>For years the standard advice to lose weight on Jow Forums was "CALORIES IN VS CALORIES OUT, just eat less while keeping protein intake high and throw in some cardio!" >Literally millions of people have successfully lost weight this way but now somehow that's actually wrong and what you SHOULD do is starve yourself and get a binge eating disorder when you inevitably fail the stupid fad diet >Every single athlete loses weight through a healthy diet and a caloric deficit, NOT fasting >No bodybuilder has EVER prepared for a show by "fasting"
>ADMITS in an interview he didn't know what fasting was until a few years ago when he witnessed that some girl he was training stopped eating and lost a lot of weight (she entered a large caloric deficit?) >HAS NO MEDICAL OR SCIENTIFIC DEGREE - yet still makes claims that fasting will "cure" diseases such as cancer and diabetes, and that your doctor is a fraud by prescribing you medicine with actual evidence to support its efficacy in treating your illness >Somehow believes that you cannot lose fat without fasting (how have millions upon millions of people done this for years before this guy made a youtube channel a couple years ago?) >No education/credentials besides being a trainer at a commercial gym >No expertise besides a small handful of fatasses that claim they lost weight by entering a massive caloic deficit (not followed up with whether they actually KEPT the weight off in the following years) >Has a bunch of "transformation" images on his instagram and website, however you can buy dozens to hundreds of these on Fiverr for under $10. They are not exactly a rare commodity >NO EDUCATION >LITERALLY tells you to drink your urine (youtube.com/watch?v=OzE8SZpbJkk) >LITERALLY suggests eating rotten meat (youtube.com/watch?v=-mYsPiGEDPY) >Thinks that children in their developmental stages should fast (so that they don't grow taller than this 5'5 manlet)
No the most retarded meme is that you should eat (((grains))) and that (((calories))) determine weight loss instead of hormones (a lie popularized by the Coca-Cola company)
Julian Richardson
>and that (((calories))) determine weight loss instead of hormones
But that is correct, if you eat at a caloric deficit you will lose weight. Starving yourself is unsustainable and retarded.
Joshua Gray
you can't eat less than 0, you stupid fat fucking pig.
Andrew Peterson
Hey do you drink urine too?
Joshua Powell
Look up Jason Fung and TrueNorthHealth videos on fasting if you want people with more credentials and experience to give pro-fasting arguments
Noah Gutierrez
>Credentials and expertise give you clout Post screenshot of your credentials so I can take this post seriously
Oliver Hernandez
Fasting is literally just CICO to the extreme. It's just really fast cutting.
Grayson Miller
>Making extreme claims like curing cancer and diabetes without being a doctor or having any sort of scientific background
Yes it quite literally does mean you don't know what you're talking about,
Alexander Sanchez
>CICO Then you agree then right? The CI part is zero whole the CO is your BMR. You're an idiot OP
Robert Howard
There are any people with credentials who believe or promote this stupid shit. Credentials would be being an expert in physiology and nutrition. Nephrology is not a credential for talking about fasting or nutrition. Unless maybe you'll let Jason Fung do your brain surgery too because hey, he has a medical degree
Easton Diaz
Nutritional science really isn't a medical field surely you agree sir? I'd honestly trust him at least equally to the GP down the street
Chase Mitchell
These posts have no credentials, don't expect me to read them.
Thomas Cox
Snake diet guy says your doctor is fraud for prescribing you with medication and that you should quit it cold turkey. He claims every disease and illness can be cured through fasting.
He discovered fasting two years ago (by his admission) and presumably has no post-secondary education. (never mentioned in any video)
You trust him over an actual doctor?
Cooper Nguyen
Extreme fad diets never work though, they always result in the fatass gaining the weight back because it's unsustainable and does not teach them to actually live a healthy and balanced lifestyle.
This is the same shit as the diets Jow Forums always makes fun of where women only drink 2 cups of cranberry juice before bed every day or whatever
Connor Lee
Population of people who believe him is self-selecting for low IQ
Parker Torres
snakeman tried out everything he said unlike your (((credentialed))) doctors he has different routines for bodybuilder/powerlifter clients fasting works for fatties therefore it is not a meme /thread
Christopher Torres
What this guy said, it works and he knows what hes doing
Tyler Wilson
he himself realized that when he saw fatasses doing 30+ day fasts and gaining it back he got so pissed he changed the routine to 3 day fasts followed by
Ryder Scott
But I don't understand why not tell them to do cardio, lift weights and track calories and up their protein intake? That is an actual sustainable approach and has been used for decades by countless people. Why chug fucking disgusting salt water and starve yourself only to binge on your refeed?
Why all the retarded advice about quitting medication, supplements and DRINKING YOUR URINE?
Carter Thomas
>But I don't understand why not tell them to do cardio, lift weights and track calories and up their protein intake? No money in that (the competition is massive since it actually works and is science-based). So you have to fish for the batch of impatient retards who want to be told that there's a big conspiracy and what everyone else is doing doesn't actually work
Nolan Lewis
Because that is hard and takes a long time. Fasting is quick
It's not quick when you put the weight back because all you did was follow an unsustainable approach for a couple weeks
Christopher Jackson
he promotes a "fasting focused lifestyle" >you fast 2-3 days until you get lean >then you eat 1 meal a day but realistically you would just fast till you get lean then say thanks snakeman and leave, but if you notice you're gaining weight again just go on OMAD and you're fine. Cole hates the idea of people just losing weight and leaving btw he keeps telling them to hit the weights once they get lean. He also hates people that just fast, he said their mindset is completely fucking wrong and that the people who do "steady state cardio" or showup to the gym to workout whilst fasting are the ones who'll actually become lean and ripped and stay like that all year long so in reality what you are arguing is pretty much the same as snakeman but fasting makes you lose weight quick so it doubles as motivation for fatties
David Foster
>what you SHOULD do is starve yourself and get a binge eating disorder when you inevitably fail the stupid fad diet You don't know what starving is you moron >Somehow believes that you cannot lose fat without fasting (how have millions upon millions of people done this for years before this guy made a youtube channel a couple years ago?) You can but it's slower and wastes more muscle m.youtube.com/watch?v=HTYv3FcEcus
>No expertise besides a small handful of fatasses that claim they lost weight by entering a massive caloic deficit (not followed up with whether they actually KEPT the weight off in the following years) "A small handful" instagram.com/snake_diet_wizard >Every single athlete loses weight through a healthy diet and a caloric deficit, NOT fasting That's a very retarded argument, typical from people with a chronically inflamed brain since they don't fast hehe, "if everyone isn't doing X then it's wrong!"
Charles Allen
I think it's much more than that since whenever someone talks about a shill appears to discourage you to do it and tell how you're"starving"
Justin Peterson
>But I don't understand why not tell them to do cardio, lift weights and track calories and up their protein intake? Because it's too slow, people are more likely to keep going if they see results
Not exactly proof, there's also little to no one saying anything negative about his "diet" and you can buy before and after pictures from Fiverr for like $10 for a hundred.
>typical from people with a chronically inflamed brain since they don't fast hehe, "if everyone isn't doing X then it's wrong!"
How is it a bad argument? This guy discovered fasting two years ago and has no credentials except a few before/after pics on his instagram (could be fake very easily). MEANWHILE millions of people have done it the way he claims "doesn't work as well".
More like no one on /fast/ actually posts their body. Go listen to some guy who drinks his piss lmao, don't listen to (((food))) shills
Daniel Wilson
I don't get why you're so against trying out new things user. If you don't think it works why don't you try it out (((no cheating))). If you're not going to actually do the work and keep just theorizing, well I hope you realize talk is cheap. Try everything until something sticks.
Jaxon Scott
Does fasting work? Yes Then shut the fuck up, BITCH
Ian King
I don't know why this triggers you so much. It's the most effective way to burn fat, and that's not even a debate. If you do any research on extended fasting, you will learn that fasting is muscle sparing. It helps people break their food addictions, so that when they start eating again, they don't have the same cravings as they did before. He also promotes weight lifting, when you're lean. He doesn't just want you fasting all the time. Extended fasting isn't meant for people who are already lean. Your body fat is literally energy that has been stored up and has glucose and nutrients in it to sustain you. The salt/potassium water is just for replenishing your electrolytes, so you don't get headaches or feel weak. I'm not saying everything he says is accurate, but when it comes to a fasting lifestyle, he's one of the best to teach it.
David Lewis
Why would I try it out when what I'm doing right now is working well for me? I actually lift and do cardio everyday unlike the fatasses in /fast/ so I need protein and carbs
Easton Thomas
>haven't tried it out >is it a meme saged
Logan Hall
Look up fasting + autophagy, dr jason fung or whatever that is similar for a non broscience explanation on why it's good for you. Autophagy chasers also end up with less loose skin after weight loss compared to calorie restriction ENERGY IN ENERGY OUT trong victims. Go figure. Snake juice is apparently just a way to keep yourself from getting dizzy among other things, which I havent tried so i cant personally confirm it. I didn't eat for 2 weeks and noticed far less loose skin when doing push ups. I did intermittent fasting for 2 years to shed 70 kg and ended up with less loose skin compared to other people around my length and who weighed less than me at their peak. I only recommend long term fasting for the sake of skin tightening, or once yearly bodily maintenance. If you dont have those issues, cut the way athletes do.
Cooper Brown
Nice anecdotal evidence bro
Chase Robinson
Is being this dumb even allowed?
Luis Fisher
Cancer cells use glycolysis, which is the metabolisation of sugars, to create energy (ATP). Carbohydrates, either mono-, di- or polysaccharides, all get broken down into sugar, i.e. glycogen. If you do not eat, glycogen levels remain depleted, cancer cells thus will not be able to sustain themselves and die off. Cancer cells cannot process fat or protein for energy, because their mitochondria are shut off.
>because their mitochondria are shut off Expand on this
Nathaniel Watson
No you see the food KIKES don't want Doctors to prescribe fasting because it doesn't earn them SHEKELS
Camden Nguyen
Your existence proves that it is
Tyler Collins
Ah yes of course.
Ayden Adams
I do fasting + ice baths + steady state cardio that's more than enough for me I'm too much of a bitch to drink piss just like you are too much a bitch to fast
Daniel Barnes
It's just retarded and I would lose my muscle and strength while feeling like shit. It would only work for 400lb fatsses that do no regular exercise
Ryder Clark
then let the fatasses do it stop being a gains goblin for them with fear mongering
Sebastian Ross
Almost all of them will fail and rebound from this meme diet though. They should learn to exercise and actually eat healthy not a bandaid solution of starving yourself, that never works in the longrun.
Samuel Martin
you can train yourself to fast like a Buddhist or you can train yourself to go to the gym and lose 1lb a week fucking kek
Zachary Clark
>SNAKE OIL DIET >"Dude just change it up a little so it doesn't look like you copied" >SNAKE JUICE DIET
Blake Martinez
Another fad among countless fads that "aren't fads"
Just like keto
Just like IF
Jack Johnson
I've lost 27.8 pounds in 20 days. Went from 241.4 to 213.8. I'm still fat, but it works.
I'm fasting now for 10 days. I lift everyday on the fast and do running 3 days a week. Is this a good idea to do or am I going to injury myself.
Aaron Sanchez
There's literally nothing wrong with drinking urine you stupid brainwashed cuck.
Samuel Taylor
I'd be careful.
Cooper Bailey
lol
Aiden Reyes
rebounding is really tough to do when youre used to fasting. you can go a week straight eating garbage and just go into a fast and correct those habits. Yo-yo fasting like this obviously isn't sustainable, but it's just an example. Fasting is like a tool you can always use after you get the bulk off, its just most people are scared shitless at the thought of going even one day without food and therefore have no frame of reference to realize it really isnt that bad.
Caleb Jackson
>It's not sustainable All diets that help you lose weight are unsustainable, you wouldnt lose weight otherwise lol If you CICO forever, you'll become anorexic and die If you fast forever, you'll burn through fat and muscle, the. Get sick and die, slightly faster Both are unsustainable
Henry Rivera
How can a fat ass starve it’s self?
Gabriel Anderson
Not that user I don’t think mitochondria can shut off, but I think the “fasting kills cancer” has some merit because cancer cells grow faster than regular cells so they consume more energy. I would imagine comparing a tiger that runs all day in the savannah compared to a zoo tiger, if they were both fed less food the wild tiger will die first since he uses more energy.
David Wright
>(((calories))) Okay, explain to me how a units of energy and thermodynamics is a Jewish plot.
Caleb Ortiz
technically, I believe it takes more calories to masticate, swallow, and digest raw broccoli than you actually extract from raw broccoli.
Colton Ross
yes I'm sure Big Gulp is patrolling Jow Forums 24/7 to prevent them from not eating you fucking retard
>Literally millions of people have successfully lost weight this way In reality, every time the approach was examined under lab conditions, it failed.
Nolan Flores
Not him but google Atwater system.
Jonathan Perez
this is copypasta right?
Carter Brooks
Fasting with insulin injections was actually proven to cure diabetes.
Austin Collins
Intermittent fasting and OMAD are really just techniques to help achieve CICO in the end. I don't see the point in water fasting however, seems kinda retarded.
Chase Cook
>No bodybuilder has EVER prepared for a show by "fasting"