does anyone else think BJJ is just super gay?
Does anyone else think BJJ is just super gay?
Ya that’s why I love it :)
no, you are unique
Yes, literally same thing as fedoras swinging katanas around. yikes
ITT: Latent homosexual projection
There's nothing gay about rolling around on the floor in the loving embrace of another man.
Not posting the 10 hour Jewtube link
Lotta positions feel sexual, but you also get to learn how to 1v1 people IRL
decent looking female instructors would make millions, or would they.....
Meanwhile OP browses a board full of homoerotic men who post pics of half naked steroid junkies, rate each others dyel physiques autistically yet BJJ is super gay compared to this.
Calm down no one's judging your lifestyle choices.
Not even remotely as gay as turkish wrestling.
Might as well ask it here. I'm not sure whether to continue doing Muay Thai or start BJJ. I have ~6 months experience in MT but I'm apprehensive of training with new people due to a recent concussion in training. No experience in BJJ but it looks fun. It'll be an investment in time and money though.
I also hate the feeling of 'quitting' MT after only 6 months, but I'm nervous about further concussions.
Yeah but I'm pretty mediocre at it so I still do it
One thing that made me do grappling rather than striking is less injuries and you can go full-force in grappling without risk of injury (although of course accidents happen). I'm a working man so sporting injuries are an absolute no-go for me and grappling BJJ is great for me. I can get a great workout in with martial arts and wake up next morning with no injuries.
I can't imagine that with muay thai or striking, no way i'd continue if I got a concussion. Call me a pussy or whatever. Try it out man it is fun
Either quit or change how you train. Concussions are no joke. They destroy your abstract thinking.
I'm a teacher, so concussions will fuck me up professionally as well. I think I'll try out BJJ, thanks. It just feels good being able to punch and kick properly, I'll miss that.
Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
Everything is Muay Thai or BJJ these days. Its pretty rare to see a Tae Kwon Do or Karate gym anymore. Is Jeet Kun Do even a thing anymore?
I miss boxing too, but what can one do? I mean, if your reasoning's damaged then what else are you really left with?
Lots of McDojos/fake gyms nowadays that just push out belts/promotions instead of the skills. I think most proper asian martial arts gyms were ubiquitous maybe a decade ago and now they are fading out. One of my friends is a (red?) belt in tae kwon do and he even says the same thing. The same dojo where he used to train got re-bought out and new instructors don't even teach the same things that he was taught, and that's why he stopped going
For the most part they've ceded territory to the more effective MMA disciplines. Judo and Kyokushin are thriving though.
Also, the majority of dojos in the world turned out to be shitty worthless mcdojos.
I've seen some rare exceptions, like a place teaching absolutely vicious, very old-school Jiu-Jitsu or another teaching Jeet Kune Do but heavy on sparring and application.
But basically what happened was that your average college wrestler or golden gloves boxer turned out to absolutely rape that mcdojo kung fu sensei who can fly, in any real matchup.
It's because they're fucking shit and they don't work in the real world. Not saying it to be edgy, it's just the truth.
I know, I've done karate and aikido. I mean, they're better than doing nothing, but if you want to learn to fight, stick to boxing or BJJ or something that isn't a farce.
Oh yeah, forgot the "this move is secret and too dangerous to practice" aikido lmao.
Maybe I was just lucky when I did TKD in my teens.
To me though learning to kick someones knee out at range is probably the most effective on the street. All this meme mat wrestling that everyone does these days is pretty much useless outside of a UFC ring.
contact sports are gay yes, that's the whole point.
kick someones knee out at range is probably the most effective on the street
Can't argue with that. Wish I learnt a striking art when I was young.... *sip*
So just a quick note here, thais don't ever spar hard. If you hit a real Nak mauy in training too hard, he will stop and not spar you. It should be very light and playful. Fighting is for fightnight and anyone who spars too hard, eg concussions, is limiting their own growth and the entire gyms
It's not useless, but people who pretend that fights aren't usually over in a single standing strike or two haven't seen any real life fights
Asian martial arts suck including Muay Thai because Dutch kickboxing is clearly superior. Bjj sucks too but it sucks the least out of all of them. People who do BJJ are too comfortable in the bottom position which will get you knocked out in a fight. Muay Thai and BJJ are more popular because there are schools for that stuff in every town now. They're basically the closest you can get to doing a rough sports without actually doing it.
I did TDK(5 years),Karate(1),bjj(1 and still doing it),HS wrestling so I can 100% guarantee you that Asian martial arts suck. Stick to bjj and Muay Thai
Bjj typically has much more injuries, it's just that a lot of shit striking gyms wail on each other because things like boxing attract men with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove
This retard would get ko'd or subd in one round
Yeah I guess if you fight someone on the street that stuff might work because you could just kick him in the face and the guy who works at funeral parlor will come and separate you. The guy will have a busted lip and it ends there. Someone that trained in wrestling and boxing won't go down as easily and will probably put you on your ass regardless if its a UFC ring or not.
t. did skinny nerd who did Muay Thai/karate/judo and thinks he could be an MMA fighter
Doesn't know about the oil check...
That's exactly what they want you to think. Learn BJJ or wrestling so you DON'T get oil checked you dumbo.
Someone thats actually trained in fighting probably won't fight on the street.
It's just the plebs that can't fight or kids that have done Muay Thai for a few weeks and think they are hot shit. Any experience with any martial art could have an advantage over them
You sound like you're living in the closet.
Bjj is way safer. You'll get bruise, broken limbs, torn ligament, hyper streched muscles, but no concussions as heavy as in MT.
Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
The got Xu Xiaodong'ed, litterally.
fights ending in single strike or two.
You meant knife stab, isn'it?
Just do sambo (if you can find it)
mt, judo is a decent base for mma Mr. hs wressler and 1 stripe white belt
Being around women.
Honestly a total fucking meme. Why would you spend time around those leeches when you could surround yourself with men that wanna get shit done. Just a couple of lads just dipped into a bathtub full of vaseline, and grappling up on eachother.
Honestly women are fucking gay to begin with. They like DICK and GIRLY SHIT. Butch Lesbians are the ultimate straight mans choice 100%.
i treat it as cardio, doing it twice a week. its pretty fun desu
People who do BJJ are too comfortable in the bottom position which will get you knocked out in a fight.
Only if you're shit. You can't judge a martial art based on how literal beginners or chubby black belts who only got there because they paid the monthly fee for ten years do.
t. pulls guard after a wrestler takes him down
That doesn't make any sense.
grappling is ga-
A shame what happened to him. He is now a poster child for the new social credit system in China, being banned from high speed rail. Shit like that is why I refuse to buy anything made in China. Difficult but can be done with the exception of computer parts.
Nah, i think its pretty cool. I love when people act tough, then i choke them or put them in kimura or armbar, and they start calling me a pussy lol.
martial art gets popular
martial art becomes sport
sport develops ruleset
school teaches art tailored to sport ruleset because there's more money in competition than self defense
art gradually becomes less effective over time
Tae Kwon Do was fucking brutally effective, but it got turned into a sport with rigid rules. Now you put sport Tae Kwon Do against BJJ and watch it get rekt and everyone begins to think it's a fake or useless art, it gets abandoned over time, schools close down. It sucks.
After a takedown
I don't even think you wrestled in highschool
why are you mad? nobody cares that you're homosexual for rating stranger's physiques
Only bugmen could ever think that.
Maybe I was lucky to do TKD
No if you were actually lucky you'd do wrestling in HS.
Funny thing is that TKD and BJJ together are super effective, just look at Ryan Hall's fight from last night. Self-defence is kind of important, but in reality anyone who trains to fight is far more likely to find himself in a single combat match, rather than a street defence situation. I train for sport because some dumb, drunk shit on the street is less of a threat than someone who might kick my head off in a ring or cage. The majority of serious fights are planned in advance, not random skirmishes outside of bars or in alleyways.
It annoys me that everyone thinks self-defence is the root of all martial arts. Training for a situation that may never happen, and that you can probably come out of fine even with no actual self-defence training, versus a situation that will definitely happen because you've signed up for it in the first place. The training I've done has resulted in countless injuries and a few head traumas; obviously I don't do it for self-preservation.
I think 'self defense' is just a blanket term for fighting with minimal rules.
Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
Asian martial arts?
Muay Thai is from Thailand
BJJ came from Judo that's from Japan
BJJ came from Judo
Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from Judo?
as the skill level rises, people tune in more to what (ACTUALLY) works, and what doesn't. Not to say asian martial arts aren't effective, but it's clear wrestling, BJJ, boxing, kick boxing, and muy thai are the clear stand outs in the sport.
literally spreads her legs for him to straddle her
Yeah how the fuck am I not supposed to get hard? Are virgins just not allowed to do BJJ.
Never used a cup, do they have non-obtrusive ones?
If you think that something other than two people of the same sex loving or having some form of intercourse with each other is gay, you’re probably closeted.
Yes, the founder of BJJ studied at kodokan and the only things that BJJ had that pre-2008 judo didn't were kneelocks.
Main reason BJJ was made was cause he couldn't afford kodokan teaching fees cause Brazil, so he made his own sport with the same techniques.
Yea, a while back I saw a documentary that talked of this, some judo jap dude trained some Brazilians and with time they modified it to BJJ.
It's only gay if you mantain eye contact.
leglocks were banned from judo in the 30's. Ist touching the leg to throw aka leg grab that got banned in 2008 by IJF.
you gon'get tapp'd so many times a night that you won't even get hard.
Two or three main branches. Maeda for the Gracie, despite them been student of his best student only, Geo Omori for the others.
Both Maeda and Omori disliked the direction the Kodokan was giving to Judo by the time.
Yeah, that's why judo is so widely practiced and you see a flawless transition between judo and bjj players in tournaments
I think fundamentally sex and violence exist within the same domain of action.
sex is merely the act of penetration for the intent of sexual satisfaction.
therefore BJJ gives you the skill set in which you obtain the ability to control someone, such that you can decide to injure/kill them (by breaking a limb, choking them unconscious, or simply beginning to hit them), or fuck them (by penetrating them)
therefore BJJ really gives you the choice of whether you wanna be gay or not
I have had fat boners while rolling with hot girls
what do BlowJobJutsu players here think of 10th planet JJ? is it as effective as "regular" BJJ? or a joke
There isn't a massive amount of crosstraining between BJJ and judo
I'm sorry you're retarded
The main reason BJJ is widely practiced is due to very good marketing by the Gracie's, not due to it being magically superior to other grappling arts such as wrestling, judo or sambo
wrestling, judo or sambo
Why did BJJ take UFC/MMA by storm and not the above?
Come at me down here and say that bro
Because the early UFC often avoided bring in serious wrestlers from outside. Hulk Hogan attempted to challenge the gracies, but wasn't allowed when they found out about his catch wrestling experience. In fact if you look at the UFC in its current state you'll find wrestlers and samboists tend to be dominating the field.
The emotion you're feeling is sensuality due to skin to skin contact and awkward positions. Sensuality is essential in sexual contact and thus your mind is wandering into the gutter.
It's only gay if you get aroused and want to engage in sexual activity.
Solution: If you find yourself confused on your sexuality you may need to explore it more and probe for your limits, no pun intended.
Beyond that you can let the fear of being gay consume your life and lead you towards rage against homosexuality resulting from projection.
PS: Homosexuals can be alright; faggots who need to wave their dick around or wear revealing clothing to make everyone else uncomfortable is the problem. Also faggots who try to force LGBT onto kids and the uninterested.
Beside JJB what's an effective "wresting (don't know if there's another engish word for that)" discipline?
Something common please, don't want to pay 200 bucks per months for some obscure martial arts.
wrestling, bjj, sambo, and kinda judo
it's called grappling bro
What is ken shamrock?
I remember a judo guy in early ufc, maybe ufc4ish. He was really defensive survived a 3-4 minute clinch before he started getting hit in the head and lost.
Maybe if he had a few months of striking training it would have helped.
I watched Shamrock vs Gracie last night. Jesus it was fucking boring I wish there was more proper wrestlers in MMA. Even now.
Like when the least talented Gracie aka Royce choked out a much bigger Dan Severn? GTFO here. Rickson choked out an Olympic medalist numerous times, it's on video
Are you fucking retarded?
He got bent over by a Machado purple belt half his weight.
In fact if you look at the UFC in its current state you'll find wrestlers and samboists tend to be dominating the field.
Implying modern UFC, with time limits and no stomps, soccer kick or knees to a downed opponent is relevant.
To have you understand, watch Hall-Elkins and then this:
How many times Elkins backed off from a dominant position without the public saying a damn'd thing. Hall flees 3 times in a round and they're all booing him...
Another main difference is headbutts as you can see in the link just there.
Brazilian here. What's different about Brazilian jiu-jitsu from standard jiu-jitsu? We just call it jiu-jitsu here.
I wish there was more proper wrestlers in MMA
You got the memory of a clown fish.
Being able to kill 90% of people on earth with bare hands is gay
You like to suck dick yourself, dont you?
Only Chinese martial arts suck. Judo, taekwondo, kyoukushin karate and muay thai are all good bases for MMA.
BJJ is a fun physical activity that's not going to fuck up my joints too too bad.
Besides there is progression and getting belts feels great.
inb4 belts are childish
So are job promotions then.
Compared to judo or wrestling BJJ is far more chill and less explosive meaning i'll be able to train it for decades to come.
There is a strong competitive scene in every main city and competition is very important for males.
Only problem is it costs a lot
inb4 belts are childish
Belt are childish, less than stripe, but childish as fuck.
So are job promotions then
re-read that post, you clearly misunderstood what was being said
not due to it being magically superior to other grappling arts such as wrestling, judo or sambo
No, it's due to its widespread use in MMA. In MMA, jiu jitsu can be used without prior wrestling experience and is absolutely necessary for survival. If you have good striking and jiu jitsu, you can do well in MMA. If you lack jiu jitsu, you will not survive. That cannot be said of wrestling, judo, or sambo, despite all of them being useful.
This also misses what I was saying, which is that BJJ and judo, while sharing a large number of techniques, are not the same art, and that BJJ cannot be said to just be a poor man's half-baked version of judo. They are different arts with different emphases despite common history and roots.
It's the same stuff, but focused completely on no-gi. In that way, I think it's more effective and more applicable, as you're never going to fight someone wearing a gi anywhere except a BJJ school.
Japanese jiu jitsu is much more traditional and regimented. They have things resembling katas, some inclusion of strikes, and ritualistic stuff like making noise when you do certain moves, bowing a specific way, that kind of shit.
BJJ is what you see in MMA. Nearly every jiu jitsu school in the US (and I'm guessing Brazil as well) is Brazillian Jiu Jitsu.
We wear jackets 8/12 months in a year in Canada. I am far more likely to fight someone wearing a jacket than not
But Matt Hughes and Khabib don't. Also Josh Barnett was pretty much given a black belt after training for a year, same with lots of other MMA fighters. It's not uncommon for BJJ federations to give blackbelts out to people who beat them. Hell pretty sure joe rogans argued that some people should get one
Hugues and Barnett are the exceptions though.
Khabib is a world class sambist raised by a world class sambist and wrestlers that decided from day one his son would be a fighter or he would kill him himself.
You're supposed to be in a combat state of mind in the gym.
they no mastered the gwuatch becuz they big and strong. helio gracie was 120 pounths and sickly he fightch againsht 300 pount monstars, he inventad leverache to defeatch bigger oponents.
Yeah I did retard
I take you down
you pull guard like a retard because one of the Noguiera brothers told you how to armbar from guard
How effective is Hapkido as a martial art?
Would it work in a fight or is it more of a McDojo meme art?
Bro its pretty simple:
If its from Asia don't do it because chances are its a McDojo martial art. If you've got no other option doing them is better than nothing but if I had to pick between sambo,wrestling,dutch kickboxing,bjj and on the other side of the street I had hapkido,judo,tkd,karate I'd pick the western ones. If the Asian ones were the only ones around the training you get there is better than nothing at all but if you see clear better alternatives don't waste your money
Implying any pro martial artist hasn't been trained since childhood
Also you said jii jitsu was a necessity in MMA. It isnt. It's a very helpful skill to have, but it's not a necessity
I did until I tried it. Once I started getting murdered by guys who didn’t even lift (my lifts were 475/295/545) I realized there’s something to it. Now I’m not a goof who thinks pulling guard in a street fight is wise, but I know developing your wrestling in NoGi gives you an edge in a street fight
Brazilian JUI JITSU
Both of them are just modified forms of judo.
Rolling with girls is dope when they’re feeling you, I’ve had just sit there push in my face. but if it’s just a guy/girl roll it’s usually pretty normal.
Brazil is literally West of any country in western Europe
Russia is western when you compare it to Korea
Yeah but which one of them had better success in a competitive field
first of all, I'm not the guy who said bjj was necessary. Bjj, sambo, judo and cacc differ mainly in the rule sets.
A double wristlock (wrestling/cacc) is a kimura (bjj) which is ude garami (judo) and so on...
Both of them are just modified forms of judo.
and judo is a modified version of jacketed wrestling
If you lack jiu jitsu, you will not survive.
Ok if you ain't that guy I don't disagree with you.
This is the most level headed and accurate response I have ever seen on this board. Good job man, you’re not a true dummy.
Greco-Roman wrestling is just No-Gi Judo.
Russia is West compared to Korea
Egypt is more Western than Japan, that doesn't make Egypt Western or even close to western
Russia is western except for maybe siberia.
Well yeah, minus leg sweeps
Mut thai is an Asian natural art, isn't it?
Russia has never been considered Western ever though, either by its own people or outsiders. Hell Peter the great was known to introduce the "Western style of dress" as well as military techniques from Western nation's. Russia's always been more of a mongol/mongrol nation than a pure Western one
t. faglo saxon
Greco was there when Japan still hadn't seen the black ships.... Oh wait, I see what you did there. It's a shame for Judo though, but we get some more ne-waza time since bjj growth started to threaten IJF.
T. Newfag who doesn't know how to green text
Go away u stupid bong
Go away faglo. We've heard you bullshit here before. Everyone who's anglo is western and all Southern and Eastern Europeans aren't white. You're not the first or last faglo to spew your bullshit here
There is nothing gay about fighting. Yiu are the gay one for thinking that
Western = white
If we're running on that logic than BJJ is 100% not Western. And anyway Poland/Finland is the most eastern West nation anyways and Italians do count as white. Bit iffy on modern day Greeks though
Gi or no-gi bros?
Is bjj no-gi the same thing as wrestling?
WRONG. A FEW moves in Tae Know Do are useful in real fighting. 95% of it is woo woo shit. It's been proven in the octagon. Deal with it. Karate is hte same way. BJJ is effective in any type of street fight. But including other things is never bad. So throws, kicks, punches etc. But there are certain fighting styles that are proven to work IRL and not in a gym larping.
no-gi isn't the same as wrestling. Its the same as bjj with gi but with no gi. Its just more like wrestling in a way that you're able to move for freely but so is your opponent
This is very true. Most of their kicks are just useless. I learned 2 kicks(roundhouse and sidekick) and perfect both of them. I was able to beat up everyone who I competed against. My masters always tried to teach me all the spinning bullshit but I always half assed them and never got good with them.
Karate was the worst experience of my life. Went there for a year and legit had 1 sparring session the whole time.
Don't you know that there is more to guard than closed guard... Are you gracie humaita or another gracie cult member or what?
Doesn't matter what kind of guard you pull. You'll still make that decision when your ass is on the concrete floor
Doesn't matter what kind of guard you pull.
White belt 3 stripes spotted.
You can't go for a DLR the same way you go for a closed guard.
no like woman they are sexually secure which is why they check each other out touch each others boobs straight dudes are the same they are so not gay they will roll around on the floor asserting dominance in a fighting discipline or touch each others dicks in changing or share a fleshlight with the bro now i swing both ways but i only like asian ladyboys so i am semi gay
Hes is top grappler and NAGA champion
Contact sports only seem gay to sheltered gymcels who are categorically uncomfortable with physical contact with other human beings.
no leg sweeps
no chokes and locks
IT'S JUST GRECO ROMAN WRASSLIN XDDDD
because one of the Noguiera brothers told you how to armbar from guard
lol what is this 2008?
Yeah but he's not a BJJ dude
Homosexuals should be banned from all contact sports for the safety of participants
Ok I’ll take out a gun and shoot you in self defense then
what gi do you guys recommend? I have one from my gym but the laundry is a hassle as I'm training every day, so I need to get a few more. Ideally i'd like something lightweight
grappling was influenced by bjj, lot of people may say grappling = no gi bjj
khabib has a background in wrestling, sambo and judo. He does not have much of a formal BJJ background, though i think he recently started training it.
That's the general vibe I get from a lot of gymcel nerds herr. They grew up playing video games while their local Chad was playing baseball,football or rugby. The Chad got laid more so the Timothys started lifting hoping that they can get some of Chad's leftovers. When they get asked why they don't play the answer is always that it's gay/for children/they're too good for it
It has potential, but it suffers from the common problem of assuming your opponent is going to be docile enough to allow you to do all these limb contortion movements while standing upright, which is when both you and him/her are much more mobile. I trained Chon-Tu Kwon Hapkido for six years under GM Pellegrini's system (ICHF) and although I like knowing how to do various joint locks and throws, I feel like there's very little that you couldn't get from a more competent system like Judo, BJJ, Sambo, Wrestling, etc.
Hapkido also has no ground mechanics (or at least, none that I had trained in), and pitiful striking mechanics.
Grappling was not influenced by bjj, BJJ was influenced by previous grappling. And no people don't say grappling = no gi bjj, since BJJ has gi and nogi. What are you on my dude?
sex is merely the act of penetration for the intent of sexual satisfaction.
nice bullshit faggot.
sex is for the purpose of procreation. there isn't a single natural act that exists for the purpose of pleasure. pleasure is simply a way of motivating your ape brain into chasing what is good, and what is good is what allows you and your genes to thrive.
Grappling encompasses any and all martial arts that relies on prolonged, seized contact with an opponent. This includes BJJ, Judo, Sambo, and wrestling. When someone refers to grappling, they are including any and all of these martial arts, as well as certain aspects of other arts (the clinch in Muay Thai for example). Each form of grappling focuses on different aspects.
Anyone who competes at the top level of MMA will need some techniques from all of these disciplines. Khabib may not have much official training in jiu jitsu, but he has time and time again demonstrated great proficiency and knowledge of submission techniques that are mostly thought of as jiu jitsu techniques. The problem is that grappling arts have seen such high levels of cross-pollination, that no technique can ever truly be said to be a pure technique of one art form or another.
Kill yourself, retard. Keep LARPing in these threads and spreading your armchair martial arts knowledge
Pretty accurate, really. Between 17 and 27 I did a pretty big "zero to hero" kinda thing, and playing rugby through college was a way bigger factor than any of the exercise. The idea that literally just lifting and getting bigger is comparable (in terms of personal growth) to sharing a physical struggle with a team of other men is downright laughable. You just can't build the same character and social/leadership skills in the gym.
That's what I figured. I did Hapkido for like a year as a kid. We learned some kicks that were ok but some throws which looked cool but the person being thrown would have to go with it and it would never work if the person resisted at all (for example, grabbing a person's wrist and twisting their hand so that they'd flip onto the ground). We were taught punches but only from a upright square stance. Nothing from the ground. No sparring ever.
I wrestled later for a few years and realized how much of a meme Hapkido is. I'm considering starting BJJ soon.
good post. I would add that, as with all martial arts, there are only so many ways to hurt someone, so a lot of these arts end up independently inventing the same technique. Every grappling art will have some sort of choke, some sort of joint lock, etc.
implying Jow Forums isn't too brainlet to understand that elite competition is won through specific techniques and principles as opposed to whole schools in this day and age
(for example, grabbing a person's wrist and twisting their hand so that they'd flip onto the ground)
i did aikido for a little over a year when i was a kid and they told us that these aren't actually throws, they're meant to be like wrist locks and the "uke" (compliant partner) is rolling out of them so as to avoid the lock. Aikido is absolute unrepentant dog shit and if anyone in this thread is considering it: don't.
I'm trying to create the bases for the most hipster MMA fighter possible in my head
Striking: Lethwei or Savate
Wrestling: Turkish Oil Wrestling
Submission Grappling: Catch
Strength: Strongman exercises
Cardio: Burpees and Mountain biking
my gym only does no gi once a week, which is annoying because I want to get as much varied training as I can. On the topic though, can you recommend any good rash guards?
the striking should be sanshou/sanda
You would be the most powerful douchebag who ever walked the Earth. You should do it.
This user is right in saying that the roll your partner does is generally to avoid injury, but lots of McDojos can and do pass it off as being the overall goal of the wristlock itself. Being put in that kind of lock can really hurt, don't get me wrong, but when it's being taught and demonstrated these are done with willing participants. They already know that if they stand there and do nothing while the demonstrator continues to apply the lock that they will likely get injured a little bit or severely. They go down because they know it's what they're supposed to do.
Small joint manipulation simply relies too heavily on too great a number of conditions to be met in order to achieve a subpar and unreliable lock. Some locks are viable like various shoulder and neck holds that you see police use to control somebody, but there's so much extra bullshit that comes along with Hapkido that it just simply isn't worth it.
One thing that was worthwhile about it, however, where the gun/knife/club disarms we got to learn during my time there. But even those are pretty unreliable given how chaotic and nerve-wracking a real encounter is
Why are Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu two different arts? Is there literally any reason not to train in both if possible? Why aren't they just taught together?
One does standup, the other focuses on groundwork. There is little to no reason beyond time constraints to not do both. Different rulesets make it seem a bit awkward to teach together
BJJ is the most worthless Martial arts in the streets lmao. Especially if theres more than one one person involved, if you find yourself in the ground you're fucked, no amount of muh grappling is gonna save you from getting your head stomped by the other guys bro.
this. plus slamming yourself down on concrete is a terrible idea
Tony Ferguson, the UFC lightweight champ contender, does Jeet Kun Do
And no people don't say grappling = no gi bjj, since BJJ has gi and nogi.
Yes, they say. I have a friend freestyle wrestler CMS who competed in grappling and bjj and who says grappling = no gi bjj.
Because of rules
My school is strictly nogi, so Ive never trained in the gi, its a ton of fun though and I really enjoy it.
gay until you get choked to death with your own arm
you can go full-force in grappling without risk of injury
Lel, try clinch and stand up grappling with submissions sometimes, fag.
Whatever happened to Asian martial arts?
MMA came in the 90s, the Gracies beat up some dudes with self-made karate styles and suddenly, it was common knowledge, that "Asian martial arts don't work" because they "don't spar" and "don't lift".
Did it matter that boxers or MT guys don't lift either? And Muay Thai guys don't really spar except slap boxing? Actually, Nigel Benn and Calzaghe didn't spar either and it didn't hurt them.
No, it didn't matter at all. People were and are stupid. MMA was the new norm. Society was so removed from real violence that "MMA = TEH STREET" was (and is) unironically what middle-class people believe. And also, the whole UFC and MMA thing was anhuge, huge marketing thing. It was the first brand to use online guerrilla marketing and boy, did it take off. Even today, the debunked memes form the 90s still exist: You NEED lifting, sparring, etc, 80% of fights go to the ground, etc.
It's all just meme'ing. But people are stupid.
post more 90's fight memes
focused completely on no-gi
and also getting super high
whatever man. those chechens do nogi submission wrestling, which is BJJ nogi, pretty much. Unless your concept of BJJ is gi only
that dude put all his points into Melee (Sword Specialization) and none into swimming. RIP
Anything where being the bottom guy means winning is gay
Burpees are at the core of conditioning for combat sports.
No gi submission wrestling is BJJ
Does the idea of rulesets and how they can affect a sport not enter your mind at all, or are you just a retard who thinks if two sports have some of the same techniques they are the same sport?
BJJ and grappling have similar rules
What if I roll with a girl?
It looks gay as fuck.
You keep saying grappling as if grappling is a sport. I mostly think you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
Rolling with a girl is pretty hot desu. Just came from BJJ training today, the girl I rolled with kept shoving my face into her boobs (closed guard). Kept pretending to fight back and she'd just hold my head there even tighter. She's my favorite training partner now
yes only faggots do bjj
alright whose got the turkish circle dance meme
combat sport makes you think about gay sex
And anyway Poland/Finland is the most eastern West nation anyways and Italians do count as white.
No, only the British and Nordics are white, Irish not included