFC in its current state you'll find wrestlers and samboists tend to be dominating the field.
Implying modern UFC, with time limits and no stomps, soccer kick or knees to a downed opponent is relevant.
To have you understand, watch Hall-Elkins and then this:

youtube.com/watch?v=3l8jABw4sR8.
and this:
youtube.com/watch?v=3l8jABw4sR8

How many times Elkins backed off from a dominant position without the public saying a damn'd thing. Hall flees 3 times in a round and they're all booing him...

Another main difference is headbutts as you can see in the link just there.

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Landon Wright
Landon Wright

Brazilian here. What's different about Brazilian jiu-jitsu from standard jiu-jitsu? We just call it jiu-jitsu here.

Austin Carter
Austin Carter

I wish there was more proper wrestlers in MMA
You got the memory of a clown fish.

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

Being able to kill 90% of people on earth with bare hands is gay
You like to suck dick yourself, dont you?

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

Only Chinese martial arts suck. Judo, taekwondo, kyoukushin karate and muay thai are all good bases for MMA.

Juan Moore
Juan Moore

BJJ is a fun physical activity that's not going to fuck up my joints too too bad.

Besides there is progression and getting belts feels great.
inb4 belts are childish
So are job promotions then.

Compared to judo or wrestling BJJ is far more chill and less explosive meaning i'll be able to train it for decades to come.

There is a strong competitive scene in every main city and competition is very important for males.

Only problem is it costs a lot

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

inb4 belts are childish
Belt are childish, less than stripe, but childish as fuck.

David Hernandez
David Hernandez

So are job promotions then

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Xavier Lee
Xavier Lee

re-read that post, you clearly misunderstood what was being said
not due to it being magically superior to other grappling arts such as wrestling, judo or sambo
No, it's due to its widespread use in MMA. In MMA, jiu jitsu can be used without prior wrestling experience and is absolutely necessary for survival. If you have good striking and jiu jitsu, you can do well in MMA. If you lack jiu jitsu, you will not survive. That cannot be said of wrestling, judo, or sambo, despite all of them being useful.
This also misses what I was saying, which is that BJJ and judo, while sharing a large number of techniques, are not the same art, and that BJJ cannot be said to just be a poor man's half-baked version of judo. They are different arts with different emphases despite common history and roots.

David Phillips
David Phillips

It's the same stuff, but focused completely on no-gi. In that way, I think it's more effective and more applicable, as you're never going to fight someone wearing a gi anywhere except a BJJ school.

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

Japanese jiu jitsu is much more traditional and regimented. They have things resembling katas, some inclusion of strikes, and ritualistic stuff like making noise when you do certain moves, bowing a specific way, that kind of shit.
BJJ is what you see in MMA. Nearly every jiu jitsu school in the US (and I'm guessing Brazil as well) is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

We wear jackets 8/12 months in a year in Canada. I am far more likely to fight someone wearing a jacket than not

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

But Matt Hughes and Khabib don't. Also Josh Barnett was pretty much given a black belt after training for a year, same with lots of other MMA fighters. It's not uncommon for BJJ federations to give blackbelts out to people who beat them. Hell pretty sure joe rogans argued that some people should get one

Brody Wright
Brody Wright

Hugues and Barnett are the exceptions though.
Khabib is a world class sambist raised by a world class sambist and wrestlers that decided from day one his son would be a fighter or he would kill him himself.

Andrew Brooks
Andrew Brooks

You're supposed to be in a combat state of mind in the gym.

Isaiah Ross
Isaiah Ross

they no mastered the gwuatch becuz they big and strong. helio gracie was 120 pounths and sickly he fightch againsht 300 pount monstars, he inventad leverache to defeatch bigger oponents.

Ayden Foster
Ayden Foster

Yeah I did retard
I take you down
you pull guard like a retard because one of the Noguiera brothers told you how to armbar from guard

Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson

How effective is Hapkido as a martial art?
Would it work in a fight or is it more of a McDojo meme art?

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

Bro its pretty simple:
If its from Asia don't do it because chances are its a McDojo martial art. If you've got no other option doing them is better than nothing but if I had to pick between sambo,wrestling,dutch kickboxing,bjj and on the other side of the street I had hapkido,judo,tkd,karate I'd pick the western ones. If the Asian ones were the only ones around the training you get there is better than nothing at all but if you see clear better alternatives don't waste your money

John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

Implying any pro martial artist hasn't been trained since childhood
Also you said jii jitsu was a necessity in MMA. It isnt. It's a very helpful skill to have, but it's not a necessity

Blake Jones
Blake Jones

Sambo
Western
BJJ
Western
Shoo shoo

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

Russia
Brazil

Jonathan Peterson
Jonathan Peterson

I did until I tried it. Once I started getting murdered by guys who didn’t even lift (my lifts were 475/295/545) I realized there’s something to it. Now I’m not a goof who thinks pulling guard in a street fight is wise, but I know developing your wrestling in NoGi gives you an edge in a street fight

Jordan Cooper
Jordan Cooper

Russia
Western
Brazilian JUI JITSU
Western
Nah

Chase Butler
Chase Butler

Both of them are just modified forms of judo.

Dominic Sanders
Dominic Sanders

Rolling with girls is dope when they’re feeling you, I’ve had just sit there push in my face. but if it’s just a guy/girl roll it’s usually pretty normal.

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

Brazil is literally West of any country in western Europe
Russia is western when you compare it to Korea
Yeah but which one of them had better success in a competitive field

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

first of all, I'm not the guy who said bjj was necessary. Bjj, sambo, judo and cacc differ mainly in the rule sets.
A double wristlock (wrestling/cacc) is a kimura (bjj) which is ude garami (judo) and so on...

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

Both of them are just modified forms of judo.

and judo is a modified version of jacketed wrestling

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Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

If you lack jiu jitsu, you will not survive.
Ok if you ain't that guy I don't disagree with you.

Austin Thomas
Austin Thomas

This is the most level headed and accurate response I have ever seen on this board. Good job man, you’re not a true dummy.

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

Greco-Roman wrestling is just No-Gi Judo.

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

Russia is West compared to Korea
Egypt is more Western than Japan, that doesn't make Egypt Western or even close to western

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

Russia is western except for maybe siberia.

Jackson Lee
Jackson Lee

Well yeah, minus leg sweeps

Evan Clark
Evan Clark

Mut thai is an Asian natural art, isn't it?

John Hughes
John Hughes

Russia has never been considered Western ever though, either by its own people or outsiders. Hell Peter the great was known to introduce the "Western style of dress" as well as military techniques from Western nation's. Russia's always been more of a mongol/mongrol nation than a pure Western one

Logan Baker
Logan Baker

t. faglo saxon

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

Greco was there when Japan still hadn't seen the black ships.... Oh wait, I see what you did there. It's a shame for Judo though, but we get some more ne-waza time since bjj growth started to threaten IJF.

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Benjamin Russell
Benjamin Russell

T. Newfag who doesn't know how to green text
Go away u stupid bong

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

Go away faglo. We've heard you bullshit here before. Everyone who's anglo is western and all Southern and Eastern Europeans aren't white. You're not the first or last faglo to spew your bullshit here

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

There is nothing gay about fighting. Yiu are the gay one for thinking that

Jaxson Cruz
Jaxson Cruz

Western = white
If we're running on that logic than BJJ is 100% not Western. And anyway Poland/Finland is the most eastern West nation anyways and Italians do count as white. Bit iffy on modern day Greeks though

Cameron Perez
Cameron Perez

Gi or no-gi bros?
Is bjj no-gi the same thing as wrestling?

Easton Davis
Easton Davis

WRONG. A FEW moves in Tae Know Do are useful in real fighting. 95% of it is woo woo shit. It's been proven in the octagon. Deal with it. Karate is hte same way. BJJ is effective in any type of street fight. But including other things is never bad. So throws, kicks, punches etc. But there are certain fighting styles that are proven to work IRL and not in a gym larping.

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

no-gi isn't the same as wrestling. Its the same as bjj with gi but with no gi. Its just more like wrestling in a way that you're able to move for freely but so is your opponent

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

This is very true. Most of their kicks are just useless. I learned 2 kicks(roundhouse and sidekick) and perfect both of them. I was able to beat up everyone who I competed against. My masters always tried to teach me all the spinning bullshit but I always half assed them and never got good with them.
Karate was the worst experience of my life. Went there for a year and legit had 1 sparring session the whole time.

Cooper Stewart
Cooper Stewart

Don't you know that there is more to guard than closed guard... Are you gracie humaita or another gracie cult member or what?

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Hunter Wright
Hunter Wright

Doesn't matter what kind of guard you pull. You'll still make that decision when your ass is on the concrete floor

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

Doesn't matter what kind of guard you pull.
White belt 3 stripes spotted.
You can't go for a DLR the same way you go for a closed guard.

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Robert Cook
Robert Cook

no like woman they are sexually secure which is why they check each other out touch each others boobs straight dudes are the same they are so not gay they will roll around on the floor asserting dominance in a fighting discipline or touch each others dicks in changing or share a fleshlight with the bro now i swing both ways but i only like asian ladyboys so i am semi gay

Blake Young
Blake Young

Khabib
Hes is top grappler and NAGA champion

Jacob Miller
Jacob Miller

Contact sports only seem gay to sheltered gymcels who are categorically uncomfortable with physical contact with other human beings.

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Carson Jackson
Carson Jackson

no kuzushi
no leg sweeps
no chokes and locks
IT'S JUST GRECO ROMAN WRASSLIN XDDDD

Chase Lopez
Chase Lopez

because one of the Noguiera brothers told you how to armbar from guard
lol what is this 2008?

Jeremiah Lopez
Jeremiah Lopez

Yeah but he's not a BJJ dude

Tyler Hill
Tyler Hill

Homosexuals should be banned from all contact sports for the safety of participants

Robert Morgan
Robert Morgan

kicks
Ok I’ll take out a gun and shoot you in self defense then

Alexander Morris
Alexander Morris

what gi do you guys recommend? I have one from my gym but the laundry is a hassle as I'm training every day, so I need to get a few more. Ideally i'd like something lightweight

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Jayden Reyes
Jayden Reyes

grappling was influenced by bjj, lot of people may say grappling = no gi bjj

Jason Taylor
Jason Taylor

khabib has a background in wrestling, sambo and judo. He does not have much of a formal BJJ background, though i think he recently started training it.

Ayden Harris
Ayden Harris

That's the general vibe I get from a lot of gymcel nerds herr. They grew up playing video games while their local Chad was playing baseball,football or rugby. The Chad got laid more so the Timothys started lifting hoping that they can get some of Chad's leftovers. When they get asked why they don't play the answer is always that it's gay/for children/they're too good for it

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

It has potential, but it suffers from the common problem of assuming your opponent is going to be docile enough to allow you to do all these limb contortion movements while standing upright, which is when both you and him/her are much more mobile. I trained Chon-Tu Kwon Hapkido for six years under GM Pellegrini's system (ICHF) and although I like knowing how to do various joint locks and throws, I feel like there's very little that you couldn't get from a more competent system like Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Wrestling, etc.

Hapkido also has no ground mechanics (or at least, none that I had trained in), and pitiful striking mechanics.

Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson

Grappling was not influenced by bjj, BJJ was influenced by previous grappling. And no people don't say grappling = no gi bjj, since BJJ has gi and nogi. What are you on my dude?

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

sex is merely the act of penetration for the intent of sexual satisfaction.
nice bullshit faggot.
sex is for the purpose of procreation. there isn't a single natural act that exists for the purpose of pleasure. pleasure is simply a way of motivating your ape brain into chasing what is good, and what is good is what allows you and your genes to thrive.

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

Grappling encompasses any and all martial arts that relies on prolonged, seized contact with an opponent. This includes BJJ, Judo, Sambo, and wrestling. When someone refers to grappling, they are including any and all of these martial arts, as well as certain aspects of other arts (the clinch in Muay Thai for example). Each form of grappling focuses on different aspects.
Anyone who competes at the top level of MMA will need some techniques from all of these disciplines. Khabib may not have much official training in jiu jitsu, but he has time and time again demonstrated great proficiency and knowledge of submission techniques that are mostly thought of as jiu jitsu techniques. The problem is that grappling arts have seen such high levels of cross-pollination, that no technique can ever truly be said to be a pure technique of one art form or another.

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

cringe

Elijah Russell
Elijah Russell

Kill yourself, retard. Keep LARPing in these threads and spreading your armchair martial arts knowledge

Adrian Walker
Adrian Walker

Pretty accurate, really. Between 17 and 27 I did a pretty big "zero to hero" kinda thing, and playing rugby through college was a way bigger factor than any of the exercise. The idea that literally just lifting and getting bigger is comparable (in terms of personal growth) to sharing a physical struggle with a team of other men is downright laughable. You just can't build the same character and social/leadership skills in the gym.

Jordan Price
Jordan Price

That's what I figured. I did Hapkido for like a year as a kid. We learned some kicks that were ok but some throws which looked cool but the person being thrown would have to go with it and it would never work if the person resisted at all (for example, grabbing a person's wrist and twisting their hand so that they'd flip onto the ground). We were taught punches but only from a upright square stance. Nothing from the ground. No sparring ever.

I wrestled later for a few years and realized how much of a meme Hapkido is. I'm considering starting BJJ soon.

Wyatt Campbell
Wyatt Campbell

good post. I would add that, as with all martial arts, there are only so many ways to hurt someone, so a lot of these arts end up independently inventing the same technique. Every grappling art will have some sort of choke, some sort of joint lock, etc.

Levi Parker
Levi Parker

implying Jow Forums isn't too brainlet to understand that elite competition is won through specific techniques and principles as opposed to whole schools in this day and age

Jayden Cook
Jayden Cook

(for example, grabbing a person's wrist and twisting their hand so that they'd flip onto the ground)
i did aikido for a little over a year when i was a kid and they told us that these aren't actually throws, they're meant to be like wrist locks and the "uke" (compliant partner) is rolling out of them so as to avoid the lock. Aikido is absolute unrepentant dog shit and if anyone in this thread is considering it: don't.

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

no gi
spandex only
final destination

Julian Jenkins
Julian Jenkins

I'm trying to create the bases for the most hipster MMA fighter possible in my head

Striking: Lethwei or Savate
Wrestling: Turkish Oil Wrestling
Submission Grappling: Catch
Strength: Strongman exercises
Cardio: Burpees and Mountain biking

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Julian James
Julian James

my gym only does no gi once a week, which is annoying because I want to get as much varied training as I can. On the topic though, can you recommend any good rash guards?

Cooper Hill
Cooper Hill

the striking should be sanshou/sanda

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

You would be the most powerful douchebag who ever walked the Earth. You should do it.

Christopher Ross
Christopher Ross

This user is right in saying that the roll your partner does is generally to avoid injury, but lots of McDojos can and do pass it off as being the overall goal of the wristlock itself. Being put in that kind of lock can really hurt, don't get me wrong, but when it's being taught and demonstrated these are done with willing participants. They already know that if they stand there and do nothing while the demonstrator continues to apply the lock that they will likely get injured a little bit or severely. They go down because they know it's what they're supposed to do.

Small joint manipulation simply relies too heavily on too great a number of conditions to be met in order to achieve a subpar and unreliable lock. Some locks are viable like various shoulder and neck holds that you see police use to control somebody, but there's so much extra bullshit that comes along with Hapkido that it just simply isn't worth it.

One thing that was worthwhile about it, however, where the gun/knife/club disarms we got to learn during my time there. But even those are pretty unreliable given how chaotic and nerve-wracking a real encounter is

Jason Ortiz
Jason Ortiz

Why are Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu two different arts? Is there literally any reason not to train in both if possible? Why aren't they just taught together?

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Benjamin Hughes
Benjamin Hughes

One does standup, the other focuses on groundwork. There is little to no reason beyond time constraints to not do both. Different rulesets make it seem a bit awkward to teach together

Luke Reed
Luke Reed

BJJ is the most worthless Martial arts in the streets lmao. Especially if theres more than one one person involved, if you find yourself in the ground you're fucked, no amount of muh grappling is gonna save you from getting your head stomped by the other guys bro.

Landon Price
Landon Price

this. plus slamming yourself down on concrete is a terrible idea

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

Tony Ferguson, the UFC lightweight champ contender, does Jeet Kun Do

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

And no people don't say grappling = no gi bjj, since BJJ has gi and nogi.
Yes, they say. I have a friend freestyle wrestler CMS who competed in grappling and bjj and who says grappling = no gi bjj.

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

Because of rules

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

My school is strictly nogi, so Ive never trained in the gi, its a ton of fun though and I really enjoy it.

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

gay until you get choked to death with your own arm

Kevin Brooks
Kevin Brooks

you can go full-force in grappling without risk of injury
Lel, try clinch and stand up grappling with submissions sometimes, fag.

Asher Price
Asher Price

Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
MMA came in the 90s, the Gracies beat up some dudes with self-made karate styles and suddenly, it was common knowledge, that "Asian martial arts don't work" because they "don't spar" and "don't lift".

Did it matter that boxers or MT guys don't lift either? And Muay Thai guys don't really spar except slap boxing? Actually, Nigel Benn and Calzaghe didn't spar either and it didn't hurt them.

No, it didn't matter at all. People were and are stupid. MMA was the new norm. Society was so removed from real violence that "MMA = TEH STREET" was (and is) unironically what middle-class people believe. And also, the whole UFC and MMA thing was anhuge, huge marketing thing. It was the first brand to use online guerrilla marketing and boy, did it take off. Even today, the debunked memes form the 90s still exist: You NEED lifting, sparring, etc, 80% of fights go to the ground, etc.

It's all just meme'ing. But people are stupid.

Robert Collins
Robert Collins

post more 90's fight memes

Hunter Ward
Hunter Ward

focused completely on no-gi
and also getting super high

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Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

whatever man. those chechens do nogi submission wrestling, which is BJJ nogi, pretty much. Unless your concept of BJJ is gi only

Jayden Butler
Jayden Butler

that dude put all his points into Melee (Sword Specialization) and none into swimming. RIP

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

Anything where being the bottom guy means winning is gay

Jordan Morales
Jordan Morales

Burpees are at the core of conditioning for combat sports.

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

No gi submission wrestling is BJJ
Does the idea of rulesets and how they can affect a sport not enter your mind at all, or are you just a retard who thinks if two sports have some of the same techniques they are the same sport?

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

BJJ and grappling have similar rules

Daniel Gomez
Daniel Gomez

What if I roll with a girl?

Angel Morales
Angel Morales

It looks gay as fuck.

Michael Phillips
Michael Phillips

You keep saying grappling as if grappling is a sport. I mostly think you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

Rolling with a girl is pretty hot desu. Just came from BJJ training today, the girl I rolled with kept shoving my face into her boobs (closed guard). Kept pretending to fight back and she'd just hold my head there even tighter. She's my favorite training partner now

Nathaniel Bailey
Nathaniel Bailey

yes only faggots do bjj

Cameron Howard
Cameron Howard

alright whose got the turkish circle dance meme

Levi James
Levi James

combat sport makes you think about gay sex
user...

Chase Price
Chase Price

And anyway Poland/Finland is the most eastern West nation anyways and Italians do count as white.

No, only the British and Nordics are white, Irish not included

Leo Howard
Leo Howard

youtu.be/11IO-mo8t74
29:42
mfw

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