Eat me*t

How many times before it gets through to that atrophied vegan brain of yours that the problem is EXCESSIVE consumption of processed meat products which is the problem - not the eating of meat in and of itself. Meat can be enjoyed as PART of a well balanced diet with negligible effect on long term health.

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>(((sources)))
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
veg-x can't even outlive general population, even gets more heart disease than general population.

youtu.be/RLk5AAKRem8
youtu.be/fHcz00tdMSg

>be me
>eat green veggies with every meal
>have red meat twice a week
> have lean meat 3 times a week
>eat fish 2 times a week
>IF
Every time I forgo to the doctor I hear a joke about how low my blood pressure is and that they don’t want to pick me up.

No, what causes calcified veins is cholesterol being used to patch the lesions in your arteries which are created by sugar in the blood, which is corrosive. You can solve this problem one of two ways - you can either remove cholesterol from the diet, which is an essential component your body needs to optimize your health, or you can remove most carbs and sugar, which are non-essential.

Carb phobia is retarded

>trusting in science when the bible says that "the fatty part of the animal" is worthy and plants/fruits are worthless

nice daily shill thread, satanbot

Keep eating your shit plant prey diet

Things that eat plants

>Cows
>Rabbits
>Deer
>All beta animals

Meat?
>Lions
>Wolves
>Tigers
>Bears
>Basically all alpha animals

You're a beta faggot if you don't eat meat

/thread

Yup because vegans don't get heart attacks

Ohhhhh wait

But wouldn't that make the alpha animals beta since they eat the beta animals, and not the alpha animals?

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Not often enough, they don't.

t. meat industry

>be told your diet is bad time and time again by science, doctors and countless peer-reviewed, double blind, randomized crossover trials

Problem is the people who tell us that, look like this....

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(((They))) are doing their best ladm8.

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>I put all these meme words together to make it look legitimate

Anyway, nutrition is mostly pseudoscience. So, science in its purest is repeatable, isolatable, and observable. Nutrition is none of those, and is more or less applied observation I.e., inductive. This isn’t exactly wrong, but it has very important limitations namely strength of patterns being observed. For example, the smoking trials had massive correlation; thousands of percent more likely. It was also consistent across different occupations, environments, lifestyles, etc. In contrast, “red meat causes cancer” is extremely small correlation and uses very limited data. Most nutritional studies are of this sort of quality.

>why do doctors recommend any diets?
Good doctors use common sense recommendations to diet; eat a varied diet in overall moderation. Snake oil peddlers will recommend excluding anything as a rule. Old popular medical thought takes time to filter out, and generally doctors aren’t nutritionists.

>be God
>chad brother gives you fatty lamb meat
>shitty onions brother gives you fruits and veggies
>disregard onions boy
>Cain kills Abel in a fit of hormonally unbalanced rage

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>disregard onions boy

hearty kek

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isn't is odd that a lions will live maybe 12 years max in the wild whereas a zebra can live up to 30-40 years in the wild? Really makes you do the big think. Even in captivity most vegetarian mammals absolutely mogg any carnivores lifespan,

Isn’t it odd that hamsters live for a handful of years and tortoises live for a century despite the fact that they’re both vegetarians?

Maybe species age at different rates or something

I wish my dog lived longer.

F

Counterpoint

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Name a top vegan athlete that won a major tournament

People need to be informed about this

For those that don't want to read the studies, 4 minutes explaining why veganism is a death diet:

youtube.com/watch?v=zGbRvhfkVNc

youtube.com/watch?v=O_h5L-kEWu8

youtube.com/watch?v=ZFpjsNJJeiY

Sources:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5028238/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15514417
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/431794
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9499332
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8071280
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2550009/pdf/bmj00598-0020.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2351965/pdf/bmj00559-0017.pdf
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5214201/Vegan-chef-shot-dead-two-ex-wife-Christmas.html
chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/2010/01/28/when-brain-is-hungry-for-cholestero/
youtube.com/watch?v=PIPUxJ3BC5s
healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/6/1545/4729534
fasebj.org/doi/full/10.1096/fj.08-121962
thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth/
empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods/
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary/
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga/
philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth/

About cholesterol and saturated fat:

youtube.com/watch?v=4uGravo_p_w
youtube.com/watch?v=TamyKMlce_o
patreon.com/posts/does-ldl-cause-23236669
youtube.com/watch?v=u6tjdmBrh28
patreon.com/posts/cholesterol-fat-20447705

Do not trust a vegan, they won't hesitate to lie to you

youtube.com/watch?v=-e0qZAuPF2s
youtube.com/watch?v=WpzE8S3_7-M

More reasons:

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
researchnews.osu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Onions decreases your testosterone
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:
youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8

Eating meat increases testosterone
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html
youtube.com/watch?v=1y__4xX8xp8

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
archive.is/HD6UZ
youtube.com/watch?v=yRELldIuZyM
sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Post body and lifts im genuinely curious

Veganism is a starvation cult, nothing more:

youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
youtube.com/watch?v=4rieOahGXUU

time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html
livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
thefreelibrary.com/Meat in the human diet: an anthropological perspective-a0169311689
People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an
extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was "approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively." This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate)
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html?zx=dfdf09fc6fc82ae9

VEGANISM IS A LIE.

What do vehicles with petroleum-burning engines, and anything electric have in common? They're all powered by FOSSIL FUELS, which come from dead animals. Vegans aren't allowed to own or use ANYTHING that came from an animal -- therefore any so-called 'vegan' that drives a vehicle or uses anything electric is CHEATING and is NOT VEGAN. They may as well stop kidding themselves and go eat a steak, they all FAIL.

So-called 'vegans' also suffer from progressive cognitive deficit due to chronic amino acid deficiencies from malnutrition. That's why vegancucks don't make sense, their brains don't work correctly anymore. People I've known who were vegan then gave it up and went back to eating animal products regularly showed positive changes in their personalities and started being able to think more clearly again.

Vegans brains are so addled that they think you can raise an INFANT as vegan and expect it to be healthy and develop properly -- which it will NOT. Any pediatrician will tell you that you should not feed a baby a strict vegetarian diet, it will sicken, fail to develop, fail to thrive, and ultimately DIE. Pediatricians who encounter parents who insist, against all professional medical advice, in feeding their infant a Vegan diet, are reported to the police and to Child Protective Services, because it is legally considered CHILD ABUSE. What does THAT tell you?

Face it, vegancucks: humans are OMNIVORES, even many vegans admit it, and your meme 'lifestyle' is anti-health, anti-HUMAN, and exists as a political statement more than anything else, erroneously placing dumb lower animals above humans, which is shoe-on-head stupid.

More evidence that Veganism is a LIE and actually hurts humans in the long run:
Veganism DESTROYS the fitness of pro athletes
blog.bulletproof.com/carl-lewis-vegan/

If the U.S. went 100% vegan, it would be a PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER:
pnas.org/content/early/2017/11/07/1707322114

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I'm a semi-pro road racer on a road racing team. I was District Champion in 2012, 2013, 2015, and 2016 (no not saying where) for my age group.
You Jow Forums vegan pieces of shit talked me into your so-called 'vegan' (strict vegetarian, really) 'diet'.
For the first 3 months or so, I was fine, even felt a little healthier than normal. Who knows if that was for real or just placebo effect.
Shortly after that everything started going to shit. I started falling apart during Threshold rides. My FTP tested out lower instead of improving, despite training. My sprint power disappeared. I started getting mentally foggy and it progressively got worse. My digestion went from predictable and normal to what doctors called 'irritable bowel syndrome'. My sleep suffered. I put up with this bullshit for about another 6 or 7 weeks before calling it quits, I was coming completely unglued physically and mentally and wondered if I was dying. I went back to eating meat and dairy products, and in about 3 weeks started feeling normal again. This was all last year, and it took me a couple months to feel completely back to normal, training productively again, and placing well on race day. That's why I wasn't District Champion last year, because this shitty 'vegan' bullshit totally sabotaged me.

You vegan faggots can go fuck yourselves, and shove your bullshit 'moral choice' and bullshit 'diet' up your asses, it damned near killed me, and killed an entire race season for me. Somebody ought to lock you people up so you don't convince anyone else to hurt themselves.

Spotted the ꜱoyboy

Will I have atherosclerosis if I eat meat daily but I also workout daily? Surely clogged arteries is the thing of people who dont even walk 0.1 miles a day.

I wonder how much of this is samefagging.

Here are some basics on vegetarian lifters:

psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Colonic bacteria combining may cause colon cancer not eating meat
nytimes.com/2018/02/01/health/colon-cancer-bacteria.html

The first 10 of those posts are (Me), I'm spreading the truth about the Vegan menace so none of my Jow Forums bros get fooled into sabotaging themselves.
if you're the faggot OP posting this bullshit vegan bait: eat shit and die and GTFO, go back to or or r e d d i t or wherever the fuck it is you trash come from and stop posting this stupid fucking cancer on Jow Forums.

Why you should never be vegan:
People need to be informed about this
For those that don't want to read the studies, 4 minutes explaining why veganism is a death diet:
youtube.com/watch?v=zGbRvhfkVNc
youtube.com/watch?v=O_h5L-kEWu8
youtube.com/watch?v=ZFpjsNJJeiY
Sources:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5028238/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15514417
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/431794
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9499332
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8071280
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2550009/pdf/bmj00598-0020.pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2351965/pdf/bmj00559-0017.pdf
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5214201/Vegan-chef-shot-dead-two-ex-wife-Christmas.html
chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/2010/01/28/when-brain-is-hungry-for-cholestero/
youtube.com/watch?v=PIPUxJ3BC5s
healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/6/1545/4729534
fasebj.org/doi/full/10.1096/fj.08-121962
thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth/
empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods/
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary/
westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga/
philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth/
About cholesterol and saturated fat:
youtube.com/watch?v=4uGravo_p_w
youtube.com/watch?v=TamyKMlce_o
patreon.com/posts/does-ldl-cause-23236669
youtube.com/watch?v=u6tjdmBrh28
patreon.com/posts/cholesterol-fat-20447705
Do not trust a vegan, they won't hesitate to lie to you
youtube.com/watch?v=-e0qZAuPF2s
youtube.com/watch?v=WpzE8S3_7-M

(You) are not vegan.
(You) are a shitty refugee troll from (YOU HAVE TO GO BACK).
(You) are probably chowing down on all-meat pizza, or a bacon cheeseburger, or Hot Pockets, or chicken tendies (if mom will make them for you) while you were posting this drivel.
(You) are wasting our valuable time with this shitty attempt at 'trolling' you keep trotting out.
(You) are, as usual, a gigantic faggot, and someone should rape your face.
(You) should, for your crime of Cancerousness, become An Hero, so no one has to see your ugly-ass face ever again.
(You) have failed. Leave. Now.

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>Will I have atherosclerosis if I eat meat daily but I also workout daily? Surely clogged arteries is the thing of people who dont even walk 0.1 miles a day.
I'm 54 years old, 6'4" tall, 200 pounds, ~10% bodyfat. Huge muscular legs from strength training in the off-season, endurance is high all the time.
Race bikes, am on a local race team for 10 years now. Ride 10-15 hours a week typically.
LDLs and triglycerides are low, HDLs are high, total cholesterol is in a Normal range.
Blood pressure is 120-130 over 60-70 all the time.
Doctors are always very happy and clap me on the back and congratulate me when they see my bloodwork because there's nothing for them to correct.
I EAT MEAT AND DAIRY EVERY SINGLE DAY AND HAVE MY ENTIRE LIFE.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE VEGETARIAN TO BE HEALTHY AND STRONG.
So-called """veganism""" is BULLSHIT, it's intended to cull the human race down to the point we're irrelevant so the animals can take over the Earth. Vegans don't give a shit whether we all live or die or not let alone whether we're healthy and strong, they just want their agenda to move forward.

OP likely isn't even vegan, probably doesn't even really know what 'veganism' actually entails, he is just trolling/baiting you all because fucking up your health and gains makes him giggle like an idiot. Don't fall for it, lads.
SAGE and REPORT vegan threads.

Literally no one EVER opens any link you post EVER. I hope you realize that

the thread itself is literally botposting, so any form of samefagging is still more human/organic than OP.
if you haven't caught up to the fact that a significant portion of 4chans traffic is automated social engineering botposting that pushes veganism, atheism, abortion, homosexuality and every other sin, then you are fucking lost.

stay mad

>sin
Fuck off back to godfag. Your kind are even worse than the veganfags.

No

Yes, yes you are, because you come in here to post your trolling, baiting bullshit about veganism, because stirring shit up and making people argue is the only thing that makes you feel relevant, and here I come blowing your shit to Kingdom Come with actual facts and actual truth. You're mad every single time because your shit can't stand in the face of all the facts and relevant data I post.

GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARD AND STAY THERE:

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Why am I responding to a bot? I'm not even vegan. Go away you bot

THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN IN THIS THREAD AT ALL YOU STUPID FUCKING NPC!?

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Veganfags BTFO
How will they ever recover?
>LOL they won't
RIP in peace veganism/veganfags
>and nothing of value was lost

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>vegans have less gains
The study isnt opening up so can you explain this one?
What kind of study, what was the method and how many people are involved.

>he wants to be spoonfed

tough shit if there's a paywall, go give them your shekels or STFU and read the other couple hundred links I posted, faggot.

6'4 and 200 pounds. You are small as fuck.

80% of people die of heart disease. Normal range of cholesterol will kill you. You might feel fine now, but in 20 years you will die like most meat eaters with a heart attack.

health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-right-plant-based-diet-for-you
Anyway, its not to late user. You can start to remove all the unhealthy meat and dairy and replace it with healthy plants. You don't even need to be fully vegan.

>You are small as fuck.
"""cyclist""". 250 pound guys get dropped immediately on climbs you brainlet.
>the rest of your """comment"""
Likewise bullshit. Go back to faggot.

>he thinks everyone should listen to random faggots on Jow Forums instead of actual IRL doctors
Dum-dum, every doctor I go to is *thrilled* with how healthy I am and *none* of them ever bring up any of this vegetarian bullshit. Seriously go back to and fap to your tranny porn or something, your bait is old and busted and a thread died for this shit.

Novak Djokovic

academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/70/6/1032/4729141
A study of 19 men. The main difference seems to be that the vegetarian group ate less protein. They went from having 100 grams of protein to 71 grams of protein. Doesn't even mention vegans in the study.

Its a shitty study where one group is not getting enough protein and another is getting a ton of protein. They could have at least made it so the LVO group is getting the same amount of protein as the mixed group.

Mate your 200 pounds and 10% bf. Your like 25 lbs below your genetic limit for muscles mass.

I do, with great pleasure. I guess that makes you- just another vegan liar.

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>Novak Jokabitch.

He may be a lot of things, but he is 100% NOT VEGAN.

Like Nate Diaz, Jokevitch himself doesn't even lie about it. Jokevitch openly declares that he eats fish and chicken, every single day.

The "Jokevitch vegan" meme is just another 100% pure vegan lie. Note: it is not the athlete himself lying, but the vegan propagandists such as yourself.

joe.ie/fitness-health/nocak-djokovic-gives-the-low-down-on-the-diet-that-made-him-world-number-one-366598

>So what exactly is the diet all about? In simple terms, it looks to keep both gluten and dairy products out of his diet, and cutting out sugar wherever possible. He eats mainly vegetables, beans, white meat, fish, fruit, nuts, seeds, chickpeas, lentils and healthy oils, and also cuts out inappropriate sources of protein and carbohydrates. It shoul

>White meat, fish....

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>youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
>youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
>youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
>youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
>youtube.com/watch?v=4rieOahGXUU

Vegans literally have no answer to this. After this illuminating series, "vegans the epitome of malnourishment" every sane person now knows that Veganism is a starvation/self harm cult.

(Plus the bonus video that makes Veganism even sillier.)

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So vegans ... Starve themselves, on purpose?

Unusual.

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have sex

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>>be told your diet is bad time and time again by science, doctors and countless peer-reviewed, double blind, randomized crossover trials
>>Nah bro it's just the """"""jews""""""" lying to you, eat red meat every meal bro high LDL cholesterol and clogged arteries are healthy bro

lol fucking this. carnitards are the dumbest people on earth. even the human-thumb, shawn baker thinks you need to eat meat to become sentient. he believes people who refuse to eat meat (vegetarians and vegans) cease to be sentient.

most of those links are bullshit. theres more vitamin A in one carrot than a huge piece of steak.

Everything in this world will kill you besides Heart disease, CAD, and PAD will neither become apparent in a normal individual until your late 60's unless you also have other more detrimental life habits such as chronic alcoholism, smoking or drug use. Having red meat for every meal of every week is not healthy. But have red meat for one meal maybe 2/3's of a week is totally within healthy means. How the meat is prepared is also very dependent on how healthy that meal will be. Grilled or baked chicken breast for dinner every night? More than fine. Fried Chicken for every dinner? Definitely not fine. Humans are also need exercise. If you're not devoting at least 1 hour a day to intense cardiovascular or strength training regimens then you're just asking for shitty health, mobility and balance in your geriatric years.

Perhaps everything in this world is about moderation?

If I live 60-70 years and look good, I'll take it over 90-100 years of eating vegan and looking and feeling weak. Longevity of life isn't my goal, a good life is

Cardiovascular disease is the #1 killer among vegans too. If meat was the cause this wouldn't be the case.

>200lbs
>cyclist
faggot larper, most cyclists tend to be 150lbs +- 10%. look at the tour the france cyclists and check their weights. literally no1 over 73kg (161lbs)

Sup sickly ass vegan?

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There is no indication whatsoever that vegans will live into their 90s. You may be confused by the fact that 90% of vegans quit the starvation diet when they figure out it's ruining their health.

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Weird comment from a 70 pound vegan living corpse...

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
Vegans have lower CHD in general.

wow, you ate parts like liver that every other predator prefer because they're the most nutrient rich parts, im amazed

>United
>Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable >nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality.

So the study you quote, about vegetarians (not vegans) then you make a statement about vegans?

Your comment is not entirely clear, are you commenting on how vegetarians have no advantage as far as lifespan over non-vegetarians as the study you quoted found??

>Vegans

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>you can either remove cholesterol from the diet, which is an essential component your body needs to optimize your health
In fact, it's so essential to your health that your body makes all the cholesterol you need without requiring you to consume any.

retinol = beta caroten
this is vegan logic

he did it for a few months then quit, because he said it was destroying his body. fuck you vegans and your fake propaganda.

it doesnt though, it makes the bare minimum for you to survive, that's why vegans literally lose 1% brain mass per year

>Reads a study that shows old people who don't take a B12 supplement have a shrinking brain regardless of diet
>Oh my God it's literally impossible to find B12 in a vegan diet. Supplements and fortified foods literally don't exist
>I'd better tell all the other carnitards that veganism shrinks your brain
You will learn critical thinking in your early twenties.

just like every destruction cult ever to exists they are convinced with moralistic, psychologically active information that what they are doing is a good, creative, praiseworthy thing and that any opposition they might face is the work of evil and ignorance

Protein = amino acids
I can't believe these stupid vegoons don't know that food passes through the body untouched, and chemistry isn't real.

Vegans do exist in a state of bliss.

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>>Vegans the happiest people in the world...

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Take this comment seriously