What is the most fat loss/muscle sparring diet out of keto, intermittent fasting, and fasting?

What is the most fat loss/muscle sparring diet out of keto, intermittent fasting, and fasting?

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probably IF, but i'm wondering - why are there no more "high test" / "test boost" threads?

Full-fledged fasting = just throwing gains in the trash
Keto = May lose some muscle due to protein
restriction
IF = lose fat, keep muscle, cognitive boost, even get elevated ketone levels as a bonus

My worry with IF is the protein synthesis up time.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5828430/

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Just do your workout right before your feeding window begins. You’ll be at the peak of the adrenaline/norepinephrine boost and have better performance + you get to chow down and build muscle right afterward. Have protein in every meal during your window.

BTW, I’m referring to 16/8 or 18/6 IF, which is what most sensible people do. I’d assume some shit like a 2-3 hour feeding window in the context of caloric restriction would make it very hard to absorb enough protein.

ALMOST perfect... too bad that bulge doesn't seem to have a surprise. :^(

SNIFF

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goddamn
when girls aren't toned but their fat goes to the right places

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> throwing gains in the trash

I'm glad people are finally realizing this about full on fasting.

HOLY FUCK I WANNA SERVE YOU MY QUEEN

Keto is low protein. Even some vegans end up getting more protein than most keto people.

Fasting longer than 28 hours will cause your body to convert muscle protein into amino acids to maintain blood sugar levels. Same is happening when you do keto.

IF is maybe fine.

CICO with lifting weights will spare the most muscles. Insulin is anabolic so you want to avoid anything that crashes insulin levels.

HGH isn't anabolic so even through it increased during fasting that leads to nothing.

>Still believing in the anabolic window in 2019

Don't listen to this retard OP, you can absorve protein within 24 hours of training, feel free to do OMAD even. Full on fasting is still retarded unless your really wanna be a skinny boi.

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I'm at about 100+ grams of protein a day (aim for 120-130 usually) but still in ketosis.

The legitimately best, scientifically supported, least shilled, and rarely tested dietary schedule is the following:

4 days keto
> lift heavy, alternate push/pull days
> eating 1000+ calories above maintenance
> no restrictions on feeding window.
3 days fasted
> do stretching
> do light cardio
> no calories
> just water

based and truth pilled

fao.org/3/a-m3022e.html
>The quantitative effect on protein utilization of an isoenergetic exchange of dietary fat for carbohydrate was studied in 10 healthy young men. Milk protein (0.57 g/kg body weight per day, a safe level of protein intake as recommended by FAO/WHO) was given for two 21-day experimental periods with two ratios of carbohydrate to fat calories: diet A, a ratio supplying an equal proportion of energy from carbohydrate and from fat, generally representative of the usual Western diet, and diet B, a ratio supplying twice as much energy from carbohydrate as from fat, chosen in view of recommendations to reduce the amount of fat in the diet. Total calorie intake for each subject was constant over the two experimental periods. During each period, five subjects showed a consistent gain and five a loss of body weight. Urinary creatinine excretion was essentially unchanged. Nitrogen (N) balance and dietary protein utilization were significantly (P < 0.05) improved on diet B. The protein-sparing effect was greatest in those subjects who were on marginal energy and protein intakes and who were losing weight.

if you're not eating carbs you're cucking yourself out of gains

>why are there no more "high test" / "test boost" threads?
Jannies probably delete them to make room for more "why even lift" threads.

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Extended fasting
youtube.com/watch?v=HTYv3FcEcus
Obviously it depends how lean you are, if you're just cutting that last digits OMAD is ideal
Do not do keto unless you want to go bald, people are not meant to be in ketosis 24/7
m.youtube.com/watch?v=O-HQoa0tmLA

Why does every diet need to be something "special"?
Eat oats in the morning, cook chicken salad or anything involving meat/vegetables really, have one musli bar as a snack, and make toast/sandwich for dinner or something. Ive been doing this for a month without looking any diet up and Im losing weight while gaining muscle without problems

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Fasting longer than 28 hours will cause your body to convert muscle protein into amino acids to maintain blood sugar levels. Same is happening when you do keto.
Have you heard of fatty acids?

IF is amazing. Just do IF with low somewhat low carbs. I suspect doing IF often just makes the stomach smaller, so you overall end up eating smaller portions, and you end up saving your meals for more healthful foods.

that's insane. If you're on IF, you do your workout 2 hours after your breakfast, then eat dinner an hour later (if you're on a 4 hour feeding window). After 20 hours with no food, my lifts go down by like 20%. Even running is hard.

whats the source

>Full-fledged fasting = just throwing gains in the trash
yeah... source or gtfo

>Fasting longer than 28 hours will cause your body to convert muscle protein into amino acids to maintain blood sugar levels. Same is happening when you do keto.
>Same is happening when you do keto.
If you're already fat, is this a problem too?

>lack of calories and amino acids is anabolic
lmao

the reason why protein intake is lower on keto isn't only to avoid being kicked out of ketosis. you actually require less protein since being in ketosis is muscle-sparing and you become more efficient at synthesizing muscle protein. desu, keto is pretty shit for bulking and gaining muscle simply because you don't have enough energy to push higher numbers in the gym. for maintaining, fat loss, and overall health it's god-tier

when you're actually in ketosis you will start to create glycerol from fat and your blood sugar levels will normalize

Protein heavy caloric restriction
Don't fall for the keto joke. It's like caloric restriction but just plain harder. You don't have as much fiber to keep you full and fats have a much higher caloric density than carbs/proteins (9/g compared to 4/g).
Intermittent fasting is decent but instead, why don't you just have an apple or an egg for breakfast to get you full for minimal calories. It saves you a lot of effort.

>You don't have as much fiber to keep you full
You should be getting plenty of fiber if you do keto properly

>fats have a much higher caloric density than carbs/proteins
> fats have a much higher caloric density than carbs/proteins
Nice argument, bro

The biggest benefit to keto is the reduction in hunger and cravings. You'd be surpised at how much easier it is to avoid falling off your diet when your blood sugar levels remain stable all day

That's why all the jews at Auschwitz were fuarkin shredded

literally no keto diet has ever been shown to preserve protein balance better than any other diet when protein intake is equated
in fact almost every single time keto diets are shown to be inferior.

Why the fuck can't people modulate their diets properly. Fucking keto only works due to the calorie reduction

Of course. You're a noob. Everything is going to work for you.

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