Fuck the memes

During cut 1500cals with at least 140, generally upwards of 160.
Bulk at least 200

250g a day, 3000 calories, 210 lbs

150-180g, I'm 180lb train 5 days a week

60-80g which is more than enough, but you won't listen and you'll revolve your life around getting 150+ while keeping cals in check, like every retard that does this for 6 months or less and quits

This guy gets it.

0.8g/lb bodyweight

what the fuck did you eat
an entire horse?

what if im overweight at 89kg and my ideal weight is 78-82

should i calculate my ideal goal weight or my current weight to see how much protein i need in a day?

It's really not that hard to get 150g+ of protein in a day if you aren't poor. It has been shown in studies that .82g/lb is where you stop seeings additional benefits. So 60-80g of protein isn't enough, post body.

Dyel

About 200g a day at 165lb. I'm trying to gain weight though. I could easily cut it back 35g or so and fill calories with carbs instead, I just like meat.

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Idc about the difficulty of it. It's just unnecessary. Ive been doing this a long time and know many people that have and we don't shrink because we aren't eating 150+g protein. Im not here to speak on absorption and all that nonsense, all I know is that it doesn't really matter in the end. Your gym intensity, consistent, and progression with the iron will get you there. Take my advice or don't, I don't really care.

What does this mean? That 1.6g/kg is ideal?

I hope your right user. Going to be getting about 72g per day for awhile because of food budget issues. So i guess i'll see for myself.

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it might not be hard but is it necessary

Studies have literally shown that it is necessary

then how come these studies always give a huge ballpark like "yeah get between 80 and 180 grams of protein"

Most studies have shown getting more protein doesnt hurt. It just has diminishing returns at a certain point. So why not just get as much as you can?

Ever tried not being poor

400 grams chicken breast
750mL fairlife skim milk
1 premier protein shake
6 hampton house chicken strips
In addition to rice and other shit
Totalled 3250ish calories

>So why not just get as much as you can?

BECAUSE IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPENDING 10 BUCKS A DAY ON CHICKEN AND 20 BUCKS

At least 100g usually around 120g, at least 1.5g/kg of lean body mass.

do your parents know you spend 50 dollars a day on food?

150-190. My farts smell terrible

about 120 if not less.
I dont look for protein
I just eat a protein sourse with every meal.

this is what i'm leaning towards as well

Yes that's exactly what it means. Muscle growth plateaus past 1.6g/kg. Here's the meta-analysis I got the chart from:
>bjsm.bmj.com/content/52/6/376

You will be fine and notice no change at all.

Studies show any good damn thing they want and we can come up with dozens of BS ones just in the fitness community. The protein powder industry is multi billions because kids like you believe the nonsense that the rest of us laughed at in the magazines 15 years ago. Look, you want 150+g/day then go for it, but you don't need it, your physique will not change for the worse, literally nothing will change.

Get 60-80, keep cals in check, lift like a demon with consistency, and you'll be fine. If you lift long enough you'll find that im right about this because your ridiculous diet will fade as your motivation comes back down to earth over the years and you will find what works, not what's said to work or what is supposed to.

You retard. He said a gram per LBM (Lean Body Mass)
Obviously you don't use your actual weight when you're a fat fuck.

based

>farts from eating to much protein
Can we talk about this? The only time i've ever farted a lot was when I took protein powder. When I eat meat to get the same amount of protein I don't fart, period. I'm starting to think protein powder are shit because we should not be having digestive issues like farting a lot when eating a lot of protein.

About 200 g of TOTAL protein in 2700 kcal.
450 g of chicken breasts, 6 eggs and 200 ml of milk. The rest of the protein comes from rice/oats/PB.

180-200g

.82g/lb is where diminishing returns start so do that

im exactly the same

100 grams of protein minimum

We should have a thread where we post protein intake and body. I never realized Jow Forums was dumb rich and could afford 200g of protein a day. 400g of chicken breast in Toronto is about 10 bucks, where do you guys live and how much does it cost to eat?

how the fuck do i figure out what my lbm is
all i know is i'm 180cm and 89kg

3.5euro for 1kg chicken breast in the balkans lel

i think anyone who says 150gr or more a day are shitposting

.82g/lb is where diminishing returns start so do that

Right.... who the fuck actually falls for that shit and eats that'd much protein.
New guys, that's who.

Literally every bodybuilder, fitness personality, jacked guy at your local gym will tell you ~1g/lb of bodyweight but you would rather trust the dyels of this board to validate your shitty diet despite the fact that not a single one of them would ever post body or even a study

Pic related.
Post body and let us guess your bodyweight for step 1.

Fuck forgot pic

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Nope, I’m a skelly and I sometimes go over 350

Shit I meant lb per kg

How do you afford it though? Do you just live in bumfuck nowhere? I’m not even trolling, I just want to know how to make this possible. Shit is expensive in Canada and I can’t afford blowing 600 dollars a month on food.

It's called Whey my guy

If all else fails, stick to low cost protein such as low-fat curd and/or buy cheap protein powder.

a pound of chicken is 2-3 dollars here in texas, cheaper than beef

Eggs, kefir, cottage cheese (this is probably the cheapest protein per $) ground Turkey, ground beef, fish and one scoop at night with my smoothies. Its really not that expensive if you don't eat out and kinda plan ahead. It took me like 2 weeks to get pretty consistent with hitting macros without thinking about it

How many scoops do you have a day (rip rich)?
I’ll look into this, thanks m8

i already know my body fat percentage is between 25 and 30%

dont have a body pic unfortunately

I don't think you need that much, but my strategy is to use 3lbs of 90/10 beef every week and make a massive pot of chili to go to at night to fill the gaps. Pretty cheap and will feed you extra protons for days

I'm trying to cut with about 1650kcal and 144g Protein. I average around 1750kcal and 128g of Protein. I'm still adjusting.

>1650kcal
That seems low as fuck. What's your weight and bf?

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myfitnesspal tells me to eat 1850kcal a day

>myfitnesspal tells me to eat 1850kcal a day
Bruh.

>plagueofstrength.com/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>suppversity.blogspot.de/2016/10/latest-study-shows-that-33-gkg-high.html
>ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127
>news.gsu.edu/2018/09/10/researchers-identify-molecule-with-anti-aging-effects-on-vascular-system-study-finds/
>breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

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I try to go for 130g at least. I weigh around 70kg

i consistently eat less than that and i STILL gain weight...i do have the occasionaly 2-3 cheat days a week where i stuff my fucking face with mcdonalds

shit's fucked

>surveyjunkie.com/

isn't that way too much? you're on almost 2grams of protein per kg

Oh come on, I live in ontario where food is really fucking expensive and its not even close to 50
>400g chicken
$5
>750ml milk
$2.50
>Shake
$1.50, this is less usually due to powder rather than premade
>6 strips
$4
>Other shit
$3
>Total
$16
Its a bit expensive but reasonable for such a lean diet, I'm going to go ground beef when I run out of chicken

Stop giving a shit about weight, if anything care about body fat percentage and consistency in training and dieting.

These are fucking basics dude.

nice

Dunno, haven't had any negative side effects as of now. My lifts are going up way more than when I only looked after my daily cals, so I'm sticking with it

MUH WEIGHT is literally roastie and faggot speak. The mirror and how your clothes fit tell you what to need to know about your cutting progress.

Uhm, I'm 185cm, 85kg, supposedly 24% bf. All those calculators get me confused. TDEE calculator says 1780kcal bmr and 2400kcal when active.

I'm retarded at counting my calories, so I kept adjusting my maximum intake lower and lower. So I'm probably eating more, but I'm finally loosing weight.

disregard what those calculator say your "active" rate is. Just go with the BMR. They always overestimate how much calories you burn for the activity levels in my opinion.

Thanks. Just wasn't sure about the units on the x axis

140g

>500 dollars a month on food
Dude that’s obscene, how much do you make per month? Parents?

That's way too many cheat days. 3 is nearly half the week. 1 or 2 is the most you should do only to keep your metabolism in check and make sure you keep losing weight

ya but dont u balkan niggas make like 700 euros a month?

>NEET detected

thanks bro youre right

is for

will do

I can tell you're american due to the poor mathematics, so thats 350 usd a month. I know I pay a decent amount for food but I can fit it into my budget easily. You should get back to your cattle feed it's getting cold

Yep. Same goes for me, I definitely underestimate my intake, so I keep lowering my goal. 1600ish seems to work. Lost 1lb each week, the last two weeks.

I would say around 120g, I weigh 193lbs and am halfway to 2/3/5, I already have a 4 plate squat, clearly 120 is enough

Redpilled

why would you even enter a restaurant where each menu item exceeds your tdee

160g. Used to get in way more when I actually lifted regularly LOL.

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currently 160-170g at 2000 calories cutting
i eat like 2 big meals and do IF
When I bulk its like 2800 or so calories and at least 200g protein

im 189cm 84kg

Post body

I get about 250 a day at 6'2 217