/fast/ - #466 - Keep It Up Edition

how much do you typically eat on refeed hour?

/ck/ is my homeboard and cooking is my favorite hobby and I'm prepping food for a cookout tomorrow night.
28 hours to go till refeed. Hold me bros.

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Snake juice is to replace electrolytes that you are missing from your diet.

how is your fast going bros?
how far along have you gotten?

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Bros it's just 48 hours. Its really not that hard.

See for yourself brah

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2.6g sodium
1.5g potassium
1 teaspoon of baking soda
magnesium glycinate separately
all this in 1.2l water, that alright?

>lost 40kg (88 lbs) within the last year
>been doing 5-7 day fasts for the past three months
>eat a decent meal yesterday for the first time in a while
>in absolute pain from bloating
have I dun goofed? would my stomach have shrunk from fasting/weight loss?

Your stomach doesnt shrink unless youve has surgery on it dude. Youre fine

Did a 336 hour water fast, vaped 18 mg nicotine juice throughout the fast
Electrolytes are for lovers of this world, ask me anything

would painkillers like ibuprofen affect a fast in any way?

water retention etc

Studies on the issue are inconclusive or conflicting. Just do what you normally do. IF should barely shake up anybody's routine. I would hardly even call it fasting.

Don't drink the stupid shake, it will break the fast

For real. I'm past a 72 hour fast currently, with a goal of 96, but I may go further. First 48 of the first fast is the HARDEST. that is when you will be slammed with all your addictions. Your teeth will ache at the sight of sugary beverages. Your brain will fill with thoughts of "will I pass out? Will I die? Fuck it, it's not even worth it. I'm just gonna order pizza and binge like a motherfucker". You may even feel a little ill at this time. If you can excercise the willpower to get through the first 48 and NOT eat a sugary, carb loaded refeed, then you are on the fast track to kicking your food addiction. Hunger comes in waves. After you wait out the worst of it, it gets easier and easier to ignore. Then the seratonin kicks in, and you may actually feel pretty good as long as you're getting your salts in. It may feel scary at first, but that's honestly just a combination of addiction (especially to sugar) and the human survival instinct that says "holy shit body, eat everything in sight, so you don't starve to death if you can't find food". Body fat exists for one purpose, and that's to grant survival through extended periods of time without food. Since absence of food is non-existent outside of third world shit holes, you gotta put your fat to work yourself. Don't worry, you are not starving. Fat is food. It's also probably more nutritious than most of the shit you stuff your face with. Do not be decieved. Do not eat.

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I take intermittently take naproxen for an existing injury and I didnt notice it having any effect on my 7 day fast.

Wisdom here. 24-48 is the hardest. Your body is a screaming toddler demanding food because thats what you've given it way too much of every day of your life prior. But when you wake up on on the 3rd day and that raging biological infant has finally cried itself out and come to terms with the fact that you're not shoving a burger and xtra large fries down your gullet. Man... the level of clarity you get is incredible. mfw

Go for more than 96, you can get a week easy with snake juice once you make it through the tantrums.

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How effective is fasting one day and feeding the next. Been doing OMAD for a month looking to change it up, would alternate day fasting be more or less effective

So I have this question:

"If fasting is so good and effective why do bodybuilders still promote the 3-6 meals a day of lean meat, rice and broccoli to loose weight instead of fasting and high protein refeeds?"

I can completely understand the logic to fasting but is there any science that compares fasting to the bodybuilder diet?

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Just fast fatty.

He also claimed to be halfrican. Canadians are fucking weird af.

Absolutely spot on. 3 to 5 days is, best I can tell, when the hunger is defeated. If you break that time window, which is easy with a little salt, you are golden and can go for fasts as long as you want. Newbs get hung up on 48s and 72s. The average mediocrity gets to a week and decides they have hit a milestone, so breaks the fast and repeats. The clever faster realizes the fast can go on until he gets a clear signal from his body to stop.

Granted, some people are going to get those hunger pains again at 14 days instead of 40 days and at 20% bodyfat instead of 15%, but on the whole your body knows what to do when you put it in fat-stores-burning mode. Let it do its thing. Don't interrupt it with meals when you have plenty of fat to burn.

Learning the discipline to do short fasts with maximum craving is a mental feat, no doubt, but learning the confidence to go into much longer fasts is part of the fasting focused life. You will fuck up at some point down the road and you will have put on some more weight than a 72hr fast can handle. Being able to just say "alright, I'm going to fast until I am back where I want to be," is the ultimate fasters goal.

I can’t find any food grade epsom salt and I can’t be fucked ordering online and waiting for it. Can I just go without or if need be buy a magnesium supplement?

Day 3 of my 4 day fast here. I used to do OMAD and eat around now, so I'm hungry as fuck bros.

Its pretty much all food grade unless you're buying your salts from a pool supply store. Go to Walgreens or CVS and get a small bag of whatever epsom salt they have.

I started doing IF, but I'm eating lunch at noon and dinner at nine pm. It's not exactly 8 hour split, but how different would the results be? Does IF have to be 16:8? (still eating =

Its not a fast if you're not going 24 hours.

IF is a basic bitch meme routine that should be called "stop eating all fucking day fatass"

what about exercise while doing a long fast? is it functional for the muscles or it just wears you out?

Im 36 hours in and my piss is a dark orange. Ive been drinking a gallon of water a day. Is this normal?

Jesus. Are you serious? Surely you know there's a time to cut and a time to bulk right? For a fatass, fasting is the best option. You aren't gonna go from blobmode to strongfat. Bodybuilders don't have a problem with bodyfat typically, but what they can do is bulk and build muscle, and then do a fast to cut the fat and really let that muscle definition shine. It all depends on what someone is trying to achieve. Someone seeking pure strength probably shouldn't be too concerned with fasting. Someone who just wants to look lean and chiseled could probably use some fasting to their advantage. As always, fatties just need to cut the fat. If you're fat, and deep down you know the difference between "fat" and just having a little excess weight, then you should probably get the weight off before you worry about bodybuilding.

I'm in the cycle of death. I fast a couple days until I smoke the ganja then I binge until I have no more weed left then I feel awful then fast then buy more, smoke, then don't care then starve etc. I just hate that it seems impossible to fast when you're high.

On your eat day after a 72 hour fast do you eat one large meal? Or do you eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner like a typical diet? Want to know before I start.

I get stoned every day shortly before bed. My routine is to get off work, get high, jerk off, maybe play some video games and sleep. I get horny more than hungry when I get high. That might not be the case for everyone though.

Optimally you would just have one tiny meal. Like a little chunk of steak would be ideal so you bounce back into far burning mode faster. Either right as you wake up, or before bed, it's your call. Breakfast might have you feeling a little better throughout the day, but feeling the hunger at night, but pre-sleep will give you that food lull sleepiness when you need it.

>doing OMAD
>eat 2 baked chicken breasts and a ton of broccoli
>can barely finish it
>decide to count the calories
>only like 300 calories
Holy fuck I thought it was gonna be way more than that. I've been eating that meal each day for a week. Am I gonna die?

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thats not what I was asking though

I would love to fast but I'm a drunk. It's all bad. I'm drunk now.

IM GONNA DO IT Jow Forums IM GOING TO FAST STARTHING THIS NIGHT

FUCK THIS BEER BOD AND FLABBY NECK, LOVEHANDLES, FUCK IT I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT, I DONT CARE ABOUT MUSCLES JUST WANT TO BE SLIM AGAIN FUAAAAAARKCKKCK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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whos this guy?

Yes

IF (sometimes up to 24-48 hrs) and weightlifting at the same time. Yay or nay?

It's a Wednesday. Do you work in a restaurant or something?

82 hours in to a 125 hour fast. Any anons with me?

Considering going 150 hours.

>Take snake juice, or just supplement electrolytes.
>Water=2L
>Potassium chloride =1 tsp (No Salt)
>Sodium chloride = 1/2 tsp (Himalayan Pink Salt)
>Sodium Bicarbonate = 1 tsp (Baking Soda)
>Magnesium Sulphate = 1/2 tsp (Food Grade Epsom Salts)
>Mix these in 2L of water and sip it throughout the day.
>[OPTIONAL] 2 tbsp Apple cider vinegar and 4 tbsp lemon juice. DO NOT MIX with snake juice, drink separately.
>You can also do this if you feel lightheaded, weak, dizzy, nauseous, etc., on shorter water fasts. Don’t do this while intermittent fasting.

How essential is this stuff at hour 20 of a 48 hour fast? Just lifted a bit and kind of have a headache but that could be from staring at a screen all day.

Been drinking a lot of water out of habit. Took 20mgs of adderall throughout the day as well so i guess that could be it too.

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Snake juice is not needed at all regardless of how long you fast. It's a total myth.

Read The Complete Guide To Fasting if you want accurate information. Electrolytes remain within normal values on long term water fasts.

The Snake cult leader makes everything up. Everything he says is fabricated. No sources are ever cited for his baloney.

I was wondering about that. Are they literally talking about the keto drink on amazon? pic related

I have some salt, might be able to find some baking soda

i have Epsom salt but i don't think it is food grade because i got it at walgreens to clean my bongs and shit

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I love this guy so much. Literally my main inspiration. A lot of the shit he says is way out there but in terms of simplicity, discipline, and drive to results he's the best.
You should hear him talk about wanting to be Trump's nutrition adviser. He totally fantasizes about it and about demolishing the healthcare system and replacing it with child fasting education.

Only thing I disagree with him on is that he says he's the Donald Trump of nutrition. In fact he is the ISIS of nutrition.

dude go to walmart the ingredients are literally like $8.

Yes. Why does the day of the week matter? I drink every single day.

those massive department store abominations don't exist in the city of chicago

24 hour walgreen maybe but that would mean going outside and overpaying

i can wait until morning

that is common in that field of work which is how i was able to guess that

mon-fri 9-5 people don't really do that

I used to live in Chicago, you could easily walk somewhere and buy NoSalt and himalayan salt, literally anywhere except maybe south of 63rd. you can forgo the other ingredients. You don't even need them, you'll be fine with just water.

>mon-fri 9-5 people don't really do that
So now that I'm addicted, how do I get out of it?

i did actually look it up and there is a 24 hour walgreens a mile away but i already took my post workout shower and am pretty high and comfy

i 100% have Himalayan salt, just gonna add that to my water and call it a night

why are you smoking weed? do you see how that activity is anithetical to the desire to live a healthy life, as expressed by your willingness to fast?

if it were me i'd replace it with pot but not everyone has that luxury

i stopped doing ketamine recently because i wanted to stop. i didn't have any blood in my piss or anything but i felt some mild discomfort one day and realized i'd had enough. i had to want to stop.

then you're straight mang. drink salt water and enjoy your fast. it's a good experience. also I miss Chicago.

step 1:you cease consuming alcohol
step 2: you identify the underlying reason for your addiction
step 3: correct the problem

enjoy your new life

Ketamine is a medication mainly used for starting and maintaining anesthesia.[18] It induces a trance-like state while providing pain relief, sedation, and memory loss.

holy shit lmfao thats like the ultimate loser drug

to kill the boredom while i sit here, game, and browse Jow Forums

and no, not particularly but i'm not looking to have a debate about THC

boredom means that youre not doing anything interesting or worthwhile - you never feel bored doing something meaningful

im just saying maybe dont suppress it - id honestly recommend a dopamine fast

That's the description for its medical use. definitely no trances involved.

loser drug? sure. most of them are

ultimate loser drug is heroin though. and it isn't even close

i wouldnt recommend comparing yourself to the bottom, but the top - you dont want to be the winner of the losers

all i mean is justifying vice by saying it could be worse is a path that you dont want to treat because you can always sink down further and still justify your behavior

unironically can't remember the last thing i did that felt truly meaningful. maybe visited my grandparents?

i had never heard of a dopamine fast but i'll look into it thanks for the tip

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All in the past now anyway, I stopped awhile ago. Was just trying to relate to alcoholic-bro to help share some advice.

are you this guy
because that routine in my opinion will not make a person healthy or happy

I still basically answered your questions

>Why don't body builders do it?

Cause they burn more calories on the regular. They don't need to fast to lose weight. Just to maintain their muscle mass consumes more calories than an average dude even if they both do nothing all day.

Negative, not me. Sounds like me enough though.

That's a valid opinion, and I'm not flatly dismissing it. But we're talking a couple of hours at night before bed. Until I fast and lift enough to earn a gf the impact seems negligible.

>discord link in OP
I ain't joining your tranny circle jerk.

What legal drugs helps me with fasting?

Nah, I'm not that guy. I'm mostly fine. Have a pretty decent paying job. Can't really complain.

yo no sweat man im just... idk trying to give people a different perspective like -- idk its all good bro

discipline

No

all good bud i appreciate it. if more people were like you my country wouldn't be going to shit.

Talk normal

i'm not going to shit tomorrow am i?

life is suffering and you don't want to suffer - so you really don't want to live

ok then pls god unmake me. Never asked for this life anyway.

god, fasting was fucking hell the few times I tried it, it's insane how hard it is

stop being a soft little BITCH
you need to remake your internal dialogue
nip these weak ass thoughts in the bud
be a fucking man

How long did you make it?

No

why do you have no confidence?

I have confidence

Would Cranberry Concentrate pills fuck up my fast? I'm really hoping to cleanse my system and they help but are not essential.

Bump cunts

Gymcel world is full of broscience. Only roided up competitors need to eat six meals. For regular people who workout and stay fit, just have a fasting focused lifestyle. It'll help with gains too.

Just lay off fapping and porn forever, retain your semen, transmute it, dantien etc
just do it or you're fucked

These are the kind of posts I like to see to help keep me going. Good shit lads