Okay who do I even trust anymore ?
AthleanX , Candito and Jeff Alberts (3dmj) all support the theory that body recomposition is possible even for advanced lifters.
On the other hand people like Scott Herman say you can't.
Were there any scientific studies on this topic (link) ?
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>body recomposition is possible
Yes, bulking is a fucking meme, you don't need to get fat to get big.
i believe in it.
my first few serious months saw very little change in weight, but i grew noticeably thinner and leaner with more muscle
maybe this is just a beginner thing, but maybe it isn't
they're all on drugs lmao their opinion doesn't matter
Two words:
Nitrogen balance
>Yes, bulking is a fucking meme, you don't need to get fat to get big.
A meme promoted by processed food corps. Their garbage cookies, bars, and powders just fatten people up. They had to spread the idea that its working as intended.
Jeff definitely isn't on drugs, can't speak about the other ones because I dont really watch them, but I would go as far as to stay Candito isn't on drugs either given how autistic he is about his diet/programming.
But Jeff is 100% natty. MAYBE he's on TRT, but I doubt it given how much time he spends on his diet/working out, he'd be a lot bigger/stronger if he was on TRT.
But you also how to keep in mind, Jeff is like 40+ and has been lifting weights/doing sports/working out since his adolescence
Jeff Cavalier athlean x dot com is obviously on TRT. He even had a video where he skirts the issue and doesn't deny being on TRT but says you don't need roids to get his physique.
I like Jeff and highly respect his advice on form and joint health, but he's not natty.
Scott Hermann is the most credible natural lifter on YouTube.
Doing TRT doesn't make you not natty you retard, do you even know what TRT is?
TRT is completely natty tho
>TRT
>Not natty
Doing TRT at 40+ years old is basically 100% natty weightlifting.
It's like saying taking vitamins if you're deficient in something isn't natty
>constantly having test levels at the high end of the natty spectrum (WITHOUT the declines you get when you're dieting down / are at a very low bf% as a natural) is natty
Yeah right. You're a bunch on uneducated idiots
TRT isn't a test cycle you moron, it's administered by doctors who just return your test levels to normal/average levels, not "high natty spectrum levels" (which btw is so insignificant that having mid or high natty test levels make little to no difference despite what Jow Forums has memed you into believing)
Doctors cannot give their patients high levels of testosterone because it could fuck their heart up/kill them and they would be liable for a lawsuit and could lose their license to practice medicine.
Stop living in a Jow Forums memeland
>Being this much of a braindead moron
The absolute fucking state of Jow Forums jesus christ
How can you be so arrogant and have no idea about the subject? Do you know how wide the natty range is? Do you think Jeff's doctor gives him just enough test to be at around 400 ng/dl? Keep dreaming.
It's not uncommon for TRT patients to be at 800+ ng/dl.
And it does make a difference. As I said, you avoid all of the natural fluctuations you would have when dieting. You can suck Jeff's cock all you want, but that's just how it is.
That might be a good reason why he can keep his mass despite being at such a low bf% year round.
>his mass
Confirmed DYEL
Jeff isn't even big you retard. He eats a super calculated diet, that's why he's always lean
Ok cocksucker, post a pic of your body and show us how you're bigger than him.
>injecting exogenous testosterone
>natty
Pick one.
>his mass
Jeff Cavalier athlean x dot com isn't big and has been lifting and doing sports for like 30 years and calculates his macros like an autist.
If you honestly believe this is not attainable natty you are a moron
>Returning your testosterone to healthy, natural levels
>Not natty
Pick one.
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Getting shredded crashes your natural T levels. Could Athlean X get to his size and leanness naturally? Yes, but he probably couldn’t maintain it year-round and would feel like shit.
Was jeff on epsteins pedo island too?
Body recomp doesn't exist, it's a shitty buzzword and Jeff Cavaliere is on TRT at the very least
Slow bulking while minimizing fat gain exists.
You can never prevent fat gain in a caloric surplus though. You can however, not go full retard.
Yes it does make you not natty.
If your body doesn't naturally produce the appropriate amounts of test, injecting exogenous test means you no longer use your natural test to maintain hormone balance aka not natty. I mean wtf lol.
Yeah I am natty all right. 200mg of test plus hcg all doctor prescribed. How much are natty guys producing a day? Oh shit I slept bad last night, guess what still high as shit test levels.
How is injecting exogenous test make you natty? You will never match my test levels, no matter how well you eat, or how well you sleep, because you dont produce the equivalent of 200mg of test a week consistently.
I'm not trying to brag but your post was fucking oozing stupidity.